My time in Thai prison

[csabo]

I remember your last post Colin and sent my sincerest sympathies then (round the world cyclist). I can only tell you that I myself am a great believer in prayer (doesn't matter if you are or not) and my prayer is that you be given the strength and power to cope with all you have to cope with. I myself had my fair amount of up's and down's and I realized that a big stumbling block for me was my resentments against those that I felt played a big part in my situation. It wasn't until I came to forgive those that the healing really started (in my head anyway). I forgave them because it was necessary for my own recovery.....not for any benefit for them. I say this because I sensed in your last post that resentment might be playing a part in your life. If I picked that up wrong....please forgive me. GBU.

You're a big believer in prayer and you're only gonna ask for "power to cope". Why not pray for a new spinal cord for the poor guy? Just saying, since you're such a big believer and all that why not go for it with one of these powerful prayers? You're god has the power to heal right?

[Jip99]

Sorry but I have to ask some other questions. What exactly were the charges and did this go to court?

They just cant throw you in prison for nothing, did you contact a lawyer about this? If she did not have evidence to support her claim I would sue for unlawful imprisonment and associated damages.

Yes I know TIT and its probably best to leave it alone.

I think you have answered your own question.

T. I. T. - the land where money speaks louder than facts!

They can throw you in prison for any reason they want. Yes, Thai law is little different when it comes to rights and wrongs - but the application of those laws can be somewhat different.

[KonaRain]

^^Prayer^^

Studies show that prayer helps..

Any Kine..

even 'not religious '

Let's keep Colin's spirits up! ⬆

Since he has shared all this.

Perfect grammar too.!

Alohz

[Jip99]

No jail is good, unless its in small towns and just for holding

This was not prison though

Prisons are long term.

This was a holding jail.

Big difference

So you have stayed in Buriram prison ?

If you think the small town 'holding jail', where Colin was initially detained, is "good" I would like to see you survive a couple of nights - it was depressing enough just visiting.

To be fair, Colin never complained about his treatment there and they did allow us to bring him some western food and a change of clothes. But,........ the Amari it is not.

[samsensam]

thanks for sharing, quite an experience

i cant help asking would't you be better off in the UK with the NHS and disability payments?

You want him stuck in a hospital or a room having some nurse looking after him?

No, he has a fantastic Thai wife that takes care of all his needs and cares for him a lot.

He also has a beautiful house that he build before his accident.

UK can't offer him anything more than Thailand does.

less with the tone please. i dont want him to do anything he doesnt want to do

i merely suggested that as a uk citizen he is entitled to world class professional health care, free and also disability benefits and posed that question.

nice as thailand is its health care and social security is nothing compared to the uk.

[Jip99]

thanks for sharing, quite an experience

i cant help asking would't you be better off in the UK with the NHS and disability payments?

You want him stuck in a hospital or a room having some nurse looking after him?

No, he has a fantastic Thai wife that takes care of all his needs and cares for him a lot.

He also has a beautiful house that he build before his accident.

UK can't offer him anything more than Thailand does.

less with the tone please. i dont want him to do anything he doesnt want to do

i merely suggested that as a uk citizen he is entitled to world class professional health care, free and also disability benefits and posed that question.

nice as thailand is its health care and social security is nothing compared to the uk.

Your question is a fair one.

In Colin's situation there was nothing to go back to - no family support and without the means to fund the horrendous costs of repatriation.

Where would he go? A UK hospital/care home ? Even Stoke Mandeville can't mend broken spines.

What about his loving wife - would he want to leave her behind in Thailand ?

No.

A good question samsensam but Colin, rightly in my view, decided that whatever life he had he wanted to share it with his wife in Thailand. Another benefit of being married to a government officer is the availability of healthcare at very reasonable prices

[dragonfly94]

what do you do all day Colin, can you get out a bit in a wheelchair? and by car of course?

Edited March 6, 2015 by dragonfly94

[Monkeyrobot]

I'd be paying the extra and send a hit squad after my ex if she did that.

[CharlieH]

I have removed what could be described as "badgering" of the OP and responses to it.

If the OP doesnt wish to discuss details of one aspect that's his prerogative and badgering him for what you "think you are entitled to" is not acceptable.

Any further incidents in this thread and direct action will be taken without further warning.

[BB24]

Another addition to my previous posts - and I am sure this one wont be removed

As I said before Colin - you are a hero to myself and many others, and your wife and her family are champions.

This post has given the opportunity for Farangs like myself who do have a wonderful Thai wife/gf to tell others. Not many of us have one that has proven herself to be as kind and loving and caring as Colin's - but we all hope that if it came to it that they would be. For those who have yet to find one, then let me tell you - they are not all evil bitches as some posters would have you think. Some blokes deserve to be taken to the cleaners and some are just unlucky. Keep trying as Colin did and if you are a good person, then one day things should go your way. There are many good ones out there, and I suggest those of you who have been unlucky, should perhaps look in other places for them.

This post has also given myself and others the opportunbity to learn who are the 'good guys' and who are the absolute dhead idiots. This time I will not name names, but clearly many agreed as they liked my post. So this time I will not name them - but we know who you are now, and any future comment under your names will be ignored and not read.

[n210mp]

I remember your last post Colin and sent my sincerest sympathies then (round the world cyclist). I can only tell you that I myself am a great believer in prayer (doesn't matter if you are or not) and my prayer is that you be given the strength and power to cope with all you have to cope with. I myself had my fair amount of up's and down's and I realized that a big stumbling block for me was my resentments against those that I felt played a big part in my situation. It wasn't until I came to forgive those that the healing really started (in my head anyway). I forgave them because it was necessary for my own recovery.....not for any benefit for them. I say this because I sensed in your last post that resentment might be playing a part in your life. If I picked that up wrong....please forgive me. GBU.

You're a big believer in prayer and you're only gonna ask for "power to cope". Why not pray for a new spinal cord for the poor guy? Just saying, since you're such a big believer and all that why not go for it with one of these powerful prayers? You're god has the power to heal right?

Im tempted to say "Ah just please JSTFU" for Gods sake!

But I wont but you people get me down sometimes with your self opinionated and negative remarks

If you dont have any good to say then why say something bad or negative.

For those who believe in their God , there is no proof needed

For those who dont believe , there will never be enough proof

Even that is not the point, there is sometimes a time in your life when you will "PRAY" and a good example of that is when the death of someone you love more than yourself is imminent

Dont knock it until you have been in that position

Speaking personally I have a belief but thats nothing to do with you or anyone else, please let the posters say their piece in a thread where comfort to people like Colin and others who may not subscribe but read these better threads is primary

People like yourself with possibly too much time on their hands to try start to take over this thread with a row about whether there is or isnt a God is pure flaming

PS Its just hit me like an hammer blow, maybe its you people should pray for and I do, I pray that you get an "empathy and kindness" streak to replace the bitter one that you seemingly have in abundance

Not being snarky at all just telling it as it is!

I was wrong in taking your bait, colin must be better tuned than me because He did the right thing and ignored your baiting post as did the poster you aimed your barb at

Edited March 6, 2015 by n210mp

[n210mp]

Just for informational purposes when Colin had his accident He was on his way out and going for a drink , in other words he was on his way to the pub or bar and was not under the influence of drink

[Jip99]

Another addition to my previous posts - and I am sure this one wont be removed

As I said before Colin - you are a hero to myself and many others, and your wife and her family are champions.

This post has given the opportunity for Farangs like myself who do have a wonderful Thai wife/gf to tell others. Not many of us have one that has proven herself to be as kind and loving and caring as Colin's - but we all hope that if it came to it that they would be. For those who have yet to find one, then let me tell you - they are not all evil bitches as some posters would have you think. Some blokes deserve to be taken to the cleaners and some are just unlucky. Keep trying as Colin did and if you are a good person, then one day things should go your way. There are many good ones out there, and I suggest those of you who have been unlucky, should perhaps look in other places for them.

This post has also given myself and others the opportunbity to learn who are the 'good guys' and who are the absolute dhead idiots. This time I will not name names, but clearly many agreed as they liked my post. So this time I will not name them - but we know who you are now, and any future comment under your names will be ignored and not read.

I also think that this post is as much about a first-hand experience of spending time in a Thai prison (and police cells) and dealing with Thai police procedures. I won't say justice because that should aklways be possible to achieve through a Thai legal system that has many parallels with the west. However, it is all too easy to find yourself on the wrong side of the 'law' initially.

Irrespective of Colin's accident and the loving care of his wife - these events were after the prison incident - it would be easy to fire cheap shots at someone who has admitted to having something of a 'colourful' past. However, he has had the guts (or stupidity) to openly share his experience and I applaud the way he has honestly done that.

[prakhonchai nick]

I will always remember seeing Colin in the back of the police pick up truck en route to Buriram, when he waved and smiled to his friends in the Prakhonchai coffee shop.

I will also always remember the look of strained happiness on his face, when I picked him up at 5.30pm outside the prison after 4 days of incarceration after posting bail. Colin thoroughly deserved the many beers he quaffed that evening.

Interestingly he was fined just 1,000baht for the offence of "injuring" his wife, when he pushed her away when she was about to stab him a 2nd time. Nobody in authority cared about his injury! The legal advice was to plead guilty (with a minimal fine) rather than to prolong things further, when it came to court nearly 3 months later! The fine was actually reduced to 200baht because of his 4 nights locked up.

Colin is a survivor - which he is clearly demonstrating now, and is fortunate to have the help, love and care of his wonderful wife.

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[infinity11]

Again, thanks for sharing and blessings, i am sure there are many a story similar, as bad, or worse even.

[Cypress Hill]

This post has also given myself and others the opportunbity to learn who are the 'good guys' and who are the absolute dhead idiots.

Hasn't it just?

Particularly those who continue to pepper the thread with personal insults for the sake of garnering "likes"

[Soutpeel]

Just for informational purposes when Colin had his accident He was on his way out and going for a drink , in other words he was on his way to the pub or bar and was not under the influence of drink

maybe try reading the posts then ?

Drink was not a factor in the alleged assault nor was it a factor in Colin's road traffic accident.

[Jessi]

I will always remember seeing Colin in the back of the police pick up truck en route to Buriram, when he waved and smiled to his friends in the Prakhonchai coffee shop.

I will also always remember the look of strained happiness on his face, when I picked him up at 5.30pm outside the prison after 4 days of incarceration after posting bail. Colin thoroughly deserved the many beers he quaffed that evening.

Interestingly he was fined just 1,000baht for the offence of "injuring" his wife, when he pushed her away when she was about to stab him a 2nd time. Nobody in authority cared about his injury! The legal advice was to plead guilty (with a minimal fine) rather than to prolong things further, when it came to court nearly 3 months later! The fine was actually reduced to 200baht because of his 4 nights locked up.

Colin is a survivor - which he is clearly demonstrating now, and is fortunate to have the help, love and care of his wonderful wife.

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Its because of people like yourself that Colin has such good friends. Good friends are a very rare breed in today's world.

I for one am so pleased Colin posted his story, it shows how easy it is here to get banged up here in Thailand, It has also given me the chance to speak with him on the phone and perhaps meet him in the near future. My wife & his wife are very similar, as Colin said like Diamonds.

You have some truly great friends Colin & I just hope I can be one of them.

Please take care of yourself & you have my phone number if you need to talk with me.

[colinneil]

Please let me take this opportunity to thank all the members on here for the lovely, heartwarming comments about myself and my diamond of a wife.

We are both humbled at the replies to my post. !! God bless you all !! Thank you both.

The few who belittled me and my post. I feel very sorry for you having such a cynical view on life, you few should be pitted not praised.

Also as members have seen both Jip 99 and Prakonchai Nick posted about my experience with the police. My most heartfelt thanks to you both.

Good friends 2 of the best people i have ever met. I cannot thank you enough for what you did to help me.

Also these 2 members are helping me again in my hour of need.

[CharlieH]

And on that note I think it would be a good time to close this.

All the best Colin.

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