Switching from PC to MAC what was hard getting used to?

[SandyBear]

While this discussion is entertaining and will never get a definitive answer, I'd throw this onto the OP table:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9343-laptop/dncwt5101s

Another slim option and dell will probably be able to give you any desired keyboard...

Edited April 10, 2015 by SandyBear

[IMHO]

While this discussion is entertaining and will never get a definitive answer, I'd throw this onto the OP table:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9343-laptop/dncwt5101s

Another slim option and will probably be able to give you any desired keyboard...

The similar spec Macbook Air is 15K Baht cheaper than the Dell XPS 13 in TH. I know which one I'd buy

http://www.dell-thailand.com/laptop/xps/default.aspx

http://store.apple.com/th-en/buy-mac/macbook-air

[SandyBear]

While this discussion is entertaining and will never get a definitive answer, I'd throw this onto the OP table:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9343-laptop/dncwt5101s

Another slim option and will probably be able to give you any desired keyboard...

The similar spec Macbook Air is 15K Baht cheaper than the Dell XPS 13 in TH. I know which one I'd buy

http://www.dell-thailand.com/laptop/xps/default.aspx

http://store.apple.com/th-en/buy-mac/macbook-air

You're preaching to the choir....

I have no own experience of service or support of either brand in sol. But if dell is able to charge these prices, that's great for them... I was just trying to point out other options IF you're a win fan boy.

I'm persoanlly in the OS X camp, though, and can honestly state the my MacBook Air 11 was my best laptop- ever... (Just getting started with the new i7 air 13..

[lvr181]

While this discussion is entertaining and will never get a definitive answer, I'd throw this onto the OP table:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9343-laptop/dncwt5101s

Another slim option and will probably be able to give you any desired keyboard...

The similar spec Macbook Air is 15K Baht cheaper than the Dell XPS 13 in TH. I know which one I'd buy

http://www.dell-thailand.com/laptop/xps/default.aspx

http://store.apple.com/th-en/buy-mac/macbook-air

Wow! So Dell is now aiming to be No 1 in the overcharging/overpriced business?

[MJKT2014]

Clearly you're not 'most people', then.

Wikipedia lists "most people" as follows - you do the math.

Windows 7 58.04%

Windows XP 16.94%

Windows 8.1 10.55%

Mac OS X 10.10 3.96%

Windows 8 3.52%

Windows Vista 1.97%

Mac OS X (other) 1.71%

Mac OS X 10.9 1.61%

Linux 1.50%

Windows (other) 0.20%

Desktop OS market share as of March 2015 according to Net Applications^[

[rakman]

Thanks for replies. MAC is tempting, little worried about devil in details of switching to Apple OS. Old Window files etc. I detest typing on Pads, I need the haptic feel.

MacAir has 2 Pounds, Retina Eye?? Is it really pleasing, not tiring on my own eyes?

Windows Office files can be handled by NeoOffice which has word processing, spreadsheets, etc. For regular txt files, Macs work well, also.

OS X can also read and write NTFS usb drives, as well as FAT formatted usb drives.

Retina is the high resolution screen. Old MACs have had nice graphics and screens, and the Retina is even better.

Snipping tools were in the Mac OSX a long time ago, which was included in Vista.

I enjoy my old Macbook Pro 17, which I don't travel with. Using Remote desktop on it is even better than a Windows laptop.

When traveling I have a Lenovo Yoga II, which is light like a Mac Air, but using it I miss the Macbook.

Switching between OSX and Windows isn't difficult, and you can always google for an answer.

The Mac hardware is a bit pricier than a Windows platform, but you do get some premium features.

[livinthailandos]

Many answers to this. However everything depends on the individual. Personally I have no preference, I've used Windows, Mac, Linux. Each has its own learning curve.

[SoiBiker]

I don't really see the relevance of those stats at this point in the conversation. But thanks for making the effort, I guess.

[THAIPHUKET]

SoiBiker, you are absolutely right! The problems is that in no forum the original poster can actually moderate his/her own post, e.g. bringing the discussion to an end. Forums are only interested in as many clicks as possible, that is good for advertisers.

[lvr181]

SoiBiker, you are absolutely right! The problems is that in no forum the original poster can actually moderate his/her own post, e.g. bringing the discussion to an end. Forums are only interested in as many clicks as possible, that is good for advertisers.

And if readers cannot handle that, then don't come to the forum/s

[SheungWan]

Most people can do everything they want to do in a web browser.

I expect most Apple users believe this to be true.

I started using Windows before it required a hard disk, you arrogant pup.

Just a young kid on the block then? I did my dissertation using punched cards.

I seriously doubt half the software I use for work on my laptop workstation some of which only sell on a windows platform and share data with others in my workplace, have any need for a web browser of Apple o/s.

We used to cut up discarded punch cards for rolling 'er..... 'things'.

The last Apple I used was the Apple IIe. However much we blew smoke into the disc drive, the thing just kept on working.......far out!

[rijb]

Don't bogie that joint, my friend.

[sabaijai]

While this discussion is entertaining and will never get a definitive answer, I'd throw this onto the OP table:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9343-laptop/dncwt5101s

Another slim option and will probably be able to give you any desired keyboard...

The similar spec Macbook Air is 15K Baht cheaper than the Dell XPS 13 in TH. I know which one I'd buy

http://www.dell-thailand.com/laptop/xps/default.aspx

http://store.apple.com/th-en/buy-mac/macbook-air

Not so similar. 11 inch vs 13 inch display is a major difference.

[bubba]

And the top-spec Macbook Air 13" is still cheaper than the 13" Dell XPS.

[Ks45672]

When changing from Windows to Mac can be a headache as you have to change your way of thinking. Apple-logic is very strange logic something like 'why make it simple if we can make it unnecessarily complicated'.

My experience is the polar opposite, Mac's are far more user friendly. Only need to look at the application install process - 'drag an application to your Applications folder' - done.

Easier than a double click lol?

I think I can manage the complicated process of a double click.... Not like I spend all the time I on my computer installing applications anyway...

Also macs are significantly more expensive for less powerful hardware so I won't be switching anytime soon

[rwdrwdrwd]

Unless things have changed drastically, there's usually quite a bit more to it than that. 'select what to install', 'select where to install', 'this requires xyz,and you have abc'.

Uninstall process generally far worse, slowly drive your machine into the ground with registry changes that aren't cleaned up. As opposed to 'drag the application into trash and then empty the trash'

Edited February 24, 2016 by rwdrwdrwd

[SoiBiker]

As opposed to 'drag the application into trash and then empty the trash'

And leave behind a whole bunch of preference files, application support files, and other bits and pieces.

Neither Windows or OSX handles uninstalling software very well, to be honest. Linux distros with package managers are much better at this.

[richard_smith237]

I wonder who actually uses both systems enough to have a truly open minded, un-bias opinion of which is best.

I've been using Mac's for personal use for the past 10 years - I never looked back.

At work I alway use a PC for the simple reason that the software I have to use is not available for a Mac.

At work I face numerous 'crashes' and 'hangups' on the PC.... but thats probably because I'm 'thrashing' the system.

My Mac at home receives much kinder treatment, I doesn't have to work very hard.

So, in truth comparison is often difficult as PC's are often running software Mac's don't - That said, I wish Mac's did run the software I need at work.

With regards to the actual switching from PC to MAC - its very easy. My Dad did it without any hassle (and he always forgets how to add an attachment to an e-mail - I had to send him a list of bullet points, by post because he couldn't set up the computer !!!! )... He finds life with the Mac much much much easier... I get far fewer 'they've gone and messed this up' phone calls !!!

In short - If you are not into getting into the nuts and bolts of your operating system and want a simple trouble free operating system Mac offers a system which is easy to navigate provided you are happy to remain within its 'well manicured walled garden'...

Edited February 24, 2016 by richard_smith237

[bubba]

I am just curious, Richard. What software must you use that is only available on Windows?

[MartinBKK]

I have a MBP 15 inch top model and while it is a great machine i probably won't buy another in the near future anyway. The issue is a lot of software just doesn't run on MAC and most people use windows. I find myself working in Windows 90% of the time so unless you have very basic needs like email, surfing the web etc i wouldn't recommend MAC after my own experience. However, i am not a Windows fanboy or an Apple fanboy. I just buy what suits my needs and budget.

[rwdrwdrwd]

I'm a software engineer and use a Mac, as does pretty much everyone I've worked with for the last 10 years or so (though Linux is probably second in line) - it's not accurate to say Mac is only suitable if you have basic needs.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-most-professional-programmers-prefer-Macs

Edited February 25, 2016 by rwdrwdrwd

[bubba]

I have a MBP 15 inch top model and while it is a great machine i probably won't buy another in the near future anyway. The issue is a lot of software just doesn't run on MAC and most people use windows. I find myself working in Windows 90% of the time so unless you have very basic needs like email, surfing the web etc i wouldn't recommend MAC after my own experience. However, i am not a Windows fanboy or an Apple fanboy. I just buy what suits my needs and budget.

Well, I am curious again. What software requirements do you have that are not possible using OSX such that you must work in Windows 90% of the time? Apart from some very vertical applications or kiddie games, my experience has been that there are parallels for both operating systems.

I might suggest that if you are only able to use your MBP for web browsing and email, you may not have a full understanding of OSX capabilities.