Top brass deny giving up military posts for Cabinet
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The three Cabinet members who have retained their seats in the armed forces yesterday dismissed rumours that the would give up their military posts soon in order to focus on their government job.

Commerce Minister General Chatchai Sarikalya, Justice Minister General Paiboon Koomchaya and Deputy Education Minister Lt-General Surachet Chaiwong all denied that they would give up their military posts ahead of their retirements this year.

Chatchai is assistant Army chief, Paiboon is deputy supreme commander of the armed forces, and Surachet is deputy Army chief of staff.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Top-brass-deny-giving-up-military-posts-for-Cabine-30251092.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-02

Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

If their supreme leader is anything to go by they are full of BS.

No coup I don't want to be PM yet all the ploting with suthep.

Power that's what it's all about and stuff the people.

If they really care about the people and the country then they should choose one or the other. Are they getting rich from to high paid salaries? If they are getting salaries then they won't want to give up thier positions.

Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

The old but she did it argument so it is perfectly acceptable for the new top dogs. The Junta through out the government because of what they were doing and promised change. To come and do the same is extremely hypocritical and makes them look worse than the last. They should be doing the opposite of the last government and not feeding at the trough also.

Military officer 1st and cabinet minister 2nd or vice versa ?

Maybe so capable they handle multi-tasking with ease.

If their supreme leader is anything to go by they are full of BS.

No coup I don't want to be PM yet all the ploting with suthep.

Power that's what it's all about and stuff the people.

Parrots get stuffed, not people.

Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

The old but she did it argument so it is perfectly acceptable for the new top dogs. The Junta through out the government because of what they were doing and promised change. To come and do the same is extremely hypocritical and makes them look worse than the last. They should be doing the opposite of the last government and not feeding at the trough also.

Reading and comprehension - FAIL. My post was exactly the opposite to what you claim.

Where is the truth in this?

We will never know...

That's the way you skim the tax payer twice, nothing more than greed

and they will keeping feeding until they are bloated.

How could they ever get billionaires if they didn't have two jobs ?

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

The old but she did it argument so it is perfectly acceptable for the new top dogs. The Junta through out the government because of what they were doing and promised change. To come and do the same is extremely hypocritical and makes them look worse than the last. They should be doing the opposite of the last government and not feeding at the trough also.

Making quite a few assumptions aren't we?

Seems your another negative negative negative on whatever poster.

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

The old double dip. Plus it gives you exponentially more pull/juice in any other

business you/your family is involved in.

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

"The PM is Head of State"

The Prime Minister is the Head of Government. The Head of State is 87 years old and presently in Sirirat Hospital under medical care.

I guarantee P.M. Prayuth has no aspirations to be Head of State unlike a certain previous P.M. was rumored to have.

how can u expect any of these clowns with multiple jobs, sorry, paid seats, to do any job good as they are supposed?

money money money

Are there not hundreds of military in government positions,committees etc not just these 3?

I doubt if many, if any,have given up their military ranks, perks, pensions etc.

Probably all carrying on their additional responsibilities simply for the good of the country and the people considering that is reward enough.

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

But it doesn't reduce or cancel the responsibility of oversight of all.

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

Besides your serious error re head of state, may I point out that there is no indication in the OP that extra salaries are being received.

Correct, the PM couldn't handle all positions, in fact, she couldn't handle 3. And I would argue that due to her lack of attendance in parliament, she didn't justify her original salary as MP.

If their supreme leader is anything to go by they are full of BS.

No coup I don't want to be PM yet all the ploting with suthep.

Power that's what it's all about and stuff the people.

Much like the bullshit from Yingluck that she was the de facto PM and not her brother, or that there was no promlems with the rice programs, or we PROMISE to pay the rice farmers next Monday.

That sort of thing do you mean?

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Everybody queries the amount of generals in Thailand...I have heard as many as 2000. Its simple really, you cant stage a coup without having all these generals ready to take up positions at the drop of a hat. Generals are plenty so they can facilitate coups. In this reform process would it be possible to reduce those in the rank of General and above to lets say 100. This may indicate that the military will step back from running the country at the behest of a few wealthy families. I can dream cant I

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

Nothing like some facts to sort out the willfully uninformed.

If their supreme leader is anything to go by they are full of BS.

No coup I don't want to be PM yet all the ploting with suthep.

Power that's what it's all about and stuff the people.

Much like the bullshit from Yingluck that she was the de facto PM and not her brother, or that there was no promlems with the rice programs, or we PROMISE to pay the rice farmers next Monday.

That sort of thing do you mean?

Ahh... So two wrongs make one right.

So how is this administration any better than the previous one. Wasn't that the point of the coup anyway, to replace a corrupt government with a less one?

Your whole argument is moot as usual.

They cannot have a great deal to do in their day to day job in the military if they are able to take on cabinet positions as well without it having an adverse affect on their military role.

Either that or more than likely they have next to nothing to do in their day to day military jobs which allows them time do fulfill cabinet roles.

The question must be then what is the point in retaining them in the military at all, with the salary and all the perks if there is nothing for them to do.

Whether they have the uniform on or not makes no matter, they are always the carekeepers and always in charge. That is why there is a clause in each constitution that "allows" a coup.

The Thai/Chinese rich elite have always been the owners of this country. Allowed so by some clever wording about things and always protected by the military. The PMs have been allowed to be "care takers", the facilitators of "democracy" and the face of Thailand but, never truly in charge. They have always been under threat of coups if their government or the Thai people get too educated and strong. This is the truth. These people the rich elite and military and xxxxxxx are very much intertwined. Marriages, business, families are all mixed together. They rule. They also began this red shirt-yellow shirt fighting because brother Tak and his clan was/is too strong. They did it as a means to bolster the "clever wording" and to pit good vs evil. Its there plan and it is working.

Everything that is happening now is a reset because of impending doom in order to keep the power.

Why do you think there was problems with police and corruption? Because the government had no control over them. The military would not allow the government to reign in a very obvious corrupt organization because then it would send thai people the message that the government is good and for the people's well being. That would make the government and people strong and the rich elite weak. If the strong government could reign in that corruption then, they know they are next.

This type of governmental system has oppressed Thailand for many years. It will continue down the same path until the people wake up and decide what so many other countries have been doing these past few years. Look what happened in the Philippines in 1986 led by Corozan Aquino. A peoples revolution took place and outed the corrupt Marcos and military regime. The people did that and in fact through the military out along with one of the most corrupt dictators of all time Marcos.

Military officer 1st and cabinet minister 2nd or vice versa ?

Maybe so capable they handle multi-tasking with ease.

How much work is there as a high ranking military officer? It's an honest question.

They cannot have a great deal to do in their day to day job in the military if they are able to take on cabinet positions as well without it having an adverse affect on their military role.

Either that or more than likely they have next to nothing to do in their day to day military jobs which allows them time do fulfill cabinet roles.

The question must be then what is the point in retaining them in the military at all, with the salary and all the perks if there is nothing for them to do.

Somebody has to plan the next coup.

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Holding 2 or more major positions is not unusual here. I remember a PM who was also MoD and Chair of the Rice Policy Committee, and didn't let that interfere with her First Class World Tour.

OTOH if you want to actually achieve something..........

Those positions fell under the Head of State. The PM is Head of State so there is no conflict of interest. And the PM did not receive separate salaries for each position. Theoretically, the PM could take on the duties of all the cabinet positions, albeit only receive the PM salary. But that would be almost impossible for one person to meet all the administrative requirements.

A bloke who died a couple of months ago in Australia did that back in the 1970's. Well him and one mate.

They got elected democratically, assumed all cabinet responsibilities and dictated laws that changed Australia forever.

Some for the good, most for the bad and which Oz is still paying for now and will continue to pay for unless something changes drastically.

Isn't the President of the US also the head of the military?Commander in Chief or some such term?.

Military officer 1st and cabinet minister 2nd or vice versa ?

Maybe so capable they handle multi-tasking with ease.

With all the multi-tasking experience they'll be able to manage the multiple salaries with ease.

Whether they have the uniform on or not makes no matter, they are always the carekeepers and always in charge. That is why there is a clause in each constitution that "allows" a coup.

The Thai/Chinese rich elite have always been the owners of this country. Allowed so by some clever wording about things and always protected by the military. The PMs have been allowed to be "care takers", the facilitators of "democracy" and the face of Thailand but, never truly in charge. They have always been under threat of coups if their government or the Thai people get too educated and strong. This is the truth. These people the rich elite and military and xxxxxxx are very much intertwined. Marriages, business, families are all mixed together. They rule. They also began this red shirt-yellow shirt fighting because brother Tak and his clan was/is too strong. They did it as a means to bolster the "clever wording" and to pit good vs evil. Its there plan and it is working.

Everything that is happening now is a reset because of impending doom in order to keep the power.

Why do you think there was problems with police and corruption? Because the government had no control over them. The military would not allow the government to reign in a very obvious corrupt organization because then it would send thai people the message that the government is good and for the people's well being. That would make the government and people strong and the rich elite weak. If the strong government could reign in that corruption then, they know they are next.

This type of governmental system has oppressed Thailand for many years. It will continue down the same path until the people wake up and decide what so many other countries have been doing these past few years. Look what happened in the Philippines in 1986 led by Corozan Aquino. A peoples revolution took place and outed the corrupt Marcos and military regime. The people did that and in fact through the military out along with one of the most corrupt dictators of all time Marcos.

As you well know, "brother Tak and his clan, " are a small but significant part of this Thai/Chinese business elite, even going so far as marrying into the Cambodian military elite.