eaustev Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 No wonder that most of the cars are going to Aussie Land if that is how much they can get for them ... yes here's hoping the Thai version has active noise control I thought active noise control was when you told the missus to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 No wonder that most of the cars are going to Aussie Land if that is how much they can get for them ... yes here's hoping the Thai version has active noise control I thought active noise control was when you told the missus to get out. But if I chuck out the missus I've lost my curse control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTO Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Our Everest (2 years old) has GPS - not sure why you think not possible? Amazed no ones mentioned another thing we don't get here. You can move the brake/accelerator pedal electrically to suit the seating position on this years Tahoe. They don't even have driver memory for the driver's chair or mirrors Ace.... you have to crawl before you can walk Mr IMHODo I recall you stating a while ago that 'someone' was trying to adapt the Everest 'screen' to enable GPS. I'm fairly sure that it was you but can't locate the topic. Any update on this please. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Mr IMHO explained the reason, better than I can, it's in this topic somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Another review here: http://paultan.org/2015/08/07/driven-2015-ford-everest-2-2l-and-3-2l-in-chiang-rai/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Our Everest (2 years old) has GPS - not sure why you think not possible? You're the CTO - you tell us then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disting Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Korat dealer told me the demo car is arriving on the 20th August. Might just get a test drive in before heading to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Spotted the new Everest on transporter heading to Chiang Mai Ford this morning. Looked good, in that dark red colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Spotted the new Everest on transporter heading to Chiang Mai Ford this morning. Looked good, in that dark red colour. Yes it did. Went to see it yesterday. Couldn't test drive it, but drove the new Ranger 2.2 instead. I liked the Ranger a lot too.. To the point that I'm now struggling to justify paying 400,000 extra for the Everest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Spotted the new Everest on transporter heading to Chiang Mai Ford this morning. Looked good, in that dark red colour. Yes it did. Went to see it yesterday. Couldn't test drive it, but drove the new Ranger 2.2 instead. I liked the Ranger a lot too.. To the point that I'm now struggling to justify paying 400,000 extra for the Everest.. 20150809_153723.jpg 20150809_153751.jpg 20150809_153643.jpg Depends on what you need. The everest has a much better suspension and ride comfort. OTOH The ranger will be 'quicker' but have a harder ride. The everest 2.2. and 3.2 are similar off the line but the 3.2 has much better power at higher speeds. It's not an easy choice to make. I just feel the ranger has all that wasted space at the back that I would not use often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The Thai version of the Ford website now has an updated section for the Everest: http://www.ford.co.th/suvs/all-new-everest?intcmp=bb-fth-hp-fth-vhp-ford%20everest-return The good news is, it looks like TH models do get the active noise cancelling tech (previously omitted from all spec sheets) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The Thai version of the Ford website now has an updated section for the Everest: http://www.ford.co.th/suvs/all-new-everest?intcmp=bb-fth-hp-fth-vhp-ford%20everest-return The good news is, it looks like TH models do get the active noise cancelling tech (previously omitted from all spec sheets) Does that work with the kids in the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Yep, the kids actively cancel road noise by making louder more annoying noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Another Aussie review here: http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/9A64C8B1F671C178CA257E9200046685 Large potholes, unsealed roads and annoying corrugations were handled beautifully in the Everest, making for an extremely comfortable ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Our Everest (2 years old) has GPS - not sure why you think not possible? Amazed no ones mentioned another thing we don't get here. You can move the brake/accelerator pedal electrically to suit the seating position on this years Tahoe. They don't even have driver memory for the driver's chair or mirrors Ace.... you have to crawl before you can walk Mr IMHODo I recall you stating a while ago that 'someone' was trying to adapt the Everest 'screen' to enable GPS. I'm fairly sure that it was you but can't locate the topic. Any update on this please. thanks The new wildtrak in Aus gets sat nav so surely it aint all that hard to have it fitted to the Everest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Ford AU really do beleive the Everest is a cut above the rest - the prices Aussies are going to have to pay to have an Everest in their driveway are incredible.. Ford some perspective: A top spec MU-X retails for AUD $53,500 A top spec (previous gen) PJS retails for AUD $49,990 A top spec Trailblazer retails for AUD $51,490 .....and these all have higher spec levels than their Thai equivalents. The top spec Everest goes for, wait for it.... AUD $76,990 - around 50% more than cars costing 1.4M Baht here. Would you still buy an Everest if it cost 2.1M Baht? How much is it going to cost next year ....Will it be possible to get the GPS on your phone to show on the display ... or I might be back to my Garmin 3770 .... Again, who knows... somewhere between 100K and 200K more the top spec T+ would be my best guess though. As for integrating GPS on your phone with the screen, that may be possible via AppLink - but according to what I can see, it doesn't yet support any GPS apps. Bear in mind that it's not just "sending video to the screen" - the SYNC2 system in the Everest has 3 screens, steering wheel controls and voice commands - AppLink is definitely the proper solution... 'Someone' who works for Ford ... not my dealer ... sent me this yesterday ........... "About the sync2 you can't put the navigation display on the car's screen (only in Thailand) its best to use an external gps or a phone holder But the screen sync2 comes with the navigation menu (compass) but no program installed this problem is due to the Ford it self won't buy a navigation program licence.?" ....... After I asked him 'how to'. Doesn't sound too good. I wonder if later in the day Ford will have a change of mind and charge a huge price for GPS. I don't really fancy going back to a small screen with wires dangling but Mrs JAS is keen on the EV. It is a cheaper option for me as if I buy a car we will have to keep the truck. Edited August 16, 2015 by JAS21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Ford AU really do beleive the Everest is a cut above the rest - the prices Aussies are going to have to pay to have an Everest in their driveway are incredible.. Ford some perspective: A top spec MU-X retails for AUD $53,500 A top spec (previous gen) PJS retails for AUD $49,990 A top spec Trailblazer retails for AUD $51,490 .....and these all have higher spec levels than their Thai equivalents. The top spec Everest goes for, wait for it.... AUD $76,990 - around 50% more than cars costing 1.4M Baht here. Would you still buy an Everest if it cost 2.1M Baht? How much is it going to cost next year ....Will it be possible to get the GPS on your phone to show on the display ... or I might be back to my Garmin 3770 .... Again, who knows... somewhere between 100K and 200K more the top spec T+ would be my best guess though. As for integrating GPS on your phone with the screen, that may be possible via AppLink - but according to what I can see, it doesn't yet support any GPS apps. Bear in mind that it's not just "sending video to the screen" - the SYNC2 system in the Everest has 3 screens, steering wheel controls and voice commands - AppLink is definitely the proper solution... 'Someone' who works for Ford ... not my dealer ... sent me this yesterday ........... "About the sync2 you can't put the navigation display on the car's screen (only in Thailand) its best to use an external gps or a phone holder But the screen sync2 comes with the navigation menu (compass) but no program installed this problem is due to the Ford it self won't buy a navigation program licence.?" ....... After I asked him 'how to'. Doesn't sound too good. I wonder if later in the day Ford will have a change of mind and charge a huge price for GPS. I don't really fancy going back to a small screen with wires dangling but Mrs JAS is keen on the EV. It is a cheaper option for me as if I buy a car we will have to keep the truck. Let's see if Applink can expand to include at least one useful GPS app... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thought they were playing Motley Ford when viewed on i phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thought they were playing Motley Ford when viewed on i phone. You just reminded me of this: great Sunday movie in the man cave too (when there's no F1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It reminded Me of "Desperate Don Mega". . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You just cant <deleted> help yourself can ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 No GPS, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 No GPS, seriously? Yeah, it's a glaring omission. I know that Sync1 (the version with the 4" screen in the Fiesta and 2014 Ranger) only supports English voice commands, and that Thai's can have problems being understood by it even with their best efforts. The say they have improved it's voice command comprehension in SYNC2, but it's still hard to imagine how it could work for GPS without actual Thai Language support.. I have this vision of it working perfectly for Microsoft engineers speaking Thai place names using their best tourist pronunciations, but failing spectacularly when confronted by an actual Thai speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) The Parrot Bluetooth kit I have make some interesting interpretations of Thai names so I can understand Ford's problem. Does the Sync system have an alternative interface to voice commands, touch screen or buttons? Couldn't GPS be included with out voice control? Edited August 17, 2015 by Jitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 That's a shame, and it may be a deal breaker for quite a few people. I don't know that I'd want to get along without it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 No GPS, seriously? Yeah, it's a glaring omission. I know that Sync1 (the version with the 4" screen in the Fiesta and 2014 Ranger) only supports English voice commands, and that Thai's can have problems being understood by it even with their best efforts. The say they have improved it's voice command comprehension in SYNC2, but it's still hard to imagine how it could work for GPS without actual Thai Language support.. I have this vision of it working perfectly for Microsoft engineers speaking Thai place names using their best tourist pronunciations, but failing spectacularly when confronted by an actual Thai speaker I watched an online review of the Ecosport a while back done in India. Similar hilarity ensued when the reviewer tried to demonstrate the voice command capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) The Parrot Bluetooth kit I have make some interesting interpretations of Thai names so I can understand Ford's problem. Does the Sync system have an alternative interface to voice commands, touch screen or buttons? Couldn't GPS be included with out voice control? It has AppLink - a special system that phone app developers can hook into, providing the app with: 1. Ability to control what's displayed on the 8" central display 2. Control over the "soft buttons" displayed at the bottom of the screen 3. Specify a set of voice commands their app can respond to 4. Drive an additional UI that gets displayed one of the two 4.2" screens that flank the speedometer A decent solution here would just be a 3rd party navigation app vendor to make their app "AppLink" compatible.. the problem is, the AppLink in SYNC2 isn't very navigation app friendly, apparently. On that front, Ford are working on Applink 3.0 which implements more standard protocols for navigation app integration, but it's not yet clear if that can/will be offered as an upgrade for SYNC2 systems, or whether it's going to require SYNC3 or even SYNC4. Edited August 17, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) No GPS, seriously? Yeah, it's a glaring omission. I know that Sync1 (the version with the 4" screen in the Fiesta and 2014 Ranger) only supports English voice commands, and that Thai's can have problems being understood by it even with their best efforts. The say they have improved it's voice command comprehension in SYNC2, but it's still hard to imagine how it could work for GPS without actual Thai Language support.. I have this vision of it working perfectly for Microsoft engineers speaking Thai place names using their best tourist pronunciations, but failing spectacularly when confronted by an actual Thai speaker I watched an online review of the Ecosport a while back done in India. Similar hilarity ensued when the reviewer tried to demonstrate the voice command capability. Hehheee Even worse in Thai... just think about "Phetchaburi" - with tourist pronunciation that becomes "Fetch a boo ree", vs "petboor-ee" in Thai Note: I've literally been stumped by that one, thinking someone was asking me to find a store that sells cigarettes Edited August 17, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467848 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 No GPS, seriously? Yeah, it's a glaring omission. I know that Sync1 (the version with the 4" screen in the Fiesta and 2014 Ranger) only supports English voice commands, and that Thai's can have problems being understood by it even with their best efforts. The say they have improved it's voice command comprehension in SYNC2, but it's still hard to imagine how it could work for GPS without actual Thai Language support.. I have this vision of it working perfectly for Microsoft engineers speaking Thai place names using their best tourist pronunciations, but failing spectacularly when confronted by an actual Thai speaker I watched an online review of the Ecosport a while back done in India. Similar hilarity ensued when the reviewer tried to demonstrate the voice command capability. Hehheee Even worse in Thai... just think about "Phetchaburi" - with tourist pronunciation that becomes "Fetch a boo ree", vs "petboor-ee" in Thai Note: I've literally been stumped by that one, thinking someone was asking me to find a store that sells cigarettes Original PJS owners had the same problem in that the GPS was not integrated.. you had to buy an external GPS that the Mitsu garage conveniently had for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYKTHEMIN Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I know that Sync1 (the version with the 4" screen in the Fiesta and 2014 Ranger) only supports English voice commands, and that Thai's can have problems being understood by it even with their best efforts. The say they have improved it's voice command comprehension in SYNC2, but it's still hard to imagine how it could work for GPS without actual Thai Language support.. I have this vision of it working perfectly for Microsoft engineers speaking Thai place names using their best tourist pronunciations, but failing spectacularly when confronted by an actual Thai speaker I watched an online review of the Ecosport a while back done in India. Similar hilarity ensued when the reviewer tried to demonstrate the voice command capability. Hehheee Even worse in Thai... just think about "Phetchaburi" - with tourist pronunciation that becomes "Fetch a boo ree", vs "petboor-ee" in Thai Note: I've literally been stumped by that one, thinking someone was asking me to find a store that sells cigarettes Original PJS owners had the same problem in that the GPS was not integrated.. you had to buy an external GPS that the Mitsu garage conveniently had for sale Mine was free, and jolly good it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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