webfact Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 AirAsia jet turns back in Thailand due to 'irregularity' Bangkok, Thailand | AFP | BANGKOK: -- An AirAsia flight bound for northeast Thailand turned back to the capital Bangkok shortly after takeoff Tuesday when pilots detected an "irregularity" in the storage compartment, airline officials said. The news comes as search teams detected debris in the sea from an AirAsia jet that vanished in a storm Sunday en route from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore with 162 people aboard. A body was also sighted. AirAsia Flight FD3254 returned to Bangkok's Don Mueang International Airport soon after departing for Khon Kaen at 11.10 am (0410 GMT). It was allowed to resume service after engineers ruled out any technical problems. "After departure from Don Mueang, the pilots detected a minor irregularity in the storage area, thus in the interest of safety the flight returned to land at Don Mueang Airport for a detailed inspection," said Thai AirAsia in a statement. "Engineers did not discover any issues compromising the safety of flight FD3254," it said. No passengers cancelled their flights and the plane arrived at its destination an hour behind schedule, officials said. An AirAsia spokesman at Don Mueang Airport said the pilots turned back after "hearing some noise in the luggage compartment". He could not confirm the reason for the noise. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-12-30 -- RELATED STORY: 40 bodies have been recovered in the search for the missing AirAsia plane: Video, full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/787996-40-bodies-have-been-recovered-in-the-search-for-the-missing-airasia-plane/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ldnguy Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 Probably happens every day but only makes the news at times like this. Nothing unusual at all. Better safe than sorry. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 Pilots getting nervous?? Actually very understandable!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya28 Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 Strange !! With all the aircraft sounds around, how can noises be heard in the baggage compartment ? Very strange !! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Phew. Nervous smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lee b Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 If i was a pilot i would have done exactly the same thing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stickyrice2000 Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 Safety first. The pilot has done the right thing instead of risking people's lives. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe there was a monkey on the wing? All jokes aside, good for the pilot. There is a lot of pressure on pilots (especially for discount airlines) to push through sometimes. Safety first!!! Profits second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobber Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What about TG 916 that s turned back today as well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 As a pilot myself, It is always better to be safe than sorry! One hour's delay to KK is not that much ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 TG 916 turns backafter hydraulic leak. Dumping fuel first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBrit Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 That'a a VERY expensive fuel-dump. 12 hours of avgas needing to be dumped to reach a safe landing weight..holy cow. Anyone knows what happens to the fuel at altitude after it's dumped? Just out of interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upnotover Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What about TG 916 that s turned back today as well See post #9 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well if I had been in the plane I would have been very happy to return and land in one piece. Unfortunately unlike a car one cannot get out and push a plane or give the beast a kick when some 30,000 feet+ (about 6 miles or 9 kilometers) up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 It's actually a cockroach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I agree with Pattaya 28, no way with twin engines to hear noise in the cargo hold from the cockpit. If it were a fire, there be alarms and the fire suppression would go off. I wouldn't want to fly with these 2 guys in the cockpit, they must be ex taxi drivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I agree with Pattaya 28, no way with twin engines to hear noise in the cargo hold from the cockpit. If it were a fire, there be alarms and the fire suppression would go off. I wouldn't want to fly with these 2 guys in the cockpit, they must be ex taxi drivers. Ever considered he went to have a look after being informed by one of the crew??????????????? You surely don't need everything spelled out to you do you ????????????????????????????????? Edited December 30, 2014 by biplanebluey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 I agree with Pattaya 28, no way with twin engines to hear noise in the cargo hold from the cockpit. If it were a fire, there be alarms and the fire suppression would go off. I wouldn't want to fly with these 2 guys in the cockpit, they must be ex taxi drivers. you don't know how much was made up by the newspaper and what was lost in translation.....I read things I was involved (not airplane) and what I read in the newspaper was not even remotely similar to what happened. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangsaenguy Posted December 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2014 That'a a VERY expensive fuel-dump. 12 hours of avgas needing to be dumped to reach a safe landing weight..holy cow. Anyone knows what happens to the fuel at altitude after it's dumped? Just out of interest. Let's hope they didn't load avgas into a jet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Passengers sat at Perth Airport 30hrs while they replaced a tyre which blew on landing. Mind Perth International, give the darlings their due , is being up-graded but 30 hrs there still represents 2 days in the BKK Hilton. Edited December 30, 2014 by chainarong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm an extremely nervous flyer but like the old saying goes the pilots want to get to their destination in one piece just as much as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Strange !! With all the aircraft sounds around, how can noises be heard in the baggage compartment ? Very strange !! Probably the same way you can hear many noises within an aircraft beyond the predictable hum of the engines including the wheels engaging and disengaging below the cargo hold and the flaps and spoilers on the wings, hydraulics... Not strange at all that a pilot and/or crew would be aware of unusual noises coming from below. Especially not strange considering it was heard and obviously loud enough to be heard .... maybe misinterpreting your post but almost seems like you are expressing doubt or credibility of the incident as if there was a conspiracy between the pilots to divert the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Strange !! With all the aircraft sounds around, how can noises be heard in the baggage compartment ? Very strange !! Read the article again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchurch259 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Strange !! With all the aircraft sounds around, how can noises be heard in the baggage compartment ? Very strange !! Not as strange as it sounds. Directly under the Flight Deck/Cabin is the Equipment & Electric Compartment (E & E) and there is a Bulkhead that separates it from the Forward Cargo Compartment. The Flight Deck/Cabin is quieter than you think and if something was moving around, loose bags or cargo they could hear it. The thing is you do not want stuff moving around in flight as it could damage the Cargo Compartment Lining, which becomes a Fire Hazard or banging into the back of the E & E Compartment with all the Electronic Components in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) That'a a VERY expensive fuel-dump. 12 hours of avgas needing to be dumped to reach a safe landing weight..holy cow. Anyone knows what happens to the fuel at altitude after it's dumped? Just out of interest. It just atomizes. Expensive, yes, but nothing compared to the lives of those aboard and the cost of the airplane. And having to land overgross definitely hazards the airplane. Some places do have restrictions governing areas over which, and altitudes below which, dumping can't be done except in emergencies I think. BTW, it's jet fuel, not AVGAS. Edited December 30, 2014 by hawker9000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchurch259 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, this happen often. It's because of lack of training here in such country's. Oh, not my words, just these from a arrogant US bitch at Fox NEWS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlKz4b7IeG4 I do not know who made the original quote "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool, than to open you month and remove all doubt". I have been in the airline/military aviation sector for over 60 years. I was a Flight Engineer, Mechanic and Maintenance Manager. I now inspect aircraft and records for the subsidiary of a major Japanese Bank. I have dealt with the Flight Crews and Maintenance of almost all the airlines in Asia. They are safe and their aircraft are maintained to regulatory requirements. My favorites are EVA and Thai International. It is ultimately the responsibility of the Captain to maintain a safe flight. I was not there, but perhaps it would have been better to divert and/or land. The A320 is not capable of climbing over some the storms in that area. Some of those thunderheads can go to 50,000ft and the A320 can not. I believe this a weather related accident, and may God Bless those involved passengers and families !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchurch259 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Passengers sat at Perth Airport 30hrs while they replaced a tyre which blew on landing. Mind Perth International, give the darlings their due , is being up-graded but 30 hrs there still represents 2 days in the BKK Hilton. I do not know where they had to get the tire from, I have worked nearly all the commercial aircraft made since 1950 and you can change the Wheel Assemble on the worst one in no more than two hours from a standing start, that is if you have a Wheel Assembly, Jack and Tools. What airline were you flying that took 30 hours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, this happen often. It's because of lack of training here in such country's. Oh, not my words, just these from a arrogant US bitch at Fox NEWS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlKz4b7IeG4 I do not know who made the original quote "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool, than to open you month and remove all doubt". I have been in the airline/military aviation sector for over 60 years. I was a Flight Engineer, Mechanic and Maintenance Manager. I now inspect aircraft and records for the subsidiary of a major Japanese Bank. I have dealt with the Flight Crews and Maintenance of almost all the airlines in Asia. They are safe and their aircraft are maintained to regulatory requirements. My favorites are EVA and Thai International. It is ultimately the responsibility of the Captain to maintain a safe flight. I was not there, but perhaps it would have been better to divert and/or land. The A320 is not capable of climbing over some the storms in that area. Some of those thunderheads can go to 50,000ft and the A320 can not. I believe this a weather related accident, and may God Bless those involved passengers and families !! As for the last part of your post, you navigated wrong!! Wrong thread............................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 A very nonsensical post has been removed as well as the well pointed out replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galacon Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Something is getting wrong with Airasia...Whenever i see a bad news related to flight , 90% of time it's Air Asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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