fasteddie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 wow another piece of 'non-discrimination'? No, the time for justice has come for some politicians that avoided the law for years. Jesus you are some piece of work Costas It is clear its a witchhunt the public prosecutor DECLINED TO PROSECUTE so they are going to do it themselves as time continues there is less and less credability for this government that took over at the point of a gun under the guise they are indpendant of any color LOL its very clear who is back at the reigns by having to use the GUN because they could never get in by the VOTE. yes they took over at the point of a gun..because chalem had all the guns firing at the protesters ..your memory selective again..at least try to be honest or dont bother posting biased remarks ok.. ."because chalem had all the guns firing at the protesters" and you call him dishonest, what a crock of s**t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing I think the correct term is "Purge". I see your "purge", and raise you a "Proscription". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Doesn't matter which country your in. To the average person of voting age it's irrelevant to that person if they vote one way or the other. I've seen it time and time again in Australia. The politician's say "every vote counts" and I am sure it does get counted, but if it's in a blue ribbon Liberal seat the Liberal candidate will win which ever way you vote! Same for Labour seats. Your vote will only have value if it is a tightly contested seat where it may come down to a few votes.....and that's only sometimes. After the election you will be forgotten. Joe Public doesn't get a look in. It will be 2.5 years before you again hear "every vote counts". What happens in those 2.5 years is you will have a collection of politicians all the same whether they wear a Blue button or a Red one. They are often mates who eat together, drink together and sometimes play together. Sure they put on a show for the public, it's called a session of parliament! But in the corridors of parliament and backrooms there are opportunities to help your mates of whatever colour. In Asian countries that mateship exists. It would be naive to think opportunites (call it what you may) aren't offered or received. If the lid was blown off the pot of the dirty business of political opportunities I am sure all those claiming to be working towards peace and happiness of the people would be covered in the same muck as all the others. So, when somchai gets to vote in a future election.......it won't matter a d@mn thing as everything will still work the same way.....but different! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Two words... Airport Takeover Two words...Protest .....Peaceful (relatively by the Yellows as I recall) what's with this myth about the yellow shirts being peaceful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) wow another piece of 'non-discrimination'? No, the time for justice has come for some politicians that avoided the law for years. Jesus you are some piece of work Costas It is clear its a witchhunt the public prosecutor DECLINED TO PROSECUTE so they are going to do it themselves as time continues there is less and less credability for this government that took over at the point of a gun under the guise they are indpendant of any color LOL its very clear who is back at the reigns by having to use the GUN because they could never get in by the VOTE. He's a Fascist......used to being told when and where to squat. Edited February 8, 2015 by Thaiready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 There's no favoritism being shown here. Meanwhile Suthep still doesn't even need to answer questions. Now don't get me wrong, it's fine to investigate cases like this. But when it's one side being investigated in all cases, but there is plenty to go around on both sides, it's pretty obvious. Obviously it takes time for all cases to evolve. This is from 2008. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What about the former Prime minister for the crack down on the red shirt protests??????????? Fair is Fair!!!!!!! With this timeline of processing cases from 2008, expect the 2010 case to occur two years from now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I am totally aware, that the "red shirts" are no saints either, but but, but... Edited February 8, 2015 by Zefter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Two words... Airport Takeover Two words...Protest .....Peaceful (relatively by the Yellows as I recall) what's with this myth about the yellow shirts being peaceful? As MAJIC stated, relative to the actions of the red shirts, the yellow shirts are peaceful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 That's reconciliation comrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Two words... Airport Takeover Two words...Protest .....Peaceful (relatively by the Yellows as I recall) what's with this myth about the yellow shirts being peaceful? As MAJIC stated, relative to the actions of the red shirts, the yellow shirts are peaceful. nah, that's just nonsense. violence is violence. it's not "relative" to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 so the PM ousted in 2014 will be prosecuted. and the PM ousted in 2008 will be prosecuted. Why skip the PM that came in between? ah, never mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It is clear that this is a puppet government run in the background by the wealthy elite. Perhaps the Shinawatra faction won't specifically for a new party but eventually the power will return to the people (Red Shirts) because the pen is mightier than the sword. At that point there will be a price to be paid by the Yellow Shirts but I hope it is not violent vengeance but a proper democracy. The world is changing, the pendulum is swinging back to the left where there is more sharing and Thailand will have to become a part of the change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Some posts with messed up quotes have been removed. Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmac10 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing Yes it is finally the shins are getting their medicine. When this is all over they won't be able to form a party anymore as all the players have lifetime bans for their crimes. When they were in power they tried the same.. now the tables are turned and the other party is far better at it. Wow, you really believe that? Seriously? You don't think the majority of the Thai population don't understand what is going on and are keeping their powder dry? The pushback will be very nasty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Valentine Posted February 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2015 Faulty tear gas canisters killing 2 = guilty. (even though most reports show the 'Nong Bow' was carrying an explosive device which blew up) Fully armed war weapons killing 9 = OK The outright bias and injustice of this administration will come back to haunt them. The only people they are endearing themselves to are the elite, TV trolls like Costas & fellow generals. To all those who are talking about selective justice in relation to 2008 & 2010 why do you all conveniently forget that Abhisit & Suthep are already facing charges for the deaths of protesters in 2010 & both have stated they will fight the case in court & not run away. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) If a manifestation try to close ANY Public or Government building in most Democratic countries, for ANY reason, will face strong Police action. I was surprised that last year the Yellows were doing that without any response from Yinluck Government. My impression was that Yinluck was restraining her power, or she didn't have any support from the Police......or...that was just common lawless political thainess. If this was the case, no real Democracy will work in Thailand. Parties will prefer demonstrations and violence, rather than dialog. If Prayut is thinking in become elected PM, what he will do in similar situation?......Ask the Police to arrest the agitators, and wait that it will happens some day..or never.....or put the Army and the Police on the streets to enforce the law in any legal way, even with violence if necessary? Edited February 9, 2015 by umbanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) There are a lot of very angry people in Thailand and I can't see that this sort of "legal" action is going to reconcile any of them with the current regime. In all the coups and other unrest since 1932 the Thais have avoided massive bloodshed - despite cruelty and civil rights abuse - largely because the army has had all the guns but as we come to the end of an era one wonders how these strong-arm tactics will help to create a secure democratic future for the country. Edited February 9, 2015 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Two words... Airport Takeover Two words...Protest .....Peaceful (relatively by the Yellows as I recall) what's with this myth about the yellow shirts being peaceful? He clearly used the qualifier "relatively". Over time they certainly defended themselves more aggressively but with the mitigation of constant attacks by the redshirts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I guess Nick Nostitz will have a lot to say in defence of Somchai. He was there and published a piece where he asserted that the police did absolutely the right thing in firing the exploding tear gas bombs directly at the protestors. I was under the impression he had moved back to Germany to recover from post-traumatic stress disorder after being unfairly harassed and intimidated by yellow shirts but he was spotted at the FCCT a couple of weeks ago. obvious to anyone who has read / can read, he never said any such thing. So where is your link to the article so we can read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing Yes it is finally the shins are getting their medicine. When this is all over they won't be able to form a party anymore as all the players have lifetime bans for their crimes. When they were in power they tried the same.. now the tables are turned and the other party is far better at it. Wow, you really believe that? Seriously? You don't think the majority of the Thai population don't understand what is going on and are keeping their powder dry? The pushback will be very nasty. Not only are the redshirts not "the majority", they also have been fairly well neutralized as an armed group. I am not expecting much "pushback" at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmac10 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing Yes it is finally the shins are getting their medicine. When this is all over they won't be able to form a party anymore as all the players have lifetime bans for their crimes. When they were in power they tried the same.. now the tables are turned and the other party is far better at it. Wow, you really believe that? Seriously? You don't think the majority of the Thai population don't understand what is going on and are keeping their powder dry? The pushback will be very nasty. Not only are the redshirts not "the majority", they also have been fairly well neutralized as an armed group. I am not expecting much "pushback" at all. Oh, OK, I thought they had won the last three elections by a landslide..... heh heh......but you would know. In your bubble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing Yes it is finally the shins are getting their medicine. When this is all over they won't be able to form a party anymore as all the players have lifetime bans for their crimes. When they were in power they tried the same.. now the tables are turned and the other party is far better at it. Wow, you really believe that? Seriously? You don't think the majority of the Thai population don't understand what is going on and are keeping their powder dry? The pushback will be very nasty. Not only are the redshirts not "the majority", they also have been fairly well neutralized as an armed group. I am not expecting much "pushback" at all. A rather "glib" response that doesn't show much appreciation of the situation at present or how it has evolved - . The "Red Shirts" are an amalgamation of various orgs in the same way the Yellow shirts are (BTW - I hope you realise they have sifted hugely to the right since the previous coup) - they as an organisation may not be a majority, but the fact remains that those who voted for the Thaksin's are still by far the largest single voting lock in the country. At present I fail to see how the current policies of the government will change that - in fact it rather looks as if they know this all too well themselves and are reduced to trying to pick off the leadership one by one until they reintroduce "democracy" with a parliament that guarantees a lower house with an army majority and an upper house full of appointees by the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The "witch hunt" is in full swing Yes it is finally the shins are getting their medicine. When this is all over they won't be able to form a party anymore as all the players have lifetime bans for their crimes. When they were in power they tried the same.. now the tables are turned and the other party is far better at it. Wow, you really believe that? Seriously? You don't think the majority of the Thai population don't understand what is going on and are keeping their powder dry? The pushback will be very nasty. Not only are the redshirts not "the majority", they also have been fairly well neutralized as an armed group. I am not expecting much "pushback" at all. Oh, OK, I thought they had won the last three elections by a landslide..... heh heh......but you would know. In your bubble. They didn't get the majority of votes cast and not all of the votes cast for the most recent version of Thaksin's TRT group came from redshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Somchai is another Thai politician/Shiniwatra/toadie/dirtbag - deserves all the crap he is getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 In the spirit of peace and reconciliation, expect Samak to be charged next... Anyone else Googled 'prime ministers of Thailand' lately... the photo of the current leader of Thailand... hahaha!! I just did the google thing and I recommend everybody else does the same! Great call Kerry! I guess they will be blocking Google soon then LOL that was funny I can see the US getting the blame for that one, we may get another "incident". Fantastic! A picture paints a thousand words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsox44 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Gotta rid country of possible election runners prior to supposed upcoming election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Its becoming a bit too blatant to ignore now. Article in the UK Financial Times today headlined "Thailand’s generals should stand aside" pretty much sums it up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Its becoming a bit too blatant to ignore now. Article in the UK Financial Times today headlined "Thailand’s generals should stand aside" pretty much sums it up Pity that even for three free articles a month I have to register. So, do us a favour and give us a summary in your own words. Thanks PS that's assuming the article has any relation with the topic here Edited February 9, 2015 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 wow another piece of 'non-discrimination'? No, the time for justice has come for some politicians that avoided the law for years. Jesus you are some piece of work Costas It is clear its a witchhunt the public prosecutor DECLINED TO PROSECUTE so they are going to do it themselves as time continues there is less and less credability for this government that took over at the point of a gun under the guise they are indpendant of any r LOL its very clear who is back at the reigns by having to use the GUN because they could never get in by the VOTE. Yes. I cannot understand, and on other social media, people are talking about this, that on this board, so many think that the yellow shirts are the good guys, when they were responsible for all the chaos, in the first place. When they managed to impeach Taksin, they saw they still not could elected, and every time, over and over again, they put the country in chaos. Taking over the airport, is only a small thing (but cost Thai society an arm and a leg!), compared of all the impact all their actions has caused wrong. And you are the bad guy, stopping this madness? Don't be confused. Thai Visa Forum is not exclusively read or used by westerners only. Thais with a decent command of English also post here in order to make it appear that the yellow shirts have wide backing in the expat community. On the streets , I have yet to meet an expat who whole heartily supports the coup and it's fallout to the degree that some of the pro coup posters here would have you believe. Hi So Thais crave respect and are exceedingly sensitive to criticism . They want democracy , but only for themselves. The concept of one man one vote , regardless of wealth or skin tone , is an anathema to them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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