sfm Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Pattaya Beach Road, just after midday today, 12th Dec 2014. When the policeman stopped me outside the police station I found it OK. After all, I had been speaking in my mobile phone while driving. Rules are rules, most countries have similar laws and they make sense. No whining here. So, off the bike, park it, hand over key, fine written - and the police station conveniently placed right across the road. OK! But here the trouble starts. When I got in there a huge number of people were waiting in a cue. The room was simply getting too small. All, just like me standing with their fine in their hand. I wondered "wow, so many offenders?!". The next thing that struck me: every one waiting was a non-Thai, with the exception of 3 girls that were with their foreign boyfriend. Long-nosed do not need to feel discriminated, some Indians were included, and some other nationalities too. I counted the people in the queue and reached 73 foreigners and the 3 girls mentioned. I decided not to wait, but come back later. When I was about to get a motorbike taxi I saw the policeman stopping a western couple. And, interestingly, they did wear helmets, and did not speak in mobile phone either. I thought: "Why did he stop them?", and I decided to wait a little. In the next five minutes I was watching. The policeman routinely stopped all foreign-looking drivers. Those who passed though were because he was busy getting keys etc. from an already stopped person. All of them (all of them wore helmets). And absolutely every one was fined. No Thai driver license, no original papers, no insurance sticker, whatever. But not one single Thai driver was stopped. - - - Now I was a bit in worse mood. This is not right. I went back to the station and the queue and aired my frustration to a policeman. - Why do you only stop foreigners? - No, see, also Thais he said and pointed to the queue, that had grown considerably since the 73 counted earlier. Right he was: there were these 3 Thai girls with their foreign boyfriend! - - - For me not such a big deal. I live here for 20 years. I took a motorbike taxi home, and will go back to the station later and hope the queue is gone. I got the idea of googling for 'thai police targeting foreigners' and ran into articles like this, from the 4th December: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2014/12/04/surge-reported-police-harassment-suggests-campaign-targeting-tourists-expats I wonder if this is really a trend? In any case I am disappointed. Unlike the Thais, foreign visitors will in general not know the rules. How about the renter of the motorbike telling them? Or even demanding that a license is shown, like it works for car rental in most countries? And let it be the renters issue if the motorbike is not equipped with correct papers and stickers? Instead, they send visitors into an hour-long standing in a queue. - - - Let us see what the fine is. 200? 500? 1000? 1500? 2000? Given the context of matters, I have grim expectations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePlant Posted December 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2014 Coppers shaking down tourists in Pattaya is no new thing, especially at this time of year. Tourists are their favourite target as they know little of how things work here, have plenty of ready cash, and will often shell out no questions asked, to be away from the unpleasant and scary experience of being hassled by a cop in an foreign country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post losworld Posted December 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2014 nothing new here. except those dummies who argure you deserve it for breaking the law and that Thais are treated the same lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 welcome to thailand, land of smiles. i assume the police were smiling given the amount of money they were extorting from the guests to their country 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 So, you handed over your key? For what reason? After 20 years you should know better your rights. When they stop me, i pull out the key even before i completely stop. There is no way i give them my key. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackvale Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 They stop foreigners because what percentage of foreigners are eligible for a Thai driving license and/or have bothered to buy the international permit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Agree with all replies although if asked for the key you do give it too them normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Going back later when the queue is shorter could result in the bike being taken away to the compound in the meantime, before you have paid your fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiSanookGuy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Good, no more foreigners in this country soon ! So sad that Russian do not read English language websites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A1Str8 Posted December 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2014 They only stop foreigners because if they stop Thais, they will not get any money. They will either meet Thai men who don't have money(they don't have the balls to stop the wealthy ones, that's asking for trouble) or they will meet dumb women who try to sweet talk their way out of getting fined. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Thailand has laws, obey them or suffer a penalty, what happens to people from other countries, including Thailand, is not a part of the argument. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 It's just a business and the Boss makes the Big Money Police lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiu-Jitsu Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Agree with all replies although if asked for the key you do give it too them normally. Why would you do that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Agree with all replies although if asked for the key you do give it too them normally. Why would you do that?? Normally wouldn't but I have in the past, depends if they think your going to **** off without clearing the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I can assure you that Thais do get stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I been stopped there 2 times as well, Thai 5 year motor bike licence, copy of the green book, insuance sticker up to date, legal scooter, all ok and I am sent on my way again. They don't bust anybody without a valid reason but yes okay it's easy for them to walk 25 meter out of the police station and set up shop and if the rain comes they will bugger off into the polece station. Easy money for city hall. The tourist can then brag to their frinds back home that they got stopped by the police and paid 200 baht and was sent on their marry way again, I guess some of them will find that quite cool/funny. In how many countries are you allowed to continue after being busted without licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Pattaya RTP trying to assist TAT get rid of the last of the evil foreigners so that Thailand will only have Thais no need foreigners go home tourists and expats we hate you all just leave your/our money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Driving a motorbike while talking on a mobile is plain crazy when traffic is coming from you at all angles as it does here, he did you a favour by stopping you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 As we know, the current high season is and will be quiet. So, the few guest who are coming or are remaining have to fill the gap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Driving a motorbike while talking on a mobile is plain crazy when traffic is coming from you at all angles as it does here, he did you a favour by stopping you Yes, the same thing with the ladys who drive with a umbrella. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Going back later when the queue is shorter could result in the bike being taken away to the compound in the meantime, before you have paid your fine. Yes, and the cost for getting it out of the compound will probably be quite a bit more than the fine which he will still have to pay anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Troll post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Going back later when the queue is shorter could result in the bike being taken away to the compound in the meantime, before you have paid your fine. Yes, and the cost for getting it out of the compound will probably be quite a bit more than the fine which he will still have to pay anyway. And after they have booked you for not having a bike licence, you immediately pay the fine, get your key back and ride off. Don't make much sense does it, "O" well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 ^^ The fine ticket, once paid, gives you a couple of days grace period when showed to any other policeman while returning the bike to home or rental shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 generating revenue any way they can? serve and protect? ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degobuy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I been stopped there 2 times as well, Thai 5 year motor bike licence, copy of the green book, insuance sticker up to date, legal scooter, all ok and I am sent on my way again. They don't bust anybody without a valid reason but yes okay it's easy for them to walk 25 meter out of the police station and set up shop and if the rain comes they will bugger off into the polece station. Easy money for city hall. The tourist can then brag to their frinds back home that they got stopped by the police and paid 200 baht and was sent on their marry way again, I guess some of them will find that quite cool/funny. In how many countries are you allowed to continue after being busted without licence? Why do you carry your green book on your bike,I was told to leave my book at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I been stopped there 2 times as well, Thai 5 year motor bike licence, copy of the green book, insuance sticker up to date, legal scooter, all ok and I am sent on my way again. They don't bust anybody without a valid reason but yes okay it's easy for them to walk 25 meter out of the police station and set up shop and if the rain comes they will bugger off into the polece station. Easy money for city hall. The tourist can then brag to their frinds back home that they got stopped by the police and paid 200 baht and was sent on their marry way again, I guess some of them will find that quite cool/funny. In how many countries are you allowed to continue after being busted without licence? Why do you carry your green book on your bike,I was told to leave my book at home. "copy of the green book" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 A similar post cross-posted in two threads removed along with two replies quoting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkev1888 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 You will find there are plenty of other checkpoints set up at different locations where they are looking for different things and stop only Thais. I have been waived through many, generally on the darkside, where they are looking for drugs, guns, stolen or unregistered bikes etc, they are then not interested in stopping farang. Not sure how this could have passed you by if you have been here 20 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) OP Maybe I'm missing something but I don't really understand this sentence. "Long-nosed do not need to feel discriminated, some Indians were included, and some other nationalities too". OP could you make the sentence clearer please? Edited December 14, 2014 by uptheos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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