thesetat2013 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Nobody seems to point out that with the level of corruption in Thailand it is feasable the CIA had a torture camp here without the Gov knowing. The CIA has a lot of money to pay for bribes and that is all it would have taken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "Thailand remain safe for traveling, Gen Worapang asserted" unless you go to koh tao And as long as - You do not take a minivan with a drunk driver - A bus with a driver high on yaba - Stay as far as possible from crazy trucks drivers that can't control their vehicules - Stay away from the snakes - Do not encounter any RTP - Don't get mugged by a BG or a LB - Do not make anyone lose face *non-exhaustive list* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Who to believe, both institutions notorious for lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 It's like Ares 51 still a mystery even today I thought it was a New York nightclub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJcm Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I bet it's not far from a McDonalds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heionus heretic Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I bet it's not far from a McDonalds by the way its going, suppose you could also get a pizzahut edging it way in here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennnis Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. CIA, ISIS. Basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 it was the "work" of that horrible elected PM! For the moment there is no "elected" PM, so it confuses me to who you are referring . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Nobody seems to point out that with the level of corruption in Thailand it is feasable the CIA had a torture camp here without the Gov knowing. The CIA has a lot of money to pay for bribes and that is all it would have taken And you know this how, exactly? How can you possibly believe it feasible the US government had 'no knowledge'? If you have evidence or no to the contrary, you should shut your ignorant stupid yap. I'm guessing you were a homicidal Bush supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 of all things who would have expected denial? Not me, shocked and stunned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think this part of the headline sums it up Thai military have no clues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. CIA, ISIS. Basically the same thing. wow, that's a bit harsh. I'm no lover of American politics etc but I'm not aware of the CIA kidnapping children to rape and auction off as sex slaves, nor behead kidnapped journalists and post onto youtube 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNo4 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If enemies of the western allies carried this kinda stuff out it would be widely condemned and i'm sure considered a war crime. I find it quite frightening and horrific that our side carried on this practice. Don't POWs have rights...just curious is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCARLETIBIS1 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Right, and the reason Obama came to Thailand this year was to eat some Pad Thai and get a Happy Ending Massage and then fly back home to America. But what happened to the black bag he was seen carrying off the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If enemies of the western allies carried this kinda stuff out it would be widely condemned and i'm sure considered a war crime. I find it quite frightening and horrific that our side carried on this practice. Don't POWs have rights...just curious is all. Of course, POW do have rights. Geneva Convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) If enemies of the western allies carried this kinda stuff out it would be widely condemned and i'm sure considered a war crime. I find it quite frightening and horrific that our side carried on this practice. Don't POWs have rights...just curious is all. I vaguely remember, but vaguely only, that some smart lawyers managed to avoid the prisoners getting declared POW as that would guarantee them too many rights according to the Geneva Convention. Edited December 11, 2014 by rubl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. The CIA tortured and abused people here but that's ok because they did it for their righteous cause. Whereas ISIS do what they do because they see their cause as a righteous one and that's not ok. Both use violence to achieve their goals. Both are wrong to do so. I don't care what the cause is, torture and violent treatment of prisoners is wrong. Also pointless. You torture someone then they will say whatever you want to hear to make you stop. Much of the CIA intelligence gained through this use of torture was apparently useless. There's a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. Since those are actually exactly the two options which we face, that's a very wise and perceptive post. No they are not two options. They are the same option used by two sides. Other options exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The CIA have Toyota vans running around Thailand full of surveillance gear so would not be surprised if they also have secret prisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Anyone notice that the water has been tasting funny lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaamBaht Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yes you did. No we didn't. Yes you did. No we didn't Look, this isn't an argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. Since those are actually exactly the two options which we face, that's a very wise and perceptive post. It isn't an either/or. You guys need to do some digging on the origins of ISIS and the involvement of US intelligence agencies in helping to create a new Frankenstein to replace an Al Qaeda palpably past its sell-by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yes you did. No we didn't. Yes you did. No we didn't Look, this isn't an argument. 'Yes it is' got to love old MP stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank James Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. Since those are actually exactly the two options which we face, that's a very wise and perceptive post. Maybe The Company can have you two patriots down there to show you how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank James Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If enemies of the western allies carried this kinda stuff out it would be widely condemned and i'm sure considered a war crime. I find it quite frightening and horrific that our side carried on this practice. Don't POWs have rights...just curious is all. Of course, POW do have rights. Geneva Convention. They are never referred to as "POW" or "prisoners." They are "detainees." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerlou47 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think his pants are on fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Torture is a barbaric way to aquire intelligence about terrorism plots or whereabouts of terror suspects. The C.I.A should be ashamed of using Thailand to hold terror suspects to try to stop the deaths of the innocent. I'm disgusted in this just as much as China is. Torture should be banished for good. No more secret prison and bring back a slap on the wrist and a stiff warning, plus no tv for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. Since those are actually exactly the two options which we face, that's a very wise and perceptive post. No they are not two options. They are the same option used by two sides. Other options exist.I was being sarcastic. As far as I know, there is only a low to medium risk of ISIS riding into downtown Tak and executing apostates. Edited December 11, 2014 by Zooheekock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So what if there is a secret prison. I would rather have the CIA here that ISIS etc. Since those are actually exactly the two options which we face, that's a very wise and perceptive post. Maybe The Company can have you two patriots down there to show you how it works. Not an American. Not a patriot. Not an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 And apart from another Thai minister.....who would believe one word that came out of a Thai Minister's mouth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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