NYC, Orthodox Jews in talks over ritual after herpes cases

[jdinasia]

The concern is for infant boys. The religious aspect isn't important to me. I would have the same concerns if this unsafe circumcision were being done by Muslims. To suggest otherwise is baiting.

[MikeOboe57]

Yes HIV risk is lower for cut straight males.

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Here is another link shooting down the assumption that circumcision reduced the risk for "straight" males to become infected with HIV and other STDs (Warning: no easy to read stuff)

http://www.salem-news.com/fms/pdf/2011-12_JLM-Boyle-Hill.pdf

There is one especially damning statement:

In contrast, a parallel RCT into male-to-female sexual transmission of HIV in Uganda demonstrated that male circumcision increases male-to-female transmission of HIV.[...]

In the male-to-female trial, women were unwittingly exposed to HIV infection since male sexual partners subjected to male circumcision were already HIV-positive. Several women subsequently became HIV-positive following their participation in the trial, raising concerns about informed consent

Driving force behind the obsessive urge to chop parts off a child´s body is the AAP, the American Academy of Pediatrics, which, by its very nature, concentrates their efforts on securing and increasing the income of their members. As the widespread habit of circumcision in the US flushes a whopping 1.25 bn USD (2012) into the accounts of hospitals and pediatrics it is understandable that they don´t want common sense to jeopardize this income. A mandatory circumcision would almost double this amount.

It is very telling that a leading member of the AAP even went so far as to twice propose a "ritual nick" on girls´genitalia, a practice that is illegal by US and international law.

Here is the rebuke of the 2012 AAP statement including many links:

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/pdf/2013-04-24_Commentary.pdf

On a personal note I have been babysitting my now 4 months old grandson 5 days a week since beginning of January. I find the idea revolting to abuse his trust in me by handing him over to a religious cultist or unscrupulous quack to have a part of his little tadger cut off for no sound medical reason.

[Jingthing]

This thread is specifically about oral suction during circumcisions a practice (unfortunately) still done by very Orthodox Jews.

This thread seems more apt for more general issues about the cut:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/793226-us-florida-boys-circumcision-spurs-lengthy-legal-battle-protests/

Edited February 23, 2015 by Jingthing

[Scott]

Inflammatory posts and replies removed.

[tsigane]

Sadly antisemitism is on the rise again although it never went away and any negative story having any connection to Jews is used by Jew haters to try to spread their disease. Which btw is much more dangerous than herpes.

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Maybe it's listening to endless "antisemitism" complaining that are people getting tired of?

Maybe it's the never ending stream of movies, stories and news related to "THE holocaust" shoved down peoples' throats that is making them numb?

Maybe it's the news like "four Jews killed in some terrorist attack" referred to as a "massacre" that is turning people off?

Since when is "I don't care about you and your problems" equal to "I hate you?"

There are so many "ancient" rituals that are considered disgusting. People used to make human sacrifices in ancient times. Just because something is ancient does not make it right. Mankind has come a long way. If someone's happy having some guy cut his baby's foreskin and then suck the blood, so be it. But then go to Israel and do it there, not in NY.

I can only imagine the outcry if a muslim community practiced some of their "ancient" customs in the US.

Maybe it's application of double standards by Jewish-dominated media that are people tired of?

Nobody hates Jews (well, maybe apart from the Palestinians who are bombed daily), it's all in your head.

[tartempion]

This thread is specifically about oral suction during circumcisions a practice (unfortunately) still done by very Orthodox Jews.

This thread seems more apt for more general issues about the cut:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/793226-us-florida-boys-circumcision-spurs-lengthy-legal-battle-protests/

Jingthing, you are really getting onto my nerves.

Circumcision is a useless practice, thus the oral suction etc together with circumcision should be banned. All religions are based on bad fairy tales and should be wiped out, but that will never happen because humans are a dysfunctional lot. There are no worse entities on the universe and don't use the word "creation", the universe was not "created"

Sorry to go off topic witz m'y comment, 55555

[harryfrompattaya]

I did live in New York I let me tell you New York London Bangkok and the rest of the large cities have much more to worry about but Orthodox Jew during so cutting and kisses in full view of the group .

This is not important to us let them do what they want

Or is this the way you think they become bankers and diamond merchants?

Edited March 7, 2015 by harryfrompattaya

[harryfrompattaya]

This thread is specifically about oral suction during circumcisions a practice (unfortunately) still done by very Orthodox Jews.

This thread seems more apt for more general issues about the cut:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/793226-us-florida-boys-circumcision-spurs-lengthy-legal-battle-protests/

Jingthing, you are really getting onto my nerves.

Circumcision is a useless practice, thus the oral suction etc together with circumcision should be banned. All religions are based on bad fairy tales and should be wiped out, but that will never happen because humans are a dysfunctional lot. There are no worse entities on the universe and don't use the word "creation", the universe was not "created"

Sorry to go off topic witz m'y comment, 55555

Are you married or your daughter married to Orthodox Jew

You just should worry about the Orthodox Drunks you know

[samran]

Vampire paedophile Rabbis. Sick.

when you boil it down, probably not too far from the mark.

If it was a news story of some voodo witch doctor in Issan doing this the TV penut gallery would be going wild.

If it was someone from one of the other Abrahamic faiths, then the TV keyboard warriors would be out in force.

But I guess issues about double standards may be deemed off topic, so that lets simply count that as an aside.

Edited March 7, 2015 by samran

[Jingthing]

...

Nobody hates Jews (well, maybe apart from the Palestinians who are bombed daily), it's all in your head.

It's all in my head?

Dude, anyone actually so clueless as to actually believe that nobody hates Jews probably has a multitude of mental health issues and might benefit from seeing a very good Jewish psychiatrist!

BTW, I'm AGAINST the practice referred to in the OP! Imagine if someone came on here as a Jew actually DEFENDING it. Oy!

Edited March 7, 2015 by Jingthing

[DiamondKing]

The ignorance and antisemitism on display here is disheartening to see, and makes me ashamed to know that I share this forum with such misinformed individuals. Associating Judaism with satan might be the most ignorant statement I have seen within this forum and reminds me of the propaganda that the Nazi’s pushed into the minds of the uneducated and lower classes, who bought in and gave power to the Nazi party.

Like all religions there are various sects, ranging from extreme to barely practicing. With even the most basic education one should understand that it’s ignorant and racist to lump everyone together, or blame the group as a whole for the actions of some.

I’m not going to make a list of life changing contributions that Jews have made, because there are also lists of contributions by Muslims, Christians, Bhuddist, etc. It is also a waste of time to try to open your mind to how wrong you are in your beliefs.

I can only hope that in the future, there are less people like you. So if you prescribe to the racism in this thread, make sure you make good use of a Jewish invention, The Pill.

On the topic, it’s an extreme practice done by less than 1% of Jews and the people doing it should know better. It’s very sad to see ancient traditions become twisted into something wrong.

On the subject of circumcision, there are 1000s of medical studies and it is clear that the benefits outweigh the risks based on medical research, which I am going to subscribe to over your baseless opinions.

In regards to the ignorant comments about who performs the circumcision on the 8th day, its the Mohel who is usually a doctor or has had medical training and performs 100s of circumcisions a week and they use medical tools to do the process.

I am not going to push my agenda, you can read the benefits from the Mayo clinic here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/why-its-done/PRC-20013585

& Risks here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/risks/prc-20013585

And you can read about the Bris here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Mohel

Circumcision is nothing more than Child mutilation and abuse UNLESS they are suffering from a medical issue to do it as part of a religion and using the excuse that it is more healthy is complete and utter BS as someone who thankfully did not get mutilated as a child I have NEVER EVER had any medical issue and everything works just fine as GOD INTENDED IT TO DO all you religious jews dont you think if god wanted that skin gone he would of created you that way not instruct you to cut it off

As for the practice of sucking off a baby after it has had its foreskin cut off well that just make me want to vomit

[thaibeachlovers]

I just threw up a lil in my mouth, Disgusting, Almost Sounds Criminal...

And chopping healthy little penis ...crime!

Do I detect a pro foreskin sympathiser?

No way would I want that filthy bit of skin flapping about, not to mention those that have phimosis- YUCH.

By that logic, lambs would not be docked, with all the complications of tails ensuing.

[thaibeachlovers]

The ignorance and antisemitism on display here is disheartening to see, and makes me ashamed to know that I share this forum with such misinformed individuals. Associating Judaism with satan might be the most ignorant statement I have seen within this forum and reminds me of the propaganda that the Nazi’s pushed into the minds of the uneducated and lower classes, who bought in and gave power to the Nazi party.

Like all religions there are various sects, ranging from extreme to barely practicing. With even the most basic education one should understand that it’s ignorant and racist to lump everyone together, or blame the group as a whole for the actions of some.

I’m not going to make a list of life changing contributions that Jews have made, because there are also lists of contributions by Muslims, Christians, Bhuddist, etc. It is also a waste of time to try to open your mind to how wrong you are in your beliefs.

I can only hope that in the future, there are less people like you. So if you prescribe to the racism in this thread, make sure you make good use of a Jewish invention, The Pill.

On the topic, it’s an extreme practice done by less than 1% of Jews and the people doing it should know better. It’s very sad to see ancient traditions become twisted into something wrong.

On the subject of circumcision, there are 1000s of medical studies and it is clear that the benefits outweigh the risks based on medical research, which I am going to subscribe to over your baseless opinions.

In regards to the ignorant comments about who performs the circumcision on the 8th day, its the Mohel who is usually a doctor or has had medical training and performs 100s of circumcisions a week and they use medical tools to do the process.

I am not going to push my agenda, you can read the benefits from the Mayo clinic here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/why-its-done/PRC-20013585

& Risks here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/risks/prc-20013585

And you can read about the Bris here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Mohel

Circumcision is nothing more than Child mutilation and abuse UNLESS they are suffering from a medical issue to do it as part of a religion and using the excuse that it is more healthy is complete and utter BS as someone who thankfully did not get mutilated as a child I have NEVER EVER had any medical issue and everything works just fine as GOD INTENDED IT TO DO all you religious jews dont you think if god wanted that skin gone he would of created you that way not instruct you to cut it off

As for the practice of sucking off a baby after it has had its foreskin cut off well that just make me want to vomit

Circumcision is nothing more than Child mutilation and abuse

Absolute BS.

[GentlemanJim]

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I just threw up a lil in my mouth, Disgusting, Almost Sounds Criminal...

And chopping healthy little penis ...crime!

Do I detect a pro foreskin sympathiser?

No way would I want that filthy bit of skin flapping about, not to mention those that have phimosis- YUCH.

By that logic, lambs would not be docked, with all the complications of tails ensuing.

I have to laugh out loud at those people who have obviously been circumcised (and are therefore denied the incredible sensitivity during sex that disappears when their foreskins are thrown in the bin), and seem to think that if they have a foreskin they assume one ends up with a kilo of smegma festering away underneath the foreskin. I am not circumcised, my penis has never been filthy. It may come as a surprise to you that I wash it as often as I would behind my ears, maybe moreso.

Perhaps wandering through the desert for 40 years during the exodus, a stinking penis was a more common problem, as if you found a liter of water you were more likely to drink it than wash your private parts in it. HOWEVER, we live in modern times with modern sanitation and there is absolutely no need these days for circumcision. Full stop. It was a practice carried out by people thousands of years ago where water was a bit of a rarity, i.e. the desert locations. There is zero practical purpose for doing it, and to say 'God told us to do it" is stretching it a bit. If it were God why didn't he just make us without foreskins? Why give us one and then tell us to chop it off? The whole thing is ridiculous. And as for someone sucking the blood to prevent infection, when some cream and a sterile dressing would do a thousand times better is just the practice of nut jobs. Sucking a snake bite has no effect on reducing the effect of venom, why would sucking a child's bleeding penis prevent infection at cellular level? It is perpetuating the most ignorant practices of people who were only just out of the stone age.

Edited March 7, 2015 by GentlemanJim

[Jingthing]

So does anyone have anything new to say about the actual topic which is oral suction in New York? If not why is this thread even still open?

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[up-country_sinclair]

As for the practice of sucking off a baby after it has had its foreskin cut off well that just make me want to vomit

It is a vile and disgusting criminal act, and the perpetrators should be brought up on charges of sexual crimes against children.

Here's a newsflash: New York is in America and Americans don't support this type of deviant behavior. Maybe they do in Israel, but not America. Get out and take this disgusting filth with you.

[thaibeachlovers]

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I just threw up a lil in my mouth, Disgusting, Almost Sounds Criminal...

And chopping healthy little penis ...crime!

Do I detect a pro foreskin sympathiser?

No way would I want that filthy bit of skin flapping about, not to mention those that have phimosis- YUCH.

By that logic, lambs would not be docked, with all the complications of tails ensuing.

I have to laugh out loud at those people who have obviously been circumcised (and are therefore denied the incredible sensitivity during sex that disappears when their foreskins are thrown in the bin), and seem to think that if they have a foreskin they assume one ends up with a kilo of smegma festering away underneath the foreskin. I am not circumcised, my penis has never been filthy. It may come as a surprise to you that I wash it as often as I would behind my ears, maybe moreso.

Perhaps wandering through the desert for 40 years during the exodus, a stinking penis was a more common problem, as if you found a liter of water you were more likely to drink it than wash your private parts in it. HOWEVER, we live in modern times with modern sanitation and there is absolutely no need these days for circumcision. Full stop. It was a practice carried out by people thousands of years ago where water was a bit of a rarity, i.e. the desert locations. There is zero practical purpose for doing it, and to say 'God told us to do it" is stretching it a bit. If it were God why didn't he just make us without foreskins? Why give us one and then tell us to chop it off? The whole thing is ridiculous. And as for someone sucking the blood to prevent infection, when some cream and a sterile dressing would do a thousand times better is just the practice of nut jobs. Sucking a snake bite has no effect on reducing the effect of venom, why would sucking a child's bleeding penis prevent infection at cellular level? It is perpetuating the most ignorant practices of people who were only just out of the stone age.

Why would anyone miss what they never had? If circumcision made men insensitive there, they wouldn't want sex, but they do ( definitely ). BTW it probably makes one last longer, giving the GF a better ride than the premature ejaculators with the super sensitive members.

You don't address phimosis.

As a nurse, I'd prefer a circumcised man to have to wash.

. If it were God why didn't he just make us without foreskins?

Why do sheep have tails? Same same. Millions and millions have to be docked every year.

[Seastallion]

Modern flavour of anti semitism? Please spare me the hyperbole.

It's not hyperbole. It's a real thing.

But back to the topic, anything new to add to the question of oral suction practice done during ritual circumcision by some Orthodox rabbis in New York? Again, this is a topic relating to news from New York.

To refresh, everyone seems to be against it (me too).

Some think it should be illegal in New York.

Some think that would just drive it underground and create even more health risks.

Nobody actually believes it makes sense medically, regardless of what people probably sensibly may have thought long ago.

Some people accuse the rabbis of committing pederast sex crimes.

Others (me) think that is ridiculous as the intention obviously isn't based on seeking sex pleasure.

So again, anything new?

It's certainly hyperbole and also tiresome....and tied in with the OP for the following;-

Your summing up missed the underlying scandal; that even though there is a health issue that can cause and has caused death, authorities don't do anything more than "negotiate".

Whatsmore, the negotiations ended up with less regulation than before! Scandalous!

I can't imagine any religious or cultural group that performs an archaic ritual that causes disease and death of babies would be allowed to continue the practice. But this particular religious group IS allowed.

Why is that? I reasonably suspect that it has to do with what you, JT, are protesting about in Bobby's comment regarding people around the world being afraid to criticise Jews for fear of being labeled "antisemite".

The word has a stigma more powerful than other negative labels such as "racist", "bigot", or "xenophobe".

The fear of the stigma is, in effect, resulting in Jewish baby boys dying.

Some would see an irony in that situation.

[tartempion]

So does anyone have anything new to say about the actual topic which is oral suction in New York? If not why is this thread even still open?

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Because you never give up with your idiotic paranoiac crap replies???

You want the last word here?

Go ahead, make my day. Today is 08/03/2015.

you're at 58171 posts?

Edited March 7, 2015 by tartempion

[Jingthing]

So does anyone have anything new to say about the actual topic which is oral suction in New York? If not why is this thread even still open?

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Because you never give up with your idiotic paranoiac crap replies???

You want the last word here?

Go ahead, make my day. Today is 08/03/2015.

you're at 58171 posts?

As I suspected. As is obvious. Nothing new. Nothing on topic. Just wanting to make this personal.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed, including one with an aberrant spelling of a politician's name.

[harryfrompattaya]

Who cares what a small group of Jews do to their own?

This nothing but Anti Jewish

It will be like this group of Jews worrying about English Football fans Drinking and Fighting

<snip>

Edited March 8, 2015 by Jai Dee
off-topic remark removed

[Seastallion]

Who cares what a small group of Jews do to their own?

This nothing but Anti Jewish

It will be like this group of Jews worrying about English Football fans Drinking and Fighting

<snip>

If I wasn't so much against frivolous use of the "antisemite" label, I'd call that antisemitic, Harry. Of course we should care if a group of adults are killing babies because of their insistence on following an ancient redundant ritual.

It matters not what their religion is.

[harryfrompattaya]

Who cares what a small group of Jews do to their own?

This nothing but Anti Jewish

It will be like this group of Jews worrying about English Football fans Drinking and Fighting

<snip>

If I wasn't so much against frivolous use of the "antisemite" label, I'd call that antisemitic, Harry. Of course we should care if a group of adults are killing babies because of their insistence on following an ancient redundant ritual.

It matters not what their religion is.

I admit it I an anti whites that are keep are denying they are anti Semitics

That fact you hate your own religion that you were born into doesn't make it right

I now have to pray for your evil soul

[GentlemanJim]

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Do I detect a pro foreskin sympathiser?

No way would I want that filthy bit of skin flapping about, not to mention those that have phimosis- YUCH.

By that logic, lambs would not be docked, with all the complications of tails ensuing.

I have to laugh out loud at those people who have obviously been circumcised (and are therefore denied the incredible sensitivity during sex that disappears when their foreskins are thrown in the bin), and seem to think that if they have a foreskin they assume one ends up with a kilo of smegma festering away underneath the foreskin. I am not circumcised, my penis has never been filthy. It may come as a surprise to you that I wash it as often as I would behind my ears, maybe moreso.

Perhaps wandering through the desert for 40 years during the exodus, a stinking penis was a more common problem, as if you found a liter of water you were more likely to drink it than wash your private parts in it. HOWEVER, we live in modern times with modern sanitation and there is absolutely no need these days for circumcision. Full stop. It was a practice carried out by people thousands of years ago where water was a bit of a rarity, i.e. the desert locations. There is zero practical purpose for doing it, and to say 'God told us to do it" is stretching it a bit. If it were God why didn't he just make us without foreskins? Why give us one and then tell us to chop it off? The whole thing is ridiculous. And as for someone sucking the blood to prevent infection, when some cream and a sterile dressing would do a thousand times better is just the practice of nut jobs. Sucking a snake bite has no effect on reducing the effect of venom, why would sucking a child's bleeding penis prevent infection at cellular level? It is perpetuating the most ignorant practices of people who were only just out of the stone age.

Why would anyone miss what they never had? If circumcision made men insensitive there, they wouldn't want sex, but they do ( definitely ). BTW it probably makes one last longer, giving the GF a better ride than the premature ejaculators with the super sensitive members.

You don't address phimosis.

As a nurse, I'd prefer a circumcised man to have to wash.

. If it were God why didn't he just make us without foreskins?

Why do sheep have tails? Same same. Millions and millions have to be docked every year.

So now we compare babies penises with sheeps tails!

Why do I need to address the issue of Phimosis? Phimosis is a medical condition that 'may' require circumcision to alleviate the problem. The reasons for being circumcised if you have acute Phimosis are far far different than some 2000 year old ritual baloney when little more than stone age nomads used to do it because it was probably 6 months in-between when they could get a decent wash. If you are proud of your cut job that is cool, i am very happy for you, but allow babies the dignity of deciding when they are 18 years old if they want to be cut. I won't allow my daughters ears to be pierced, she can decide when she is 18. What grounds are there for cutting off a newborns foreskin? .....and then having an old man suck on it!

[GentlemanJim]

Who cares what a small group of Jews do to their own?

This nothing but Anti Jewish

It will be like this group of Jews worrying about English Football fans Drinking and Fighting

<snip>

If I wasn't so much against frivolous use of the "antisemite" label, I'd call that antisemitic, Harry. Of course we should care if a group of adults are killing babies because of their insistence on following an ancient redundant ritual.

It matters not what their religion is.

I admit it I an anti whites that are keep are denying they are anti Semitics

That fact you hate your own religion that you were born into doesn't make it right

I now have to pray for your evil soul

Harry, you should be on a red card for your last two posts. This is not 'anti-jewish', it is anti-killing babies or infecting them with genital herpes!

As for you praying for another TV members evil soul, I suggest you lay off the pop so early on a Sunday. I wonder if the MODS will allow such blatant rubbish to remain on forum. I do hope not, it is obscene and is the very type of dialogue that encourages true anti-semitism.

[harryfrompattaya]

Who cares what a small group of Jews do to their own?

This nothing but Anti Jewish

It will be like this group of Jews worrying about English Football fans Drinking and Fighting

<snip>

If I wasn't so much against frivolous use of the "antisemite" label, I'd call that antisemitic, Harry. Of course we should care if a group of adults are killing babies because of their insistence on following an ancient redundant ritual.

It matters not what their religion is.

I admit it I an anti whites that are keep are denying they are anti Semitics

That fact you hate your own religion that you were born into doesn't make it right

I now have to pray for your evil soul

Harry, you should be on a red card for your last two posts. This is not 'anti-jewish', it is anti-killing babies or infecting them with genital herpes!

As for you praying for another TV members evil soul, I suggest you lay off the pop so early on a Sunday. I wonder if the MODS will allow such blatant rubbish to remain on forum. I do hope not, it is obscene and is the very type of dialogue that encourages true anti-semitism.

Worry about the Hundreds of Thousand that are killed in Africa and the Mideast by the Group that plant bombs in Thailand and will like to kill you

You afraid of the group

But you worry about may be 2 little Jewish babies who are kidding that is Anti Semitic

And you should be give a Red Card by God not Thai Visa

Edited March 8, 2015 by harryfrompattaya

[Jingthing]

Yep. This exaggerated concern about the health of Jewish babies in NYC by the same people who have posted hundreds of Israel demonizing posts is simply not believable as sincere. Another way to exploit a negative news story about Jews and blow it up way out of proportion. Again, not sure why this thread is still open. The practice of oral suction in circumcision is bad, everyone posting here seems to agree, it is not done by most Jews only fanatically fundamentalist, it shouldn't be done at all but compared to other problems in the world, it is a very minor thing.

The city of New York made a balanced decision. Making it illegal would have been another option. I understand why some people would argue for that but there are reasons for the stance they did take as well.

Edited March 8, 2015 by Jingthing

[GentlemanJim]

Yep. This exaggerated concern about the health of Jewish babies in NYC by the same people who have posted hundreds of Israel demonizing posts is simply not believable as sincere. Another way to exploit a negative news story about Jews and blow it up way out of proportion. Again, not sure why this thread is still open. The practice of oral suction in circumcision is bad, everyone posting here seems to agree, it is not done by most Jews only fanatically fundamentalist, it shouldn't be done at all but compared to other problems in the world, it is a very minor thing.

The city of New York made a balanced decision. Making it illegal would have been another option. I understand why some people would argue for that but there are reasons for the stance they did take as well.

Jingthing, the reason why this thread is still open or not is absolutely nothing to do with you. It is still serving it's purpose to up your post count with dozens of banal posts, so why worry. Are you vying for a position on the MOD team now? Hoping to come over as all sensible at last? As for your pitiful line about the exaggerated concern of jewish babies, how many need to die or be infected before it is not an exaggeration Jingthing? Isn't one enough when it is such a barbaric practice? Who knows what the life long effects are of having your penis sucked by an old man when you are 7 days old eh Jingthing.

The decision by NYC was not balanced, far from it and the only reason they made that decision was ...........votes! nothing more nothing less.

Edited March 8, 2015 by GentlemanJim

[DaddyWarbucks]

Yep. This exaggerated concern about the health of Jewish babies in NYC by the same people who have posted hundreds of Israel demonizing posts is simply not believable as sincere. Another way to exploit a negative news story about Jews and blow it up way out of proportion. Again, not sure why this thread is still open. The practice of oral suction in circumcision is bad, everyone posting here seems to agree, it is not done by most Jews only fanatically fundamentalist, it shouldn't be done at all but compared to other problems in the world, it is a very minor thing.

The city of New York made a balanced decision. Making it illegal would have been another option. I understand why some people would argue for that but there are reasons for the stance they did take as well.

New York didn't make it illegal because if they did, the orthodox communities in and around the city would have continued to perform the ritual underground, thus becoming outlaws.

That won't happen anytime soon. The Jews in New York are too powerful.

Incidentally, your often stated contention that this bizarre ritual is only practiced by a small minority is misleading. It is widespread among Orthodox Jews wherever they are.

In Brooklyn alone, they dominate Borough Park, Williamsburg, and a large part of Flatbush. In upstate New York, orthodox Jewish sects have taken over whole towns, and non-Jews are decidedly unwelcome.

Of course, if anyone complains, they are obviously anti-Semitic.

Edited March 8, 2015 by DaddyWarbucks