lack of passion

[Crazy chef 1]

at first i have to admit this problem is not solely restricted to Thailand because as my colleagues over sea told me it has began there as well.

currently i have a few trainees. three in my kitchen,two in F&B,two in housekeeping and one in finance.

in my entire life i haven't seen such a bunch of unmotivated and lazy youngsters.it seems their only interest is hanging around,chatting and the occasional meal in between.there is no desire to gain more or rather new knowledge, no passion and no fire. yesterday i went to the main office and the finance chap slept at his desk-is this normal nowadays? and what is even worst none of our Thai senior staff says anything they can do as they please.

if you start your professional life in this way how will it end? there is no discipline.

my kitchen and F&B trainees are now sorted because i keep them constantly busy(and they hate it) but i would like to contribute at least a little to their future in regards of work ethics.

the worst thing happened last year. one of my short term trainees finished her internship and i had to evaluate her. she was a lazy little bugger though i gave her a pretty low score.15 min later i got called to HR and our DHR instructed me to change the evaluation though that the girl will pass-ain't gonna happen i replied.if you wanna fake a appraisal do it by yourself and i walked out.

how can there be any progress in this country with this nonsense no failure policy???

sorry had to get off my chest.

your thoughts and no Thai bashing-(constructive)bashing towards the youngsters nowadays is ok...

Edited January 15, 2015 by Crazy chef 1

[HCB]

That situation ever happened on me last 5 yrs and that is why I do all myself and employ suppliers no employees now.

[Toknarok]

Doesn't surprise me at all. Couple of teachers I know have the same problem, head teachers over-riding their descision to fail students. Money comes into it of course.

[robblok]

Typical.. the young generation is bad rant. Its just because you have grown in your job you can't remember where you started. Also about motivation if you work for yourself your usually far more motivated as when you work for a boss.

I have trained someone recently (been busy with it for over a year now) and she is not Thai but her ethics are good. Then again she is not that young and likes what she is doing.

*edit* the no fail thing is stupid.

Edited January 15, 2015 by robblok

[Fiddlesticks]

Unfortunately this is endemic among the young of all nations today. Causes one to wonder what the future of our society will look like 10-20 years from now. Seems the young are handed too much by families and society today without having to earn any of it. This creates an entitlement mindset that is very destructive to society.

All I can say is that I do not envy you having to find employees in today's workplace. I think you are better off hiring older employees and forget about the lazy louts. Good luck!

[mrtoad]

Unmotivated lazy staff don't pass probation , if your HR apartment is doing that sort of nonsense then that department needs an overhaul. Sleeping on duty in most places is a dismissal.

[robblok]

Unmotivated lazy staff don't pass probation , if your HR apartment is doing that sort of nonsense then that department needs an overhaul. Sleeping on duty in most places is a dismissal.

Have you ever slept on the job.. I honestly think I never did it not even when the boss was not around when I was a lot younger, though productivity was less when the boss was not around.

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

[robblok]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

[robblok]

Seriously have you ever heard a generation being positive about the next generation..

[villagefarang]

Sounds like your problem is with HR. If they select the wrong people there isn’t much you can do to fix them. In any business, selecting the right people for the job is key.

I think you are doing all you can by trying to keep them busy, even if they hate it. Whether they succeed or fail in life is really up to them. Focus on the ones who show potential.

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

a managers job is to hire people, evaluate their performance, reward if deserved and fire if necessary. stick to your low level duties and leave the management to those who understand the concepts. and how do you know he didnt hire them?

[HeijoshinCool]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

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You are the single most predictable and contrary poster on this forum. Try saying something nice now and then, even if you don't agree with someone. It's as good for you as it is for them.

[sdanielmcev]

Lazy, shiftless kids. Just want to dance to that new music. And don't get me started on that Elvis person.

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

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You are the single most predictable and contrary poster on this forum. Try saying something nice now and then, even if you don't agree with someone. It's as good for you as it is for them.

my deepest sympathies on your failure to follow through on your declared intention of a few days ago. have you always had this problem?

[robblok]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

a managers job is to hire people, evaluate their performance, reward if deserved and fire if necessary. stick to your low level duties and leave the management to those who understand the concepts. and how do you know he didnt hire them?

Maybe I got a clue from the fact that there is an HR department.

If he hired the guy then yes I see your point if not I don't. Because if he is not responsible for hiring then he just has to make due with what he gets and that means that he can't control all variables while you want to make him responsible.

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

a managers job is to hire people, evaluate their performance, reward if deserved and fire if necessary. stick to your low level duties and leave the management to those who understand the concepts. and how do you know he didnt hire them?

Maybe I got a clue from the fact that there is an HR department.

If he hired the guy then yes I see your point if not I don't. Because if he is not responsible for hiring then he just has to make due with what he gets and that means that he can't control all variables while you want to make him responsible.

his job is to train and motivate. and if he has some employees who wont be trained and motivated, he should get rid of them.

[robblok]

his job is to train and motivate. and if he has some employees who wont be trained and motivated, he should get rid of them.

Seems you have a problem reading.. his kitchen guys are sorted.. he is commenting on other departments.

Its good that your not a manager as reading is not your strong suit.

[HeijoshinCool]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

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You are the single most predictable and contrary poster on this forum. Try saying something nice now and then, even if you don't agree with someone. It's as good for you as it is for them.

my deepest sympathies on your failure to follow through on your declared intention of a few days ago. have you always had this problem?

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That was for that particular thread.

But thank you for proving my point.

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

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You are the single most predictable and contrary poster on this forum. Try saying something nice now and then, even if you don't agree with someone. It's as good for you as it is for them.

my deepest sympathies on your failure to follow through on your declared intention of a few days ago. have you always had this problem?

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That was for that particular thread.

But thank you for proving my point.

no it wasnt. but hey, dont be embarrassed, plenty of guys havent got the courage of their convictions.

[mesquite]

F&B, HR, DHR ???

in my entire life i haven't seen such a bunch of unmotivated and lazy youngsters posters.

[HeijoshinCool]

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You are the single most predictable and contrary poster on this forum. Try saying something nice now and then, even if you don't agree with someone. It's as good for you as it is for them.

my deepest sympathies on your failure to follow through on your declared intention of a few days ago. have you always had this problem?

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That was for that particular thread.

But thank you for proving my point.

no it wasnt. but hey, dont be embarrassed, plenty of guys havent got the courage of their convictions.

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It is very kind and thoughtful of you to repeatedly prove my point.

(See, I paid you a complement, and I feel much better now.)

[Costas2008]

Crazy Chef, why don't you hire me?

Don't know much about cooking but I'm really good at eating and drinking.

Only sleep about 4 hours during the day and generally I love doing nothing during my working hours........as I did during all my working life.

How did I get through?.......don't know........still wondering about it......

Enough said.......feeling tired now.......going for a nap.

[Crazy chef 1]

Unmotivated lazy staff don't pass probation , if your HR apartment is doing that sort of nonsense then that department needs an overhaul. Sleeping on duty in most places is a dismissal.

according to Thai labor law they have to get caught three times for the SAME offence and warned accordingly...

in regards to the HR department-i can't agree more...

[Lukecan]

Only sleep about 4 hours during the day and generally I love doing nothing during my working hours........as I did during all my working life.

How did I get through?.......don't know........still wondering about it......

Enough said.......feeling tired now.......going for a nap.

The very reason why Greece entered a chronic recession.

[Crazy chef 1]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

may MR Jaydee read the OP again and i will give him some help...

...my kitchen and F&B trainees are now sorted because i keep them constantly busy(and they hate it) but i would like to contribute at least a little to their future in regards of work ethics.

...and as stated in the same OP i am NOT talking about full time employees i am talking about TRAINEES...

may it helps...

[arthurwait]

To generalise a bit but......... Only the generation or 2 of Chinese immigrants who built this country and established the businesses here have been the only ones interested in work. Most of their grandchildren aren't interested now either.

No one will fail here because it exposes how bad everything really here is and changing that would upset the status quo.

The country will never move on and the rich like it that way.

[JingerBen]

They lack passion because they are ininterested in the work.

"Take this job and shove it!"

[AYJAYDEE]

as their boss and trainer, you have just admitted your inability to motivate the peope under you.As your boss I would start by firing you and getting someone who can do the job I'm paying them for.

As the boss you have hired him.. you should take responsibility and fire yourself.

*you made a stupid remark now think again*

You can't motivate everyone and he is not responsible for the hiring.

may MR Jaydee read the OP again and i will give him some help...

...my kitchen and F&B trainees are now sorted because i keep them constantly busy(and they hate it) but i would like to contribute at least a little to their future in regards of work ethics.

...and as stated in the same OP i am NOT talking about full time employees i am talking about TRAINEES...

may it helps...

and you seem unable to impart that motivation. have you considered another line of work?

[Crazy chef 1]

obviously it doesn't...