neverdie Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Gee, we hit a sore spot with some dog lovers. Do you slap mosquitoes when one lands on your arm? I mean they have a right to live, breed and multiply? All of Gods creation have rights! Right? Save that Spider, save that Ant, they have a purpose on this earth.......get real! A dog is a dog, domesticated or wild. Does anyone go to jail or on death row for killing a mangy street dog? NO! Don't put dogs at the same level as humans. We are higher up in the food chain. Go ahead hug a Wolf in the wild, or a Coyote in the wild. Most have a fear of man. But will attack you in the woods if you show signs of an injury or unable to move about. Any animal will respond with food in hand over time. Its called domestication. Some can and some can't be domesticated. Killing a deer for meat is no different than killing a dog for meat. Same goes for Cats, Squirrels, Rabbits, Ground Hogs, Pigeons, or any other critter that gets in the way of a hungry human. These so called city dwellers have no inkling of how to hunt and capture animals for consumption. They are domesticated humans with store bought food packaged neatly, for consumption. They never think about how the food is processed. They turn their noses up on Horse meat, Moose meat, Bear meat, etc.etc.etc. Little do they realize that in time of wars, when food supplies are short, the first thing that is butchered, before the milking cow is the dog! It's a pity they don't cull idiots around this place. As I said before it must really cut some farang up, soi dogs can live in Thailand free without visas meanwhile you are rounded up and herded like cattle the only difference being thais really like cows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asiantravel Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 Gee, we hit a sore spot with some dog lovers. Do you slap mosquitoes when one lands on your arm? I mean they have a right to live, breed and multiply? All of Gods creation have rights! Right? Save that Spider, save that Ant, they have a purpose on this earth.......get real! A dog is a dog, domesticated or wild. Does anyone go to jail or on death row for killing a mangy street dog? NO! Don't put dogs at the same level as humans. We are higher up in the food chain. Go ahead hug a Wolf in the wild, or a Coyote in the wild. Most have a fear of man. But will attack you in the woods if you show signs of an injury or unable to move about. Any animal will respond with food in hand over time. Its called domestication. Some can and some can't be domesticated. Killing a deer for meat is no different than killing a dog for meat. Same goes for Cats, Squirrels, Rabbits, Ground Hogs, Pigeons, or any other critter that gets in the way of a hungry human. These so called city dwellers have no inkling of how to hunt and capture animals for consumption. They are domesticated humans with store bought food packaged neatly, for consumption. They never think about how the food is processed. They turn their noses up on Horse meat, Moose meat, Bear meat, etc.etc.etc. Little do they realize that in time of wars, when food supplies are short, the first thing that is butchered, before the milking cow is the dog! " Don't put dogs at the same level as humans " Oh I never do that! I remember an old monk in Chiang Mai telling me dogs and cats and other animals are more capable of being Buddha than humans and I could relate to that very well. Think about it................ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rijit Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 Gee, we hit a sore spot with some dog lovers. Do you slap mosquitoes when one lands on your arm? I mean they have a right to live, breed and multiply? All of Gods creation have rights! Right? Save that Spider, save that Ant, they have a purpose on this earth.......get real! A dog is a dog, domesticated or wild. Does anyone go to jail or on death row for killing a mangy street dog? NO! Don't put dogs at the same level as humans. We are higher up in the food chain. Go ahead hug a Wolf in the wild, or a Coyote in the wild. Most have a fear of man. But will attack you in the woods if you show signs of an injury or unable to move about. Any animal will respond with food in hand over time. Its called domestication. Some can and some can't be domesticated. Killing a deer for meat is no different than killing a dog for meat. Same goes for Cats, Squirrels, Rabbits, Ground Hogs, Pigeons, or any other critter that gets in the way of a hungry human. These so called city dwellers have no inkling of how to hunt and capture animals for consumption. They are domesticated humans with store bought food packaged neatly, for consumption. They never think about how the food is processed. They turn their noses up on Horse meat, Moose meat, Bear meat, etc.etc.etc. Little do they realize that in time of wars, when food supplies are short, the first thing that is butchered, before the milking cow is the dog! I quess its all about state of mind me i see animals not ultimatly as food and when i see the word butchering next to animals FOR ME i get a similar feeling when i read the death from gun stat's in the usa. apologies for innocent parties as i'm sure there must be some but actually i feel bemused at the absolute ignorance and stupidity supposedly civilised culture can impose on itself !!! wheras i feel nothing but empathy for innocent animals slaughtered for ignorant humans. Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post junk1e Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sadly these pages are followed by more than their fair share of trolls. Best policy is to ignore them. I actually feel sad that there are so many clearly westerners in Thailand who must be living such miserable lives, that the only pleasure they get is by attacking any positive story with comments clearly designed to inflame. A shame the admins don't remove them. If you look at the Soi Dog website you will notice that their main aim is sterilising dogs to reduce the population. The transformation on Phuket is remarkable in the 10 years I have lived here. 10 years ago you couldn't drive more than a few yards without seeing emaciated hairless dogs everywhere. There are still stray dogs here but far fewer and much healthier. In Bangkok they have been removing and poisoning dogs for years. Has it made any difference? No. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 as miracle gets the world award,what about an award for amanda who had already rescued 3 before. an angel sent from the kennals over RAINBOW BRIDGE. i am trying to think of one for the thai government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Crufts is a show for owners rather than the Dogs, many of them are clearly very odd for dog lovers. This year several dogs were poisoned and one died and another winning dog lover was filmed picking her dog up by it's tail. Any award from crufts is not worth much. Soi dogs are a major menace in Thailand, traffic and health hazzards, they shit piss bark and bite. They are worse pests than rats and need to be dealt with. Yet they are held up not as the pests they are but laughably as intelligent and noble The only good soi dogs, not adopted, are dead ones. Dogs are dogs and are all awesome because they have abilities and senses that are sometimes are even beyond the comprehension of humans. Just because they are not living in the home of a human doesn't mean that any one of them doesn't have the most amazing abilities. For example any one of them could turn into the most amazing rescue dog or cancer detection dog if they were given the training and opportunity. Would you turn back the opportunity for you to be rescued if your life was on the line just because that dog was once a soi dog?. Are you racist also? Edited March 14, 2015 by Asiantravel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Opinions are welcome, trolling isn't. Several posts removed. 9) You will not post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling. Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neverdie Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 Opinions are welcome, trolling isn't. Several posts removed. 9) You will not post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling. Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. You know what Roo, some people here can even turn a feel good nice story about a poor unfortunate boy and a sweet little dog into an anti Thai/bashing thread and until grubs like jungle flea or whatever are weeded out tvf will continue to look badly on all farang. Every time I see via the media some story about a dead farang a beaten farang or someone ripped off in one way or another I hope and pray it's one of these a.holes and not a decent one.....only it never works out like that. Anyway the forums rampant with these dead sheets and it's about time someone singled them out and told them to pull their heads in. You can stick my account on ban I couldn't give a shiit. Have a nice day. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post chrisinth Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> A great story..... and one in the eye for those who denigrate Thai street dogs! Yes, a great story, but the dog is not a Thai street dog any longer, nor did it have the chance to grow up in that environment and learn feral ways. Your assumption is ridiculous to people who have legitimate arguments, concerns and unheard cases against feral Thai street dogs. Because it was given the proper attention and training, this dog has absolutely nothing in common with Thai street dogs, and were you to put it back on the streets, it would be killed by those street dogs within days... much like people who hate those of their own race because they become educated and civilized. Yep, good post (and points) cup-O-coffee. The story is about a relationship between a 6 year old boy with cerebral palsy and autism and a rescued dog aptly named Miracle. A touching story I might add as the relationship may be bringing some peace to the boy. Why can't people just leave it there? If posters have problems with soi dogs, then start yet another thread about them and how the personally annoy you. As said above, this is not about a soi dog, but about a bond between a handicapped child and a rescued animal who has had a second chance at life. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asiantravel Posted March 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> A great story..... and one in the eye for those who denigrate Thai street dogs! Yes, a great story, but the dog is not a Thai street dog any longer, nor did it have the chance to grow up in that environment and learn feral ways. Your assumption is ridiculous to people who have legitimate arguments, concerns and unheard cases against feral Thai street dogs. Because it was given the proper attention and training, this dog has absolutely nothing in common with Thai street dogs, and were you to put it back on the streets, it would be killed by those street dogs within days... much like people who hate those of their own race because they become educated and civilized. Yep, good post (and points) cup-O-coffee. The story is about a relationship between a 6 year old boy with cerebral palsy and autism and a rescued dog aptly named Miracle. A touching story I might add as the relationship may be bringing some peace to the boy. Why can't people just leave it there? If posters have problems with soi dogs, then start yet another thread about them and how the personally annoy you. As said above, this is not about a soi dog, but about a bond between a handicapped child and a rescued animal who has had a second chance at life. “and a rescued animal who has had a second chance at life “ it’s quite ironic that many of soi dogs are feral because of their huge distrust of people because of cruelty but then on top of that some people want to punish them again by not giving them a second chance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yes but this family will actually look after the dogs,unlike here,were they are barley fed,allowed to roam the streets,and bark and howl all damn night. **** off marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Brilliant story and not one jumper mentioned in the whole article looks a lovely dog and sounds like he has a very loving family now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Amazing story, truely inspirational, please post more of these types of story TV, in between the scams, fights and murders a few happy stories wouldn't go amiss. Exactly! Here is a thought provoking article from yesterday's Independent the UK. Not necessarily happy but insightful http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/witness-the-final-walk-of-a-dog-and-know-all-you-need-to-know-of-dignity-in-death-and-life-10107172.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Gee, we hit a sore spot with some dog lovers. Do you slap mosquitoes when one lands on your arm? I mean they have a right to live, breed and multiply? All of Gods creation have rights! Right? Save that Spider, save that Ant, they have a purpose on this earth.......get real! A dog is a dog, domesticated or wild. Does anyone go to jail or on death row for killing a mangy street dog? NO! Don't put dogs at the same level as humans. We are higher up in the food chain. Go ahead hug a Wolf in the wild, or a Coyote in the wild. Most have a fear of man. But will attack you in the woods if you show signs of an injury or unable to move about. Any animal will respond with food in hand over time. Its called domestication. Some can and some can't be domesticated. Killing a deer for meat is no different than killing a dog for meat. Same goes for Cats, Squirrels, Rabbits, Ground Hogs, Pigeons, or any other critter that gets in the way of a hungry human. These so called city dwellers have no inkling of how to hunt and capture animals for consumption. They are domesticated humans with store bought food packaged neatly, for consumption. They never think about how the food is processed. They turn their noses up on Horse meat, Moose meat, Bear meat, etc.etc.etc. Little do they realize that in time of wars, when food supplies are short, the first thing that is butchered, before the milking cow is the dog! Interesting - your views seem to be that God gave man dominion over animals - to do what they please. The arrogance that humans are higher up in the food chain is destroying the planet. You put humans on some type of pedestal , why there are an awful lot of them- they are no important than any other critter or species on the planet ( I presume you are American - some of whose citizens pay to kill elephants and seem to want and kill for no real reason - apart from the stuffed head on the wall) Anyone with a little intelligence would realise that God does not exist. All living organisms are the product of evolution. Humans have manipulated the genetics of dogs through selective breeding for thousands of years. A dog is only a few genes away from humans- exactly the same basic physiology and they can be companions, guardians , they feel emotions , can communicate , feel pain- they are sentient beings. A mosquito is none of these things. Humans are responsible for the existence of millions of dogs- we should take care of them . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yes but this family will actually look after the dogs,unlike here,were they are barley fed,allowed to roam the streets,and bark and howl all damn night. And bite people as happened to the mrs yesterday and four others by the same dog. These cute dog stories make me puke, they do nothing to address to soi dog problem at all, unless about another 500,000 do gooders are going to adopt the rest of the vermin. Lets just hope this dog does not rip the kids face off. ive also noticed, that its only the falang who moan all the time about soi dogs, another thing about thailand that dosnt suit the falang so lets get rid of it, this isnt our country soi dogs have been about long before we came here, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Superb touching story. I also hope never to meet up with Dragonfly94 with his pseudo Byzantine picture image ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Gee, we hit a sore spot with some dog lovers. Do you slap mosquitoes when one lands on your arm? I mean they have a right to live, breed and multiply? All of Gods creation have rights! Right? Save that Spider, save that Ant, they have a purpose on this earth.......get real! A dog is a dog, domesticated or wild. Does anyone go to jail or on death row for killing a mangy street dog? NO! Don't put dogs at the same level as humans. We are higher up in the food chain. Go ahead hug a Wolf in the wild, or a Coyote in the wild. Most have a fear of man. But will attack you in the woods if you show signs of an injury or unable to move about. Any animal will respond with food in hand over time. Its called domestication. Some can and some can't be domesticated. Killing a deer for meat is no different than killing a dog for meat. Same goes for Cats, Squirrels, Rabbits, Ground Hogs, Pigeons, or any other critter that gets in the way of a hungry human. These so called city dwellers have no inkling of how to hunt and capture animals for consumption. They are domesticated humans with store bought food packaged neatly, for consumption. They never think about how the food is processed. They turn their noses up on Horse meat, Moose meat, Bear meat, etc.etc.etc. Little do they realize that in time of wars, when food supplies are short, the first thing that is butchered, before the milking cow is the dog! Interesting - your views seem to be that God gave man dominion over animals - to do what they please. The arrogance that humans are higher up in the food chain is destroying the planet. You put humans on some type of pedestal , why there are an awful lot of them- they are no important than any other critter or species on the planet ( I presume you are American - some of whose citizens pay to kill elephants and seem to want and kill for no real reason - apart from the stuffed head on the wall) Anyone with a little intelligence would realise that God does not exist. All living organisms are the product of evolution. Humans have manipulated the genetics of dogs through selective breeding for thousands of years. A dog is only a few genes away from humans- exactly the same basic physiology and they can be companions, guardians , they feel emotions , can communicate , feel pain- they are sentient beings. A mosquito is none of these things. Humans are responsible for the existence of millions of dogs- we should take care of them . " The arrogance that humans are higher up in the food chain is destroying the planet." Actually Peter one of my favourite actors Dustin Hoffman goes even beyond saying we are arrogant. When he was interviewed on the set as they filmed the movie “ Outbreak “ years ago (about a fictional ebola like disease) he said it was only humans that were out of step with the ecosystem and that we humans were probably a virus on the planet. Look around there isn’t much evidence to suggest otherwise in terms of what we have done regarding nuclear pollution from Fukushima affecting the whole Pacific region, raping of the tropical rain forests and even turning the air in places like China ( and even North Thailand right now ) into a fully toxic hazard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 i think there are a few confused members who have got the 4 legged dogs mixed up with some of the 2 legged ones that they got bitten by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsycat Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Miracle is not the only soi dog to have been adopted and brought to Europe, or even the States or Australia. There are hundreds of dogs adopted in Thailand and brought to have a better life. In fact, a lot of Swiss do it. And i have not read in my local papers here of any of those dogs attacking or mauling anyone here. And i can tell you that it would have been big news in this small country. And of the stories of people being attacked by a dog - the dogs were not from Thailand. I'm getting a bit sick of the nasties trawling around fora. Throwing out their stupid comments. A nice story has to be sabotaged and made "dirty". Very sad. But who cares about them, the majority of us love this story and wish Miracle and his family all the best. Edited March 16, 2015 by Patsycat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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