Thailand ranked in middle related to death penalty abolishing

[Lite Beer]

Thailand ranked in middle related to death penalty abolishing

BANGKOK: -- Thailand ranked somewhere in the middle when it comes to abolishing death penalty among nations in the Southeast Asian region and the kingdom was criticized for a 'lack of tangible advancement' towards abolishing death penalty in a latest United Nations report released Friday.

Although Cambodia, the Philippines and Timor-Leste have abolished death penalty, Thailand still maintains its death penalty although no execution has taken place since 2009 and is regarded as a 'rententionist state'.

As of 30 June 2014, there were at least 612 people under sentence of death in the kingdom and the year 2013 alone saw 294 people sentenced to death.

Crimes punishable by death in Thailand includes offences against royalty, internal and external security, and liberty, and offences relating to sexuality causing death.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Thailand-ranked-in-middle-related-to-death-penalty-30256877.html

-- The Nation 2015-03-27

[ron1964]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

[Lite Beer]

Thailand among group in Southeast Asia not abolishing death penalty: UN report
Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- THAILAND ranks somewhere in the middle among nations in Southeast Asia when it comes to abolishing the death penalty, with the Kingdom criticised for a "lack of tangible advancement" towards abolishing executions in a United Nations report released yesterday (Fri).

Although Cambodia, the Philippines and East Timor have abolished the death penalty, Thailand still maintains it, although no execution has taken place since 2009 and the country is regarded as a "retentionist state".

As of June 30 last year, there were at least 612 people on "death row" in the Kingdom and the year 2013 alone saw 294 people sentenced to death.

Crimes punishable by death in Thailand include offences against royalty, internal and external security, and liberty, and offences relating to sexuality causing death.

The 44-page report by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights' regional office for Southeast Asia, titled "Moving Away from the Death Penalty: Lessons in Southeast Asia", noted that Thailand, in its most recent review by the Committee against Torture, had stated that it would consider a moratorium on the death penalty.

"Abolition of the death penalty was included in the draft of [Thailand's] Third National Human Rights Action Plan (2014-2018), but there has since been a lack of tangible advancement in abolishing the death penalty, and a high number of death sentences were passed in 2013, almost half of them [for] drug-related offences," the report stated.

It said recommended that Thailand impose a moratorium on the death penalty with a view to abolition, as outlined in the current National Human Rights Action Plan.

The outlook in Southeast Asia is mixed, as the report stated that of the 11 countries in the region, Cambodia, East Timor and the Philippines had consistently voted for UN General Assembly resolutions on moratoriums on the use of the death penalty. But Brunei, Malaysia, Myanmar and Singapore have consistently voted against such resolutions.

Thailand voted against the moratorium in 2007 and 2008 but changed its position by abstaining from voting in 2010 and 2012. Despite this, the report noted that Southeast Asia is generally part of the global trend against practising the death penalty.

All countries in Southeast Asia have legislation that ensures exceptions to the death penalty for children, pregnant women, and people with mental or intellectual disabilities.

The report also noted that while some 160 countries had either abolished the death penalty, observed a moratorium or ceased practising it, a minority of countries still execute people.

"In some of these countries, the death penalty is mandatory for drug-related offences. The mandatory death penalty is problematic because it goes against the prohibition of the arbitrary deprivation of life and violates the right to fair trial."

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Thailand-among-group-in-Southeast-Asia-not-abolish-30256909.html

-- The Nation 2015-03-28

[chooka]

If the abolish the death penalty how can prayuth execute those that oppose him. He has now just granted himself ultimate power which means he now has the authority to kill anyone who speaks against him. The death penalty will be here as long as prayuth is in charge.

[BSJ]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

I agree, get rid of the poison before it does anymore harm.

[JOC]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

The caveman strikes again!!

[issanaus]

Are the ex-judicial killing in Thaksins war against drugs counted in this analysis?

[JoePai]

"lack of tangible advancement" could be applied to many things in Thailand

[trainman34014]

If the abolish the death penalty how can prayuth execute those that oppose him. He has now just granted himself ultimate power which means he now has the authority to kill anyone who speaks against him. The death penalty will be here as long as prayuth is in charge.

You don't need a death penalty for extra judicial killings. The country is under Martial Law and the Army will use whatever force is deemed required by its leaders. The Military in Thailand is a law unto itself.

[Thakkar]

Here's something The Moral Promotion Centre could work on. There is certainly no moral grounds, especially in the Buddhist context, but even from the New Testament point of view, for the Sate to take a life as punishment.

T

[Robby nz]

So whose going to do the sanctions on this one, cant be the US this time.

And why pick on South East Asia and Thailand in particular ?

[ChrisY1]

Whether Thailand abolishes the death sentence will really make little difference.....executions are an daily event here!

[Snig27]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

I was told that you are guilty of some of these things and - look - a dodgy court (like the ones in Indonesia, the USA and China that regularly pass down the sentences - and in Thailand) has been convinced of it so you're about to get strung up or shot. Are you okay with that? Because the percentage of innocent people that have been executed over the years is fairly high. What right have you got to say those people need to die to satisfy your primeval urge to retaliate? Maybe it's "leftie" to aspire to live in a world where innocents are not killed by the state for something they didn't do. Because no matter how hard you try to ensure it's not so, it happens. If you're okay with that, I'm not sure you are much different to some of those you want killed.

Coupled with the fact, it simply doesn't work as a deterrent and that in US death penalty states you are more likely to be murdered http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

Edited March 28, 2015 by Snig27

[Snig27]

Are the ex-judicial killing in Thaksins war against drugs counted in this analysis?

You are aware of who else was a party in those killings aren't you? I'm not going to say more, but the information offshore is voluminous if you look.

[Alwyn]

No surprise there then considering just in the last couple of days the Prayuth announced the death penalty for people trafficking

[sagittarius6999]

Why do countries worry about what others think about the death penalty, it is up to each country to decide its own policy and then commit to it and execute the people within a year. Having people on death row for 20 years, like the USA is a joke. Apart from the natural justice of the death penalty, it is cost effective, why spend fortunes looking after them for maybe 40 years. To those people who talk about innocent peole being executed, thats accepable, its the same as getting knocked down by a truck or a tree falling on you, its just bad luck.

[NickJ]

Kill em all let God sort em out!!!!

[fatjack]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

sorry mate, no backlash, us lefty tree huggers have nothing but pity for the simple minded, easily led pauline hansonites. there's more chance of prayuth winning a free and fair election than there is of australia bringing the death penalty back - less than zero. most of us aussies (though clearly not all) are far to decent for such barbarities.

[JOC]

Why do countries worry about what others think about the death penalty, it is up to each country to decide its own policy and then commit to it and execute the people within a year. Having people on death row for 20 years, like the USA is a joke. Apart from the natural justice of the death penalty, it is cost effective, why spend fortunes looking after them for maybe 40 years. To those people who talk about innocent peole being executed, thats accepable, its the same as getting knocked down by a truck or a tree falling on you, its just bad luck.

To those people who talk about innocent peole being executed, thats accepable, its the same as getting knocked down by a truck or a tree falling on you, its just bad luck.

George W Bush would be proud of you!!

[jesimps]

If the abolish the death penalty how can prayuth execute those that oppose him. He has now just granted himself ultimate power which means he now has the authority to kill anyone who speaks against him. The death penalty will be here as long as prayuth is in charge.

Pro democratically-legal death penalty for murder maak maak

[ron1964]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

I was told that you are guilty of some of these things and - look - a dodgy court (like the ones in Indonesia, the USA and China that regularly pass down the sentences - and in Thailand) has been convinced of it so you're about to get strung up or shot. Are you okay with that? Because the percentage of innocent people that have been executed over the years is fairly high. What right have you got to say those people need to die to satisfy your primeval urge to retaliate? Maybe it's "leftie" to aspire to live in a world where innocents are not killed by the state for something they didn't do. Because no matter how hard you try to ensure it's not so, it happens. If you're okay with that, I'm not sure you are much different to some of those you want killed.

Coupled with the fact, it simply doesn't work as a deterrent and that in US death penalty states you are more likely to be murdered http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

No worries Snig, pop a few more happy pills, and go back to la-la land !

[LuckyLew]

Why should they abolish the death penalty

There are some cases where it is really warranted

Serial killers, rapists and peado all deserve it in my opinion

[ron1964]

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

sorry mate, no backlash, us lefty tree huggers have nothing but pity for the simple minded, easily led pauline hansonites. there's more chance of prayuth winning a free and fair election than there is of australia bringing the death penalty back - less than zero. most of us aussies (though clearly not all) are far to decent for such barbarities.

no need to be sorry mate, but save your pity for the victims of crime, generally committed by repeat dangerous offenders who have been let off lightly or not removed from the streets by limp wristed judges and weak policies. By the way I vote Liberal, never been a fan of Pauline (sorry to disappoint!!)

[sagittarius6999]

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Posted Today, 03:05

Snig27, on 28 Mar 2015 - 10:32, said:

ron1964, on 27 Mar 2015 - 22:37, said:

It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well !

I was told that you are guilty of some of these things and - look - a dodgy court (like the ones in Indonesia, the USA and China that regularly pass down the sentences - and in Thailand) has been convinced of it so you're about to get strung up or shot. Are you okay with that? Because the percentage of innocent people that have been executed over the years is fairly high. What right have you got to say those people need to die to satisfy your primeval urge to retaliate? Maybe it's "leftie" to aspire to live in a world where innocents are not killed by the state for something they didn't do. Because no matter how hard you try to ensure it's not so, it happens. If you're okay with that, I'm not sure you are much different to some of those you want killed.

Coupled with the fact, it simply doesn't work as a deterrent and that in US death penalty states you are more likely to be murdered http://www.deathpena...er-murder-rates

[Robby nz]

Member PipPip 21 posts Posted Today, 03:05 Snig27, on 28 Mar 2015 - 10:32, said: ron1964, on 27 Mar 2015 - 22:37, said: It should be kick started again, to ensure that serial sex offenders,child sex offenders and the like never have the opportunity to re offend. Likewise for terrorists,drug traffickers etc. Waiting for the obvious backlash from the lefties,tree huggers and ilk !! Bring it back in Australia as well ! I was told that you are guilty of some of these things and - look - a dodgy court (like the ones in Indonesia, the USA and China that regularly pass down the sentences - and in Thailand) has been convinced of it so you're about to get strung up or shot. Are you okay with that? Because the percentage of innocent people that have been executed over the years is fairly high. What right have you got to say those people need to die to satisfy your primeval urge to retaliate? Maybe it's "leftie" to aspire to live in a world where innocents are not killed by the state for something they didn't do. Because no matter how hard you try to ensure it's not so, it happens. If you're okay with that, I'm not sure you are much different to some of those you want killed. Coupled with the fact, it simply doesn't work as a deterrent and that in US death penalty states you are more likely to be murdered http://www.deathpena...er-murder-rates

It is however true that no one who has ever been subjected to the death penalty for murder or any other crime has ever committed that or any other crime again therefor it has been a great deterrent against repeat offending.