1 dead in shooting at Copenhagen free speech event

[Mosha]

Edit to an earlier post. He was an ex soldier, named Martin.

[NeverSure]

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Edited February 17, 2015 by NeverSure

[KhunMoo]

Edit to an earlier post. He was an ex soldier, named Martin.

No name, in Danish media - they all just refer to a 22 year old class mate.

[Mosha]

Edit to an earlier post. He was an ex soldier, named Martin.

No name, in Danish media - they all just refer to a 22 year old class mate.

Was he dark haired with some facial hair?

[KhunMoo]

Edit to an earlier post. He was an ex soldier, named Martin.

No name, in Danish media - they all just refer to a 22 year old class mate.

Was he dark haired with some facial hair?

"Printed" media, no picture

http://www.b.dk/nationalt/drengen-der-blev-jihad-kriger (in danish)

[i claudius]

MSN is reporting an arrest in Liverpool where a man was arrested for "trying to get chemical weapons." Named as Mohammed Ammer Ali. Eternal vigilance will one day not be enough.

So British then, no question with a name like that ,mind you just like that "British" guy in Guatanimo that the govt are trying to get "home" could have been born anywhere.

[arjunadawn]

Update:

@Arjunadown: Try to read it again, I dont claim to be able to disginuish between .223 and 5.56 on a recording, I did not listen to it to be honest. I was stating, that if the weapon used was chambered in 5.56. The terrorist was most likely firing .223 rounds. As its very hard to get hold of 5.56 NATO ammunition. You are by the way very very wrong, when you claim the pressure is the same. One can fire .223's from a 5.56, the other way around is dangerous, as the pressure IS different. YES, THIS IS EXACTLY AS I STATED- WHY THEN MISQUOTE ME?

You are also very wrong regarding Islam as the only reason. You don't know jack shit about the case, you only get your limited information from international media. (Only someone who gets their information solely from the media and not experience would presume this in another. How... child like; literally, school yard-like. Calling someone simple minded and not knowing jackshit- all based on your own misreading of a quote, marks your unique character among men.)

Thinking that this case is related to only one ting is simple minded. I, like you, have spend a lot of time in the army, with very close and nasty contact with crazy worshippers of the Prophet - I have no love at all for Islam, non at all. And apart form the city Beirut, I share your views on most of the middle east. But I do have the intelligence to see that, this case is not black and white. So do the Danish media(now, at last) and so do the police, which is why the two thugs adding Omar with acquiring the rifle, is NOT in holding on grounds of terrorism, but simple body harm and homicide.(Omar was a terrorist, but you can not prosecute a dead man in danish criminal law).

Omar was by no means a religious fanatic, he drank alcohol, smoked cigarettes and hash - and rarely visited the mosque. He was in prison until 14 days ago(for two years) And because he was in holding, no one really had the chance to radicalize him. He was a hardened criminal, who sought attention and acceptance through extreme violence.

People like you, who are unable to analyse data properly, so one of the reasons we are having a hard time fighting this crap. I for one would like solutions to this problem, I swore to serve and protect the crown, and i did(blod, sweat and tears!). That also means that you can look past the religious problems, as the only reason for this attack. We have major problems in Denmark, with a whole generations of second-thired, and even fourth immigrant males, that is quite simply lost on the floor - they have no education, no jobs and no future. Its a major social problem, and religion is not the only reason for this very problematic situation. Actually several studies show, that the very very religious young men(however disgusting and crazy their believes are) are less likely to get involved in terrorism.

One can muse all day long about inner city opportunities, choices presented perhaps equaling better roads taken, and other influences that sway youth toward such behavior all day long- the point is, I no longer give s..it. I, like numerous others, no longer care about the touchy feely culturally relative nonsense of camp songs and nurture versus nature. There is a storm brewing violently atop the dizzying haze of obfuscation and smoke of the leftists and the multiculturalists. This islamic storm sweeps everything up into it- the religious, the downtrodden, the biker gangs you employ, as well as the countless innocents.

I no longer give a damn about the reasons why islamic jihad savages the youth. The ignorant self loathing assertions that muslim youth behave this way because of environmental influences has long ago been tested and proven fiction. If they have no education, no jobs, no future, line them up and demand an oath of allegiance (they will not do it, not one) and if they fail, boat them all back to the the place they came. History is filled with examples of populations who have suffered but rarely do they launch a religious war against the majority, demand special accommodations, epidemic rape the local hosts, insulate in private sheikdoms in Europe proper, or claim victim status to leverage special accommodation. If you juxtaposed your positions with a cursory knowledge of how islamic literature dovetails and supports your theory it would be more valid. The 800 pound gorilla in the room easily accounts for every single issue you sight. This is an islamic jihad issue, not an issue of social inequality of opportunity. This is a 1,400 year battle; it did not just begin today.

[Steely Dan]

I also had a price on my head and was evacuated out of Iraq. After a security briefing and in-country upgrade of security, I returned. Strangely, the price was from Iranian gov't, which I nothing to do with, but I had had some passing contact with members of the Iranian opposition that were refugees inside of Iraq.

....Back on this topic, however. Does it appear that this guy had accomplices?

The 2 arrests are for offering him refuge and hiding a gun/guns. Also he was a radical at school, which suggests to me that lead to his violent behaviour. Schoolmates are not surprised

He was not radical at school?

Radical muslims, do not smoke cigarettes, hash, drinks alcohol. Also they do attend the mosque often. Another thing, there was only interviewed ONE schoolmate, from "Hvidovre VUC" - and that guy expressed that he hated jews(pretty common, among arabs), but that he was surprised about Omar, making a crazy attack like this. He was described as a quite person, that kept to him self.

Where did you get your information?

You should try telling that to Anjen Choudary. Outward signs of piousness would not be an asset for someone contemplating terrorist acts, if anything the contrary might apply, check out the behavior of the 9/11 hijackers for cases in point.

[Steely Dan]

By way of a postscript here is a Danish report of members of the 'Tiny minority' praying for their co-tiny minority member, who carried out two murders.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/02/praying-for-omar/

[i claudius]

By way of a postscript here is a Danish report of members of the 'Tiny minority' praying for their co-tiny minority member, who carried out two murders.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/02/praying-for-omar/

And this is why I do not trust the phrase "good Muslims" in the end as far as they are concerned it's them and us ,and if the Luvy left forget this ,it is at our peril,because they will try to take us over by fair means or foul ,

[Jingthing]

Some good news for a change.

Muslim "Peace Ring" around an Oslo Norway synagogue.

http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/215245/how-norwegian-muslim-peace-ring-changed-me/

[i claudius]

This is great,but I fear that it is only a tiny no of Muslims feel like this,good on those who attended

[JockPieandBeans]

By way of a postscript here is a Danish report of members of the 'Tiny minority' praying for their co-tiny minority member, who carried out two murders.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/02/praying-for-omar/

And here is another 1.

A radical Islamic preacher has been arrested in Norway after praising last month's deadly attack on the Charlie Hebdo satirical weekly in Paris, police said Friday.

When a cartoonist "tramples on our dignity, our principles and our faith, he must die," he said.

"Those who do not respect 30 percent of the Earth's population do not deserve to live

And these are the men animals that these scumbags draw their ideals from.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/radical-preacher-who-praised-charlie-hebdo-killers-arrested/ar-BBi3lQn?ocid=DELLDHP

[petercool]

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