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Oh cmon. I use Skyscanner and have used Aeroflot, Thai airways, Finnair, Brittish airways, Norwegian, SAS. Qatar. And the cheapest is usually Aeroflot but for me they also have smallest legspace. The difference is mostly that European companies have old chicks working 25 years where the Asian have younger sexier with a smile on. The European companies don't have as good food as the others. The difference in service i think is minor but if you often go business class i expect you also want people to lick your ass and therefore you can complain. For us mortals that use economy class there's not so big difference that you can not endure a 15 have flight. The more that choose the cheapest prices the more the other companies will lower theirs

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I don't know Thai fly new planes 777-300ER with individual entertentertainment on my route ARN-BKK and with A380 on the BKK-CDG route with individual entertainment...and on the return flight to bkk we got a free upgrade to business class because some mixup with our seats. But one thing they seem to have trouble with at THAI is the frequent flyer miles at 2 occasions in the last year have I needed to remind them of my mileague accrual.

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I've flown Thai Airways and Eva to UK.

Both offer an excellent service and I have no complaints about anything.

The only advantage with Eva is, that they offer cheaper tickets.

Can't really understand what is all this bashing about Thai Airways........I think it's just a habit of certain TVF members.

Last time I flew Thai they still had no in-seat entertainment, just the old 1980's drop down screen, service and food were OK though. Should you want to spend a bit more then Eva's premium economy is best by far.

When was the last time and what route?

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Never understood the obsession with food on flights.

I've never understood the obsession with alcohol.. On some forums where you get a lot of premium passengers, their main consideration seems to be the brands of champagne available on board.

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I have flown EVA from LAX to BKK my last seven trips. Why? Simple. EVA has an excellent class called Premium Elite. You get a nice big chair, plenty of elbow room, it reclines, it is forward of coach just behind First class. You get priority checkin at EVA counter which means basically no line. You get priority boarding which isn't much of an issue since the section is reserved but it still is nice. For the extra $450 USD extra it costs above coach, I love it. Never seen a baby in this section yet. Price I guess tends to keep them in the back. Sorry but I have had several trips ruined by babies crying and jumping around. I just don't want that on a 13 hour flight from LAX to Taipei. And as I bunch up my flights on the same airline I can use the miles. EVAs mileage program is not as good as it used to be but every little bit helps

So in layman terms, it's just business class!

No, it's premium economy..

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I've flown Thai Airways and Eva to UK.

Both offer an excellent service and I have no complaints about anything.

The only advantage with Eva is, that they offer cheaper tickets.

Can't really understand what is all this bashing about Thai Airways........I think it's just a habit of certain TVF members.

Last time I flew Thai they still had no in-seat entertainment, just the old 1980's drop down screen, service and food were OK though. Should you want to spend a bit more then Eva's premium economy is best by far.

They have had seat back screens for a couple of years now.

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We always fly EVA, good food, nice people, and most important they have a upgrade to the Coach seats, I believe it's called Elite, about 300.00 US Dollar more, well worth it, more support, a bit longer & wider, plus reclines more, about 60 on each flight and they are located in there own area on the plane.

I just they would move, or at least alter, the metal box for the in flight entertainment which takes up a big chunk of foot space. Otherwise it is good. I would make this the bare minimum standard for long haul economy.

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We always fly EVA, good food, nice people, and most important they have a upgrade to the Coach seats, I believe it's called Elite, about 300.00 US Dollar more, well worth it, more support, a bit longer & wider, plus reclines more, about 60 on each flight and they are located in there own area on the plane.

I just they would move, or at least alter, the metal box for the in flight entertainment which takes up a big chunk of foot space. Otherwise it is good. I would make this the bare minimum standard for long haul economy.

Have a look at the seat guru website and you can see which seats don't have the player under the seat.

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I have travelled with Thai and Eva and both were very good. Eva seem to use much newer planes.( but less legroom in economy class ) The food wasn't very good on Eva and the staff had " The look of absolute misery " on there faces during the whole flight ( almost as miserable as some of our viewers on Thai Visa....) But Both Airlines were generally very good and far superior to British Airways too!

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Not my experience.

BA far more professional and - as long as you don't mind an abundance of gay flight attendants - the service is a few pips better.

Thai fails with the lack of individual in flight entertainment and (on my last flight with them) the staff seemed quite surly - much better on Thai domestic.

I am a big fan of EVA but I wish they would change those dowdy uniforms.

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Thai fails with the lack of individual in flight entertainment and (on my last flight with them) the staff seemed quite surly - much better on Thai domestic.

When did you last fly Thai and to where? I'm assuming the UK because of the BA reference, but Thai have modern cabins on the UK route now.

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Thai fails with the lack of individual in flight entertainment and (on my last flight with them) the staff seemed quite surly - much better on Thai domestic.

When did you last fly Thai and to where? I'm assuming the UK because of the BA reference, but Thai have modern cabins on the UK route now.

I accept it was a few years back - at least four.

Since then I have only made about one trip back to the UK each year and price was the major factor. Until last year EVA won easily, now BA are cheaper (and better IMO).

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Yes sorry one engine on each wing. Ive always felt safer with planes that have 2 on each wing because i always think well if 1 cuts out they can still fly... probably just me being silly lol

Plane can fly on one engine

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Yes, a commercial jet can certainly fly with one engine. But it is a slower flight with a very real risk of missing connecting flights,

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Yes sorry one engine on each wing. Ive always felt safer with planes that have 2 on each wing because i always think well if 1 cuts out they can still fly... probably just me being silly lol

Plane can fly on one engine

I think they could even land safely with no engine at all (if they find something that resembles a runway, that is)

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EVA beats Thai hands down IMO for both price and quality.

Book EVA, you will not fly Thai again.

Bang on!

I thought Thai Airways were OK until I tried Eva.

Eva plus = much newer planes, unless you pay the more expensive Thai schedule time flights. The cheaper Thai flights always seem to be on very old and tired 747's

Eva plus= cheaper fares

Eva plus = in my case - free upgrades on several occasions without even asking, turn up at check-in near the time it closes, smartly dressed and if they have overbooked economy which seems to be standard practice nowadays you have a good chance.

Eva minus = they aren't too free and easy with in flight alcoholic beverages - you need to pester them, unlike Thai Airways who are quite happy to ply you with enough to make you unconscious and thus less work for them for the rest of the flight ;-)

I would use EVA first choice every time now - unless I win the lotto and can afford Thai Silk or BA. But even in that case I would prolly still go for EVA 1st class

Quantas have a good rep too but I've heard that they aren't so good coming back from BKK to EU as their planes aren't that well cleaned at the BKK turnaround

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Yes, a commercial jet can certainly fly with one engine. But it is a slower flight with a very real risk of missing connecting flights,

The various ETOPS rules determine that a plane has to be able to fly a certain distance on one engine. Modern engines are so reliable that that distance is now great enough that twin jets can now cross the larger expanses of oceans as they don't need to stay within a short distance of an airport. But on 1 engine they can't climb well and usually have to descend, hence airliners typically avoiding the Himalayas, which they can clear quite comfortably. It also means they are less efficient and burn more fuel, thus reducing range.

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EVA beats Thai hands down IMO for both price and quality.

Book EVA, you will not fly Thai again.

Bang on!

I thought Thai Airways were OK until I tried Eva.

Eva plus = much newer planes, unless you pay the more expensive Thai schedule time flights. The cheaper Thai flights always seem to be on very old and tired 747's

Re the 747s, the older planes are refurbished first. The planes with the nice cabins are actually often older than the planes with the cruddier cabins!

My favourite spot on any plane I have flown so far is the front row of the upstairs business cabin on a Thai 747.. With no one next to you, it's like a quiet little room.

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uptheos, on 20 Jan 2015 - 09:48, said:

Never understood the obsession with food on flights.

Wot you mean mate ... like when you are hungry .............

laugh.png No of course not, but as long as they serve something edible I can survive my journey.

Best IMHO to book your flight departing from the west early evening - a meal and a few bevvies in departure and then a few more freebies once your airborne. Usually I then sleep most of the 12 hours and wake up in BKK and grab a nice fresh cooked 'breakfast' in Swampy mid afternoon.

Expecting airplane food to be anything more than barely edible is a bit overoptimistic - as uptheos says, it's to keep you alive, not provide a Michelin 3star dining experience..

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I would use EVA first choice every time now - unless I win the lotto and can afford Thai Silk or BA. But even in that case I would prolly still go for EVA 1st class

Quantas have a good rep too but I've heard that they aren't so good coming back from BKK to EU as their planes aren't that well cleaned at the BKK turnaround

I don't think Qantas fly BKK to Europe any more since they loved up with Emirates and ditched BA.

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EVA beats Thai hands down IMO for both price and quality.

Book EVA, you will not fly Thai again.

Bang on!

I thought Thai Airways were OK until I tried Eva.

Eva plus = much newer planes, unless you pay the more expensive Thai schedule time flights. The cheaper Thai flights always seem to be on very old and tired 747's

Re the 747s, the older planes are refurbished first. The planes with the nice cabins are actually often older than the planes with the cruddier cabins!

My favourite spot on any plane I have flown so far is the front row of the upstairs business cabin on a Thai 747.. With no one next to you, it's like a quiet little room.

I'm sure you are right - it would seem logical to refurb the very oldest first.

I wasn't suggesting that the old ones are more dangerous or anything else - just that the cheaper scheduled time flights always seem to be 747's rather than Airbus, and the cabins are always looking very tired and scruffy.

On the other hand I haven't been on an EVA flight yet - even an older 747 where the interior furnishings and service provisions were not in very good condition. Maybe I'm just lucky with Eva and chok mai dee with Thai ;-)

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I would use EVA first choice every time now - unless I win the lotto and can afford Thai Silk or BA. But even in that case I would prolly still go for EVA 1st class

Quantas have a good rep too but I've heard that they aren't so good coming back from BKK to EU as their planes aren't that well cleaned at the BKK turnaround

I don't think Qantas fly BKK to Europe any more since they loved up with Emirates and ditched BA.

Well a quick look just now shows Quantas flights from Manchester UK to BKK - but with a stopover in Dubai. It certainly doesn't look like they fly non-stop from LHR to BKK anymore which rules them out for me. Last thing I need on a 12 hour flight is to be grounded for 3 - 5 hours in a MIddle East airport half way.. Also Manchester is a non starter for me - I need LHR or Gatwick or I add another 4 hours to the journey.

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I would use EVA first choice every time now - unless I win the lotto and can afford Thai Silk or BA. But even in that case I would prolly still go for EVA 1st class

Quantas have a good rep too but I've heard that they aren't so good coming back from BKK to EU as their planes aren't that well cleaned at the BKK turnaround

I don't think Qantas fly BKK to Europe any more since they loved up with Emirates and ditched BA.

Well a quick look just now shows Quantas flights from Manchester UK to BKK - but with a stopover in Dubai. It certainly doesn't look like they fly non-stop from LHR to BKK anymore which rules them out for me. Last thing I need on a 12 hour flight is to be grounded for 3 - 5 hours in a MIddle East airport half way.. Also Manchester is a non starter for me - I need LHR or Gatwick or I add another 4 hours to the journey.

I think that might be a codeshare with Emirates. I feel the same about the Middle East thing. Especially late at night.

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I would use EVA first choice every time now - unless I win the lotto and can afford Thai Silk or BA. But even in that case I would prolly still go for EVA 1st class

Quantas have a good rep too but I've heard that they aren't so good coming back from BKK to EU as their planes aren't that well cleaned at the BKK turnaround

I don't think Qantas fly BKK to Europe any more since they loved up with Emirates and ditched BA.

Well a quick look just now shows Quantas flights from Manchester UK to BKK - but with a stopover in Dubai. It certainly doesn't look like they fly non-stop from LHR to BKK anymore which rules them out for me. Last thing I need on a 12 hour flight is to be grounded for 3 - 5 hours in a MIddle East airport half way.. Also Manchester is a non starter for me - I need LHR or Gatwick or I add another 4 hours to the journey.

EVA seem pretty modern. They just upgraded their premium cabins, so business is very modern. Unfortunately, they reduced leg room in Elite in the process. I avoid economy so haven't tried that yet.

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Is there a company that i could book through which allows to pay a deposit then installments towards the cost of a flight to Thailand? I do this when flying to Barbados but haven't seen any way of doing it to Thailand. I will check out westeast travel thanks

Use a credit card?

It will eat into your savings though.

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Ive booked with eva air this morning but through westeast travel and i cant log into eva air 'manage booking' and my mate just booked and said my seat still shows as available. Any idea why anyone?

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Eva don't fly my route.... SYD - BKK

I used Thai, as i quite often do, last time... It was a 747. refurbished and quite comfortable. Food was fine and the grog free flowing. The entertainment equipment was OK as well.

I don't buy the 1 month price thing with Thai... I have had 2 month tickets, that were cheaper than 10 day tickets. It all depends on what time of the year you are flying. Is it a holiday period in the place you are leaving? Is it high season at your destination... what about when you return home..... is it holiday time there? Is there a major sporting event going on? Are you travelling on a Friday? All that is taken into account.

As an aside.. There are 2 flights that leave SYD in the morning about 15 minutes apart. One, is QANTAS QF23, direct to BKK, and is an Airbus. The other TG476 is a 747. The QF leaves first, and the TG beats it into BKK by about 15 minutes... that is the way it is scheduled. The 747, is quicker, yet older... 30 minutes less in a plane gets my vote every time.

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