chooka Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If there is no amnesty dear leader will not get the remaining 6% of the population to love and worship him. If they do give her amnesty then she can run in the election in 11 months time and they don't want that as she will probably win. He has to ask himself does he want the last 6% or retain total power and control over what he already has. Taking lessons from the parrot and his cohorts are we? What do mean? I am sorry I haven't praised Yingluk but never agreed with her scheme from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? What a stupid question, it's legal, the King endorsed and approved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The opposition to the current incumbents don't need Yingluck et al come "genuine" elections they will walk it whoever they have at their head. No amnesty, criminal charges etc, that is the best route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 "Singthong also insisted that Pheu Thai Party would not mobilize its supporters to protest the impeachment or any other verdict against Yingluck." Mmmmm ... let's wait and see how long that actually lasts ... I'm betting before the end of this year, if not much, much sooner. It'll start in the social media, veiled hints and veiled threats and with a big propaganda campaign saying how unfair it was for them to pick on the honest Shinawatra family again. They'll have to keep a rein on Jatuporn tho, he talks/boasts too much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyinNE Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 If there is no amnesty dear leader will not get the remaining 6% of the population to love and worship him. If they do give her amnesty then she can run in the election in 11 months time and they don't want that as she will probably win. He has to ask himself does he want the last 6% or retain total power and control over what he already has. When counting the 6% it might be interesting to consider martial law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What a ridiculous suggestion as everyone knows that amnesties are only for generals who overthrow governments chosen by the people. oh yes chosen by the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireboy Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 No no no! Man up and stand by your illegal military junta decision ! No deals let the world see you for what you really are. And throw her ass in jail! You've stacked the deck got the kangaroo court so bloody use it! No sense in handing out amnesties while you have all this power! Throw all PTP members and their supporters in jail and then hold an election then you might just get the yellows over the line but I doubt it. lets not forget the stellar job PTP made of reconciling the people and running the country ..... right ? I hope that every last one of them that pocketed one illegally gained satang (from all sides) are convicted locked up and banned for life I doubt there would be anyone left on either side of the fence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 She still looks hot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 She still looks hot! wow you set your bar way too low...poor eyesight it is then... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Reconciliation depending on the amnesty of an Amply Rich woman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post binjalin Posted January 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) Just an idle thought, but if they do give her an amnesty, does that mean Djaime, Rubl, Costas and co will spend the next couple of months living in a tent on Asok? one can only hope but who would be the leader? DJamie pontificating about the 'Principals of Democracy' while supporting an unelected military junta? maybe he could read them a bedtime story every night (once upon a time there was a General...) or Rubl pretending to be a nice, kind Dutch Uncle while he is economical with the truth and obfuscates his support for the anti-democracy movement? maybe he could pretend the tent was his personal fiefdom or Costas who seems to think a Greeks got it wrong when they introduced Democracy to the world and is under the illusion the good General comes bearing gifts? maybe he could relate the Thai version of the Illiads with Generals replacing Hector, Archilles etc. Edited January 25, 2015 by binjalin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The opposition to the current incumbents don't need Yingluck et al come "genuine" elections they will walk it whoever they have at their head. No amnesty, criminal charges etc, that is the best route. Yes, yes, they could even probably just use telephone poles - Thaksin said it would work before and he''s never ever wrong. Power to the people ........................... especially those that are more equal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just an idle thought, but if they do give her an amnesty, does that mean Djaime, Rubl, Costas and co will spend the next couple of months living in a tent on Asok? one can only hope but who would be the leader? DJamie pontificating about the 'Principals of Democracy' while supporting an unelected military junta? maybe he could read them a bedtime story every night (once upon a time there was a General...) or Rubl pretending to be a nice, kind Dutch Uncle while he is economical with the truth and obfuscates his support for the anti-democracy movement? maybe he could pretend the tent was his personal fiefdom or Costas who seems to think a Greeks got it wrong when they introduced Democracy to the world and is under the illusion the good General comes bearing gifts? maybe he could relate the Thai version of the Illiads with Generals replacing Hector, Archilles etc. Economical with the truth? Khun Rubl usually seems very thorough with it. Unlike the Shin fan club - known for telling a few 'white lies" in the fashion of their leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just an idle thought, but if they do give her an amnesty, does that mean Djaime, Rubl, Costas and co will spend the next couple of months living in a tent on Asok? one can only hope but who would be the leader? DJamie pontificating about the 'Principals of Democracy' while supporting an unelected military junta? maybe he could read them a bedtime story every night (once upon a time there was a General...) or Rubl pretending to be a nice, kind Dutch Uncle while he is economical with the truth and obfuscates his support for the anti-democracy movement? maybe he could pretend the tent was his personal fiefdom or Costas who seems to think a Greeks got it wrong when they introduced Democracy to the world and is under the illusion the good General comes bearing gifts? maybe he could relate the Thai version of the Illiads with Generals replacing Hector, Archilles etc. Even under the previous 'democratic' government it was already forbidden for foreigners to pitch tents on Asok. Personally I would be terribly disappointed if the NCPO waved aside the impeachment. Mind you after all the problems some allege they went through to stack the deck against the Amply Rich woman, waving aside the impeachment seems unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just an idle thought, but if they do give her an amnesty, does that mean Djaime, Rubl, Costas and co will spend the next couple of months living in a tent on Asok? one can only hope but who would be the leader? DJamie pontificating about the 'Principals of Democracy' while supporting an unelected military junta? maybe he could read them a bedtime story every night (once upon a time there was a General...) or Rubl pretending to be a nice, kind Dutch Uncle while he is economical with the truth and obfuscates his support for the anti-democracy movement? maybe he could pretend the tent was his personal fiefdom or Costas who seems to think a Greeks got it wrong when they introduced Democracy to the world and is under the illusion the good General comes bearing gifts? maybe he could relate the Thai version of the Illiads with Generals replacing Hector, Archilles etc. I would rather risk a week on koh tao than spend an minute in that tent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lucky11 Posted January 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? The current coup is not illegal!! It was done to stop the 'red shirts' killing people and to stop the incompetent rabble posing as government trying to run the country into the ground - done purely in pursuance of their own and Thaksin's (of course) personal interests and dark agenda. It (the coup) was carried out because it was in the best interests of the nation - in order to stop the bombings and killings and return badly needed peace and stability to Thailand (which has now been accomplished). If invading foreign lands to protect your country's energy supply and to dictate and attempt to impose the form of government they wish on them is legal then this military coup is more than justified. The coup is not democratic, granted, but the previous 'Yingluck' government was not even close to being democratic either. Too much emphasis is put onto democracy being the ideal form of government. I personally see the importance and relevance of democracy as overrated and furthermore, view it as a flawed system of governance (particularly in the case of Thailand). It is far better off as it is now under a benign dictatorship rather than being exploited by a bunch of corrupt thieves that couldn't care a toss about the people. On that, Prayuth cares deeply about Thailand and it's people and is sincere in what he does which is light years away from the Shinawatras 'exploitation' of poor and gullible people in order to carry out the rape and pillage of this once proud nation!!! . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 She still looks hot! An old saying goes "You don't how truly ugly a woman is until you see her in court." Enlightenment is coming, soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 No no no! Man up and stand by your illegal military junta decision ! No deals let the world see you for what you really are. And throw her ass in jail! You've stacked the deck got the kangaroo court so bloody use it! No sense in handing out amnesties while you have all this power! Throw all PTP members and their supporters in jail and then hold an election then you might just get the yellows over the line but I doubt it. This looks like a very prejudiced view of events. Colourful but probably way off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 She still looks hot! An old saying goes "You don't how truly ugly a woman is until you see her in court." Enlightenment is coming, soon. Doubt it! Stupidity often ellipses ugliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? The current coup is not illegal!! It was done to stop the 'red shirts' killing people and to stop the incompetent rabble posing as government trying to run the country into the ground - done purely in pursuance of their own and Thaksin's (of course) personal interests and dark agenda. It (the coup) was carried out because it was in the best interests of the nation - in order to stop the bombings and killings and return badly needed peace and stability to Thailand (which has now been accomplished). If invading foreign lands to protect your country's energy supply and to dictate and attempt to impose the form of government they wish on them is legal then this military coup is more than justified. The coup is not democratic, granted, but the previous 'Yingluck' government was not even close to being democratic either. Too much emphasis is put onto democracy being the ideal form of government. I personally see the importance and relevance of democracy as overrated and furthermore, view it as a flawed system of governance (particularly in the case of Thailand). It is far better off as it is now under a benign dictatorship rather than being exploited by a bunch of corrupt thieves that couldn't care a toss about the people. On that, Prayuth cares deeply about Thailand and it's people and is sincere in what he does which is light years away from the Shinawatras 'exploitation' of poor and gullible people in order to carry out the rape and pillage of this once proud nation!!! . Actually, it was illegal under the 2007 constitution. Just because you agree with it does not change that fact. Section 68 A person is prohibited from using the rights and liberties provided in the Constitution to overthrow the democratic rule with the King as the Head of the State as provided by this Constitution; or to acquire power to rule the country by means other than is provided in the Constitution. That is why the interim constitution had to grant amnesty to the generals for past acts, and why they created Section 44 that makes all future acts legal. It is basically moot if the coup is successful, but if not successful, the coup makers would face treason charges. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 A headline on the front page of "Thailand's other English language newspaper" says this" "Yingluck will be allowed to travel if she wishes". Isn't that a hint? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? 25 August 2014 Thai king endorses coup leader Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha as prime ministerIf anyone says he is illegal, you could be charged with lese majeste So you should stop your stuttering and man up and enjoy the ride. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Ironic, a foreigner (one assumes) threatening another foreigner with Thailands Lese Majesty laws, because he disagrees with him! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimbc Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I see the only way YL would get amnesty is to admit that her brother TS actually made most of the decisions. And that she was just a puppet PM. Don't see any logic in that statement. If she verbally openly admitted the paymaster made all the decisions she would surely be in even more hot water, not closer to amnesty. Amnesty is used for really odd circumstances. And usually for some one who is willing to accept wrong doing. In YL case, she was duped by her brother and her party to be the fall person. But I must admit TS is smart to make her sister the poster child in order to garner sympathy from her supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 All this whimpering is not moving the country forward. Clip a few wings and move on otherwise Thailand is again bogged down in forgive and forget, turn the other cheek, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 A headline on the front page of "Thailand's other English language newspaper" says this" "Yingluck will be allowed to travel if she wishes". Isn't that a hint? With condition... ...One-Way Ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wonder if William Hill the bookies are quoting odds on this,would put a few quid on it NOT happening. and I am not a gambler. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 my gut feel is that the NACC are going to leave no stone unturned and will be swift and ruthless to bring the wrong doers to the courts and justice, it would also seem to me that they are able to pursue these cases because there is nobody threatening them with violence and intimidation has stopped and they have the full backing of the current PM and administration - quite frankly it is good to see and a breath of fresh air - there is a message to all those people who chose to break the law - you are not getting away with it this time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? The current coup is not illegal!! It was done to stop the 'red shirts' killing people and to stop the incompetent rabble posing as government trying to run the country into the ground - done purely in pursuance of their own and Thaksin's (of course) personal interests and dark agenda. It (the coup) was carried out because it was in the best interests of the nation - in order to stop the bombings and killings and return badly needed peace and stability to Thailand (which has now been accomplished). If invading foreign lands to protect your country's energy supply and to dictate and attempt to impose the form of government they wish on them is legal then this military coup is more than justified. The coup is not democratic, granted, but the previous 'Yingluck' government was not even close to being democratic either. Too much emphasis is put onto democracy being the ideal form of government. I personally see the importance and relevance of democracy as overrated and furthermore, view it as a flawed system of governance (particularly in the case of Thailand). It is far better off as it is now under a benign dictatorship rather than being exploited by a bunch of corrupt thieves that couldn't care a toss about the people. On that, Prayuth cares deeply about Thailand and it's people and is sincere in what he does which is light years away from the Shinawatras 'exploitation' of poor and gullible people in order to carry out the rape and pillage of this once proud nation!!! . Actually, it was illegal under the 2007 constitution. Just because you agree with it does not change that fact. Section 68 A person is prohibited from using the rights and liberties provided in the Constitution to overthrow the democratic rule with the King as the Head of the State as provided by this Constitution; or to acquire power to rule the country by means other than is provided in the Constitution. That is why the interim constitution had to grant amnesty to the generals for past acts, and why they created Section 44 that makes all future acts legal. It is basically moot if the coup is successful, but if not successful, the coup makers would face treason charges. If the country was being governed properly without mass corruption being knowingly allowed to proliferate and the government was ruling by a fair manner without bias to any particular grouping or region and uses democratic means to achieve this, then yes it was illegal. But............................. To be honest, I couldn't care about the legality of it - it has happened and by god, isn't Thailand a better place for it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Smedley I will ask you a simple question . Is the current military junta legal or not illegal? Now if it's illegal why should anyone on either side of politics abide by their decisions ? The current coup is not illegal!! It was done to stop the 'red shirts' killing people and to stop the incompetent rabble posing as government trying to run the country into the ground - done purely in pursuance of their own and Thaksin's (of course) personal interests and dark agenda. It (the coup) was carried out because it was in the best interests of the nation - in order to stop the bombings and killings and return badly needed peace and stability to Thailand (which has now been accomplished). If invading foreign lands to protect your country's energy supply and to dictate and attempt to impose the form of government they wish on them is legal then this military coup is more than justified. The coup is not democratic, granted, but the previous 'Yingluck' government was not even close to being democratic either. Too much emphasis is put onto democracy being the ideal form of government. I personally see the importance and relevance of democracy as overrated and furthermore, view it as a flawed system of governance (particularly in the case of Thailand). It is far better off as it is now under a benign dictatorship rather than being exploited by a bunch of corrupt thieves that couldn't care a toss about the people. On that, Prayuth cares deeply about Thailand and it's people and is sincere in what he does which is light years away from the Shinawatras 'exploitation' of poor and gullible people in order to carry out the rape and pillage of this once proud nation!!! . Actually, it was illegal under the 2007 constitution. Just because you agree with it does not change that fact. Section 68 A person is prohibited from using the rights and liberties provided in the Constitution to overthrow the democratic rule with the King as the Head of the State as provided by this Constitution; or to acquire power to rule the country by means other than is provided in the Constitution. That is why the interim constitution had to grant amnesty to the generals for past acts, and why they created Section 44 that makes all future acts legal. It is basically moot if the coup is successful, but if not successful, the coup makers would face treason charges. If the country was being governed properly without mass corruption being knowingly allowed to proliferate and the government was ruling by a fair manner without bias to any particular grouping or region and uses democratic means to achieve this, then yes it was illegal. But............................. To be honest, I couldn't care about the legality of it - it has happened and by god, isn't Thailand a better place for it!!!! Your attitude basically reflects the hypocrisy of the current government. Rule of law, but only when convenient, which basically goes against every precept of rule of law. If you look at the current state of the economy, not really a better place. And martial law holding the peace will not last if the junta continues with one sided reforms and prosecutions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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