webfact Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Video shows man shot by New Jersey police raising his handsBy SEAN CARLIN and GEOFF MULVIHILLBRIDGETON, N.J. (AP) — With the dashboard camera in their cruiser rolling, police pulled a Jaguar over for running a stop sign on a dark night. But things suddenly turned tense when one of the officers warned his partner that he could see a gun in the glove compartment.Screaming over and over "Don't you f---ing move!" and "Show me your hands!" at the man in the passenger seat, the officer reached into the car and appeared to remove a silver handgun.Then, the passenger, despite being warned repeatedly not to move, stepped out of the Jaguar, his hands raised about shoulder level.The officers opened fire, killing him.The video of the Dec. 30 killing of Jerame Reid in Bridgeton, a struggling, mostly minority city of 25,000 people just south of Philadelphia, was released this week, raising questions and stirring anger over another death at the hands of police.The nearly two-minute deadly standoff came after the killings of black men in New York and Ferguson, Missouri, triggered months of turbulent protests, violence and calls for a re-examination of police use of force.Reid and the man driving the car were black. The Bridgeton officer who spotted the gun, Braheme Days, is black; his partner, Roger Worley, is white. Both officers have been placed on leave while prosecutors investigate."The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. "He complied with the officer and the officer shot him."A Philadelphia lawyer, Conrad Benedetto, said he has been hired by Reid's wife, Lawanda, to investigate. He said in a statement the footage "raises serious questions as to the legality and/or reasonableness of the officers' actions that night" because Reid was shot as he raised his hands.Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at three state troopers when he was a teenager. And Days knew who he was; Days was among the arresting officers last year when Reid was charged with several crimes, including drug possession and obstruction.In Bridgeton, where two-thirds of the residents are black or Hispanic, the killing has stirred small protests over the past couple of weeks, including a demonstration on Wednesday, a day after the video was made public at the request of two newspapers under the state's open records law.The Cumberland County prosecutor's office previously said a gun was seized during the stop but would not comment further on the investigation. Bridgeton police would not answer any questions about the video and said they opposed its release as neither "compassionate or professional."County prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae has disqualified herself from the case because she knows Days. But Lawanda Reid's lawyer and activists are demanding the state attorney general's office take over the investigation, something it said it will not do.In the video, the mood changes in a flash when Days tells his partner about the gun and starts yelling, "Show me your hands!" The driver, Leroy Tutt, raises his hands immediately. Reid does not at first.Days, still yelling, reaches into the car and appears to remove a gun."I'm going to shoot you," Days shouts, at one point addressing Reid by his first name. "You're going to be f---ing dead. If you reach for something, you're going to be f---ing dead."Days tells his partner, "He's reaching for something."Faintly on the video, Reid can be heard telling the officer, "I ain't doing nothing. I'm not reaching for nothing, bro. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing."Then one of the men in the car tells the officer, "I'm getting out and getting on the ground."The officer again orders Reid not to move. Seconds later, Reid emerges from the car, raising his hands, which appear to be empty. Both officers fire immediately, shooting at least six rounds.Bystanders start yelling at the officers, and other emergency vehicles arrive.The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed.___Mulvihill reported from Haddonfield, New Jersey.-- (c) Associated Press 2015-01-22
Popular Post chaiyapoon Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 If this report is truely factual why would you move when told not to by police with drawn guns? Seems to have cost his life anyway.The officiers weren't going to take any chances and unless you were there watching this occur we don't really know how this happened.Just too many people carrying weapons in the Usa as a whole. 3
Popular Post Prbkk Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 Taking this as written it sounds like a cold-blooded execution. 9
mania Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/22/dashboard-camera-video-shows-man-shot-by-nj-police-raising-his-hands/ At one point one cop does say get them out of the car. ( first link) But the cop on the passengers side is quite hyper & did say quite a few times dont move. But it is obvious the passenger side cop is very nervous/hyper also he seems to know the passenger as he calls him by his name.... Jerame
Popular Post Rumblecat Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. People who get that nervous and excitable probably shouldn't be a police officer, much less ever be allowed near a firearm. 6
EyesWideOpen Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Holy crap !!!!!! That one policeman is a frigging lunatic. He must have been high on something.... 1
ezzra Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 So now the T-shirts with hand raised will sell good no doubt, waiting to see all those athletes raising their hand when they paying area... and Samuel L. Jackson singing about 'freedom'
Johnnie99 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I thought raising one's hands was the new-age way of saying "Shoot me! Shoot me!" It works best if you are a dark shade of white. That's what many American policemen seem to think, anyway. 1
rethaier Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 If this report is truely factual why would you move when told not to by police with drawn guns? Seems to have cost his life anyway.The officiers weren't going to take any chances and unless you were there watching this occur we don't really know how this happened.Just too many people carrying weapons in the Usa as a whole. But not too many carrying guns in Thailand I suppose.
Emster23 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Even though told not to move, seems raised hands while coming out of car not what I would call "life threatening" to police officers. A little bit of sense seems to be lacking in judgement to say the least: for all they knew, the two in car may not speak English. Sorry, but this Mae West line came to mind "Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?".
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 The passenger had a weapon in his possession and despite being warned repeatedly not to move, stepped out of the car. It sounds like the policeman overreacted, but it is not too difficult to see why. There have been a lot of attacks on policemen lately and it sounds like a bad area. 3
kieran2698 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 If this report is truely factual why would you move when told not to by police with drawn guns? Seems to have cost his life anyway.The officiers weren't going to take any chances and unless you were there watching this occur we don't really know how this happened.Just too many people carrying weapons in the Usa as a whole. Many people get simple instructions wrong when they are distracted and when they are stressed, it's very possible that he thought he was doing exactly as he was told. 1
SiSePuede419 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 "Stop resisting" By getting out of the car with your hands up...
cup-O-coffee Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. People who get that nervous and excitable probably shouldn't be a police officer, much less ever be allowed near a firearm. How about "Being a police officer in a predominantly black slum, rundown ghetto neighborhood (is there any other kind in general?) gets a police officer to be that way"... and for clear reasons that no one siding with blacks on this issue wish to discuss or to even be on the table for discussion. Perhaps you should also be asking yourself why this is happening in an ever increasing manner, and also take a look at the unreasonable, lop-sided logic (and lack thereof) in how this is being swept under the rug. The police are bad when they shoot a black with a gun, and the black refuses to listen and comply, and everyone forgets that the insolent black was going somewhere with that gun before the police even had cause to stop him. Where was he going? Is that really important anymore when one considers the statistics on pandemic black crime in the USA? You can mitigate it all you want, but it won't change the truth that no one will address outside of social media and forums like this.
PepperMe Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 As long as the police are going to be found not guilty of any wrongdoing, this is going to occur all the time in the USA. The police there have full immunity, this encourages these extra judicial executions. Eventually it is going to be one too many and that country is going to erupt. In a country with as many guns as there are over there..... It is NOT going to be a pretty sight when it all kicks off. 1
retarius Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 US police...arrogant racist thugs....nit much else to say. 1
eastcanje Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. People who get that nervous and excitable probably shouldn't be a police officer, much less ever be allowed near a firearm. How about "Being a police officer in a predominantly black slum, rundown ghetto neighborhood (is there any other kind in general?) gets a police officer to be that way"... and for clear reasons that no one siding with blacks on this issue wish to discuss or to even be on the table for discussion. Perhaps you should also be asking yourself why this is happening in an ever increasing manner, and also take a look at the unreasonable, lop-sided logic (and lack thereof) in how this is being swept under the rug. The police are bad when they shoot a black with a gun, and the black refuses to listen and comply, and everyone forgets that the insolent black was going somewhere with that gun before the police even had cause to stop him. Where was he going? Is that really important anymore when one considers the statistics on pandemic black crime in the USA? You can mitigate it all you want, but it won't change the truth that no one will address outside of social media and forums like this. Speaking of "...pandemic black crime in the USA", do you really know what the statistics are? Do you know what the statistics of "white crime" are? To be facetious, perhaps black people carry guns as protection against those folks dressed in white sheets and hoods whose main purposes (for over a hundred years) seem to be burning crosses on other people's property, and lynching people who look different from themselves!
hard124get Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Between 2010 and 2014 the police force of one small American city, Albuquerque in New Mexico, shot and killed 23 civilians; seven times more than the number of Brits killed by all of England and Wales’s 43 forces during the same period. Land of the free?
sential Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Thats a cold blooded execution regardless of any provocation, of which there was only someone exiting a car clearly unarmed and with arms in air. You'd have to be retarded to think there was any justification for this murder 1
Popular Post cup-O-coffee Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. People who get that nervous and excitable probably shouldn't be a police officer, much less ever be allowed near a firearm. How about "Being a police officer in a predominantly black slum, rundown ghetto neighborhood (is there any other kind in general?) gets a police officer to be that way"... and for clear reasons that no one siding with blacks on this issue wish to discuss or to even be on the table for discussion. Perhaps you should also be asking yourself why this is happening in an ever increasing manner, and also take a look at the unreasonable, lop-sided logic (and lack thereof) in how this is being swept under the rug. The police are bad when they shoot a black with a gun, and the black refuses to listen and comply, and everyone forgets that the insolent black was going somewhere with that gun before the police even had cause to stop him. Where was he going? Is that really important anymore when one considers the statistics on pandemic black crime in the USA? You can mitigate it all you want, but it won't change the truth that no one will address outside of social media and forums like this. Speaking of "...pandemic black crime in the USA", do you really know what the statistics are? Do you know what the statistics of "white crime" are? To be facetious, perhaps black people carry guns as protection against those folks dressed in white sheets and hoods whose main purposes (for over a hundred years) seem to be burning crosses on other people's property, and lynching people who look different from themselves! As a matter of fact, eastcanje, I do know a bit of the statistics, as follows: According to the 2010 National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) done by the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) under the Department of Justice (DOJ): 62,596 Blacks were the victim of White violence, while 320,082 Whites were the victim of Black violence. With those numbers, Blacks committed 5x more violence against Whites than Whites do against Blacks. But this figure is misleading because the population for Whites and Blacks are not the same... There are 197,000,000 Non-Hispanic WHites in the US making up 63.7% of the population. There are 38,000,000 Blacks in the US making up 12.6% of the population. What this means is - when adjusted for population size - Blacks commit 25x more violent assaults than Whites do against Blacks. And when it comes to a specific kind of assault... Aggravated Assault, the rate for Blacks is 200x higher against whites than it is for Whites against Blacks. Is there an epidemic of racial tension and violence in this country against Blacks? I don't know... you tell me. Fact: Though only 12% of the population, Blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 72% of the population, and take 30.5% of the total. http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/leavers99/race.htm#fig1 Fact: Though only 12% of the population, Blacks take 38% os taxpayer subsidized housing. http://www.huduser.org/datasets/assthsg/statedata96/descript.htm Fact: Blacks are responsible for 40.8% of all domestic violence cases, despite being only 13% of the population. See page 28: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/vi.pdf Fact: 28% of black males go to jail, vs. 4.4% of white males. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/LLGSFP.PR Fact: Blacks are four times more likely to kill their children. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/children.cfm#kidsrts Fact: Blacks were seven times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 2005 http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm Fact: Black teens comprise only 15% of all U.S. teenagers but were 70% of all new AIDS diognosis in 2012, according to CDC http://www.louisianaweekly.com/hivaids-take-heavy-toll-on-black-youth/ Fact: Only 25% of black males are graduating in New York State, and in New York City which has the lagest black enrollment, only 28% graduates http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2010/08/only-47-percent-of-black-males-graduate-high-school-whats-happening/ Fact: Research shows that black women, many living in Atlanta, are being infected with HIV - so much to that the new cases are being cmpared to African countries. http://www.11alive.com/news/article/240913/3/HIV-crisis-facing-black-women-in-metro-Atlanta Fact: Blacks are 54 percent of the population of Atlanta but are responsible for: 100 percent of homicide 95 percent of rape 94 percent of robbery 84 percent of aggravated assault 93 percent of burglary APD Uniform Crime Reports, Apr 2011 to Apr 2012 http://www.atlantapd.org/uniformcrimereports.aspx Crime in USA 2011 Total Murders committed by blacks in 2011: 2925 Total Murders committed by whites in 2011: 2823 White victims of black murders: 448 Black victims of white murders: 193 Murdering rate for blacks 7.1 / 100,000 Murdering rate for whites 1.3 / 100,000 Victimhood rate for blacks: 6.7 / 100,000 Victimhood rate for whites: 1.3 / 100,000 Rate of black on black murder: 84%% of all murders committed by blacks Rate of white on white murder: 93%% of all murders committed by whites Rate of black on white murder: 15% of all murders committed by blacks Rate of white on black murder: 6% of all murders committed by whites Conclusions: Blacks are 7x more likely to murder than whites Blacks are 5x more likely to be murdered than whites Blacks are 2x more likely to murder a white than to be murdered by a white Blacks though representing 13% of the data set committed over 50% of the murders Numbers are arrived at using rounded percentages. National population was rounded to 13% Black, and 78% White. The 78% White includes Hispanic because that is how the FBI tracks murder statistics... worth noting that this inflates White crime rates. Raw data used: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6 http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43 So... what if Black people left the USA? The prison population would go down by 27% There would be almost 50% less gang members Rape would go down significantly Overweight and obesity percentage would go down by 10% Average IQ would go up by 7 points, putting the USA tied for third with Japan SAT scores would go up by about 100 points ACT scores would go up by 5.5 points AIDS and HIV would go down by 67% Chlamydia cases would go down 50% Gonorrhea cases would go down by 58% Syphilis would go down by 58% The average income of the country would be 20k or more per year The amount of people in poverty would go down by over 30% Homelessness would go down by 57% And the number of welfare recipients wuold go down by about 40% Sources: http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1 http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-re/ http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/NonToolbarTopics/IdeologicalQuiz/Quiz-3-Commentary/IdeolQuiz_Answer_02.html http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/ http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/gonorrhea.htm http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/syphilis.htm http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/chlamydia.htm http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0697.pdf http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/ http://homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/demographics http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171 http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d10/tables/dt10_155.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... and that is for a beginning, eastcanje.... How about you? Do you have the statistics that describe your point of view? Respect! 7
sential Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Wow, cup-o-coffee, how much does your annual KKK membership cost out of interest? 1
Popular Post CMNightRider Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 I see the usual group of police haters showed up. I viewed the video, and couldn't tell anything from it. It should be interesting to see exactly what happened for the police to shoot the guy. I think before posting stupid comments, it may be better to read about the outcome of the investigation before jumping to conclusions. I remember one poster during the Ferguson incident, making post after post about the police officer being a "Dirty Harry" cop, whatever that is suppose to mean. That incident turned out, the officer wasn't at fault and acted according to the law. Imagine that. 3
Chicog Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed. Of course they were.
Popular Post CMNightRider Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 Wow, cup-o-coffee, how much does your annual KKK membership cost out of interest? Wow sential, why would you insinuate this poster belongs to the KKK? Cup-o-coffee posted some interesting facts about crime in America, and factual statistics in regards to the percentage of crimes blacks commit. There is nothing racist about that. 5
daveAustin Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Blasts him at 1:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDujAtrWGM Don't get me wrong here, but I guess it helps some (regards the current issue with white cops and black criminals) that the main shooter was a black man.
CMNightRider Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Blasts him at 1:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDujAtrWGM Don't get me wrong here, but I guess it helps some (regards the current issue with white cops and black criminals) that the main shooter was a black man. To normal adults it doesn't matter if the policer officer was white, black, or asian. Liberals tend to have this misconception, white police officers go around looking for black people to shoot. OMG, where do these people come from? 2
lostlink Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 "Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at three state troopers when he was a teenager." Good call on the police officer. It wouldn't surprise me if Reid got his hands on the gun, he would have likely shot the police. 2
Popular Post F430murci Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. People who get that nervous and excitable probably shouldn't be a police officer, much less ever be allowed near a firearm. How about "Being a police officer in a predominantly black slum, rundown ghetto neighborhood (is there any other kind in general?) gets a police officer to be that way"... and for clear reasons that no one siding with blacks on this issue wish to discuss or to even be on the table for discussion. Perhaps you should also be asking yourself why this is happening in an ever increasing manner, and also take a look at the unreasonable, lop-sided logic (and lack thereof) in how this is being swept under the rug. The police are bad when they shoot a black with a gun, and the black refuses to listen and comply, and everyone forgets that the insolent black was going somewhere with that gun before the police even had cause to stop him. Where was he going? Is that really important anymore when one considers the statistics on pandemic black crime in the USA? You can mitigate it all you want, but it won't change the truth that no one will address outside of social media and forums like this. Speaking of "...pandemic black crime in the USA", do you really know what the statistics are? Do you know what the statistics of "white crime" are? To be facetious, perhaps black people carry guns as protection against those folks dressed in white sheets and hoods whose main purposes (for over a hundred years) seem to be burning crosses on other people's property, and lynching people who look different from themselves! Lol, that is about as dumb of a statement as I have read in a long while on here. People wearing sheets and hoods, burning crosses and lynching? This is ground control to Major Tom . . . Time to put your helmet on and come back down to earth. Do you also think that Genghis Khan is still roaming the land raping and pillaging? Wasn't is black cop who shot this black criminal that had a history of shooting at cops? Did cops over react? Hard to say unless you are in their position and see exactly how suspect is acting. Maybe this was excessive force, but hard to say without seeing exactly what guy was doing inside car. 3
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