One of every 2,222 Brits dies in Thailand ..Deaths up 31%

[redandyellow]

Taken from "British Behavior Abroad report" PDF file:

Number of Brits to Thailand in 2013: 870,164

Number of British Deaths in Thailand 2012: 296

Number of British Deaths in Thailand 2013: 389 - up 31%

Number of British Deaths Worldwide 2012: 6,237

Number of British Deaths Worldwide 2013: 6,193 - down .8%

Imagine this scenario : Man U stadium holds 20,000 excited football fans - There is a death penalty for 9 of them - picked at random; this is the mandate for those who wish to come in and watch the match! For 9 unlucky fans, death is the price they would pay to see Wayne Rooney...

If this scenario was the reality, would anyone go to the Football game - with the odds of dying at the event set at exactly 1 in 2,222?

For a British person then, what's the damned difference between the Football game and going to Thailand, in terms of the presented scenario and the odds of 1 in 2,222 chances of dying there?

One Answer : You can't drink nearly as much Beer on the airplane as at the Stadium - and it's a hell of a lot more expensive for that Airplane Ticket to the Kingdom. Those 20,000 football fans would know that 9 will die going in, but British Tourists are blissfully unaware that their days are numbered when they enthusiastically head off to the Kingdom..

Ignorance really is bliss, or is it??

[jdinasia]

You are aware that the arrivals number has nothing to do with the number of deaths aren't you?

You need many more facts to draw any real concept of what is happening. Like the age and health of the people who die. 70+ in age? Cancer or heart attack?

No doubt that many more young people die here because of accidents on motorcycles.

[Beetlejuice]

BTW, OP, no need to shout.

What the OP is not taking into consideration that probably most of the western ex-pats who stay long term in Thailand are 50 years old and older, many much older, here as retirees, so therefore I would guess that there would be a higher expiry rate among those age groups.

I know that up here in Chiang Mai many ex-pats are retirees and quite a few in their 60s, 70s and 80s. When I have to visit Immigration for my 90 day and yearly extension I see many old farangs that appear totally knackered and on their last legs. So it doesn`t surprise that each year there are high death rates among the retirees in Thailand.

As for the tourists, there are those who take drugs or hit the roads on rented motorbikes but have a serious lack of experience, that accounts for many of the tourist deaths

[redandyellow]

I understand your point. Some countries don't differentiate. For example, outrageously the US State Department, which collects vast amounts of data about every country on Earth, officially refuses to release statistics on the number of Americans dying in Thailand each year.

[redandyellow]

Point well taken Beetlejuice, however i think we all know its dangerous in the land of smiles..

1. A recent study ( 2014 ) by the University of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute confirmed what many already know about Thailand: that being on the road there can be a treacherous business. Thailand ranked number two in the university's study of road fatalities in the world, with 44 road deaths per 100,000 people. It was second only to Namibia, which had 45 road deaths per 100,000. Fatalities from road accidents made up 5.1 percent of Thailand's overall deaths.

2. In May 2012, the British newspaper "The Guardian" published a story that ranked Thailand the number one most dangerous country in the world for motorcycle casualties and fatalities.

3. Statistically, Thailand has the dubious distinction of having the highest gun murder rate in Asia. In 2012, there were 5.3 murders by firearms per 100,000 people in Thailand, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime reported. Thailand has a similar homicide rate to the U.S., with a mere fifth the amount of firearms per-capita of the United States. "Thailand has the highest gun murder rate in Asia." October 24, 2012. Retrieved from asiancorrespondent.com

That's worrisome - because most murders in Thailand are perpetrated with knives, machetes and blunt instruments..

[EyesWideOpen]

So if your data show 870,164 British arrivals in 2013 to Thailand, those sound like

tourists. Doesn't that automatically rule out old long term expats on the verge of death ?

[redandyellow]

Expats are a separate issue.. 1 of 2,222 British Tourists die in Thailand - most of unnatural causes. The "most" is the kicker of course..

Did you know that Thai Authorities in Phuket and elsewhere stopped publishing lists of monthly foreigner fatalities in April of 2012? Why? Because it could affect tourism. Hello? - other events have taken care of that..

[MrTee]

PS.. OP a game of footie lasts 90 minutes.. 105 with half time -- maybe a 2 hour event.

lets suppose this only affect tourists and not the long term visitors...

Your average tourist is in LOS for 2 weeks - 336 hours or 169 games

Stats not your strong point?

how many folk - in the UK - die each year per million of the population? (hint about 11,000)..

[DaffyDuck]

So if your data show 870,164 British arrivals in 2013 to Thailand, those sound like

tourists. Doesn't that automatically rule out old long term expats on the verge of death ?

Extremely flawed number, since 800,000 of those arrivals are probably repeat visitors on visa runs. Arrival numbers means squat without knowing if they are unique or repeat arrivals.

Completely worthless OP filled with hyperbole and sensationalism.

[AYJAYDEE]

So if your data show 870,164 British arrivals in 2013 to Thailand, those sound like

tourists. Doesn't that automatically rule out old long term expats on the verge of death ?

many of them could be visa runs

[AYJAYDEE]

So if your data show 870,164 British arrivals in 2013 to Thailand, those sound like

tourists. Doesn't that automatically rule out old long term expats on the verge of death ?

Extremely flawed number, since 800,000 of those arrivals are probably repeat visitors on visa runs. Arrival numbers means squat without knowing if they are unique or repeat arrivals.

Completely worthless OP filled with hyperbole and sensationalism.

800,000? lol

[redandyellow]

"Extremely flawed number, since 800,000 of those arrivals are probably repeat visitors on visa runs"

You work for T.A.T ? "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies and statistics." Mark Twain (American Humorist, 1835- 1910) so I agree with you to a point

[DaffyDuck]

It's called 'sarcasm' - look it up. You don't need to work for TAT, knowing that many permanent tourists rake up about 25 trips a year in visa runs, each person.

[wooloomooloo]

Imagine this scenario : Man U stadium holds 20,000...

I got that far then I gave up the will to live.

[kannot]

BTW, OP, no need to shout.

What the OP is not taking into consideration that probably most of the western ex-pats who stay long term in Thailand are 50 years old and older, many much older, here as retirees, so therefore I would guess that there would be a higher expiry rate among those age groups.

I know that up here in Chiang Mai many ex-pats are retirees and quite a few in their 60s, 70s and 80s. When I have to visit Immigration for my 90 day and yearly extension I see many old farangs that appear totally knackered and on their last legs. So it doesn`t surprise that each year there are high death rates among the retirees in Thailand.

As for the tourists, there are those who take drugs or hit the roads on rented motorbikes but have a serious lack of experience, that accounts for many of the tourist deaths

youd also have to look at the % of people that come here out pf the population of the UK who are not of sound mind, many losers misfits, nut jobs. weirdos.

[kannot]

"Extremely flawed number, since 800,000 of those arrivals are probably repeat visitors on visa runs"

You work for T.A.T ? "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies and statistics." Mark Twain (American Humorist, 1835- 1910) so I agree with you to a point

compulsory if you work for TAT

[impulse]

One out of 2,222 Brits died in Thailand in 2013. (According to the OP, not my numbers)

Given average life expectancy of 75 years, you'd expect about one out of 75 Brits died in the UK in 2013.

Meaning a Brit is almost 30x more likely to die in the UK than in Thailand

A bonanza for Thai health tourism!

Of course, that's not true. Just points to the fallacy of using a single statistic with no context.

[metisdead]

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