Scam on Kao Sahn Road

[somchaismith]

Late at night on Friday, in the middle of KSR, while waiting with a few friends for kebabs that we’d ordered, I had an effeminate local man grab and procede to wrap his arms around me, while he got all touchy-feely. When I quickly objected to his advances, he and his blonde-haired Caucasian male partner tried to say that the local guy knew me as we had previously engaged in a one-night stand (hahaha, wasn't true), so, they were now going to beat me up for this open public rejection.

I was lucky as my group of friends and I were able to persuade these pair of bandits to flee. Beware of this scam. It was obviously an attempted pickpocketing turned into a violent attempted robbery.

Edited April 5, 2015 by somchaismith

[dragonfly94]

Thailand- it begins with the people

[somchaismith]

Thailand- it begins with the people

Yes, I hope a passerby managed to record the incident on their mobile!

Edited April 5, 2015 by somchaismith

[JOC]

I would be more worried about your wife's reaction!!

[somchaismith]

I would be more worried about your wife's reaction!!

Exactly, things could have turned extra nasty, that's also one of the reasons why I'm posting this Thailand anecdote.

Edited April 5, 2015 by somchaismith

[gerry123]

then you fell into or out of bed ??

[MrWorldwide]

I wouldnt have let it get to the 'wrap his arms around me' stage but I assume this all happened very quickly. I rarely advocate violence but these two deserve what's coming to them and hopefully it will result in a permanent limp and facial disfigurement. Something that frightens small children and gives tourists plenty of warning.

[Aussieroaming]

So what was the farang role...sounds like good gay bad gay tactics

[CharlieH]

MOVED to the Pub

[somchaismith]

then you fell into or out of bed ??

If you or anyone else can ID these characters, please let me know by PM.

[MuayThai 4U]

My thanks to the OP for posting the warning.

The last thing any of us wants is any trouble with local people. I am therefore very tolerant and let most things go (e.g. aggressive/idiotic driving)....but I won't tolerate anybody trying to grab hold of me. Had somebody try it once and had to robustly repel them.

[Stan42]

I was hit over the head from behind by a tuk-tuk driver in KS who wanted 300thb from me instead of the negotiated 100thb. He literally knocked me to the ground. I kicked him in his gut and he ran away like a baby. Was about 2-3 years ago.

[MrWorldwide]

I personally think KSR is worse than Walking St - neither is a shining beacon for tourism in Thailand but I'm not aware of any scam here in Bizarro Disneyland where a Farang is an active participant : that's a new low for mine and I think its safe to assume that meth is involved. A modern day Bonnie and Chlamydia couple. this one.

[arthurwait]

I wouldnt have let it get to the 'wrap his arms around me' stage but I assume this all happened very quickly. I rarely advocate violence but these two deserve what's coming to them and hopefully it will result in a permanent limp and facial disfigurement. Something that frightens small children and gives tourists plenty of warning.

That's probably their next part of the scam, money for not going to the police, hospital bills etc.

[somchaismith]

I wouldnt have let it get to the 'wrap his arms around me' stage but I assume this all happened very quickly. I rarely advocate violence but these two deserve what's coming to them and hopefully it will result in a permanent limp and facial disfigurement. Something that frightens small children and gives tourists plenty of warning.

That's probably their next part of the scam, money for not going to the police, hospital bills etc.

I was standing back while my Thai friends were at the kebab stand, so perhaps that had bearing on why I was chosen to be their next victim.

[bapoboy]

tourist areas sucks ... just scam scam scam!!!

[DLock]

You need to have your radar on at all times here, especially in places like KSR.

I doubt they would have tried it on me, but I would never have let them get close enough to try.

[somchaismith]

You need to have your radar on at all times here, especially in places like KSR.

I doubt they would have tried it on me, but I would never have let them get close enough to try.

There was nothing I could have done to stop that from occurring.The perp came out of nowhere.

[NoshowJones]

I was hit over the head from behind by a tuk-tuk driver in KS who wanted 300thb from me instead of the negotiated 100thb. He literally knocked me to the ground. I kicked him in his gut and he ran away like a baby. Was about 2-3 years ago.

He must have been by himself.

[Suradit69]

Thailand- it begins with the people

his blonde-haired Caucasian male partner

Yes, you have to be especially cautious with the blonde Caucasian Thais.

[Enoon]

It wasn't a scam, just as so many incidents that appear on TV labelled scams are not scams.

It was possibly attempted pickpocketing, but it certainly appears to have become attempted assault. Your description doesn't really indicate that it was straightforward extortion as you do not say that you were threatened with violence unless you paid money.

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling "penal pump" , and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection.

A scam is:

A confidence trick (synonyms include confidence scheme, scam and stratagem) is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence, used in the classical sense of trust. Confidence tricks exploit characteristics of the human psyche such as dishonesty, honesty, vanity, compassion,

credulity, irresponsibility, naïveté and greed.

The tuk-tuk drivers offer of a "holiday special" temple tour costing only 20baht (during which, at one of the temples, you will be approached by a friendly "fellow visitor" who will tell you about his success re-selling diamonds he has bought) and including a visit to a "government" diamond merchant is a scam.

Edited April 6, 2015 by Enoon

[somchaismith]

It wasn't a scam, just as so many incidents that appear on TV labelled scams are not scams.

It was possibly attempted pickpocketing, but it certainly appears to have become attempted assault. Your description doesn't really indicate that it was straightforward extortion as you do not say that you were threatened with violence unless you paid money.

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling "penal pump" , and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection.

A scam is:

A confidence trick (synonyms include confidence scheme, scam and stratagem) is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence, used in the classical sense of trust. Confidence tricks exploit characteristics of the human psyche such as dishonesty, honesty, vanity, compassion,

credulity, irresponsibility, naïveté and greed.

The tuk-tuk drivers offer of a "holiday special" temple tour costing only 20baht (during which, at one of the temples, you will be approached by a friendly "fellow visitor" who will tell you about his success re-selling diamonds he has bought) and including a visit to a "government" diamond merchant is a scam.

That's right, a local person comes up to you acting friendly, gives you a hug and has a chat. After the person has left you realize that you're short a wallet, mobile and so forth.

That's gaining a person's confidence and then shagging them!

[DanceAllNight]

KSR has a lot of scams... and those damn fortune tellers piss me off...

oh... you lucky man, very lucky.....

[somchaismith]

oh... you lucky man, very lucky.....

I'm considering carrying a stun gun-fighting fire with fire. However, I'm worried that it may not be practical.

[game4shame]

KSR is a shithole. Stinks of piss/shit/vomit, middle of nowhere, tourist trap, full of backpacker cocks getting ripped off by tuk tuk drivers and fortune tellers.......dreadlock-growing, fire juggling, tye-dye wearing, naive, cheapskate backpacking f**kwits. What a shithole.

Edited April 13, 2015 by game4shame

[somchaismith]

KSR is a shithole. Stinks of piss/shit/vomit, middle of nowhere, tourist trap, full of backpacker cocks getting ripped off by tuk tuk drivers and fortune tellers.......dreadlock-growing, fire juggling, tye-dye wearing, naive, cheapskate backpacking f**kwits. What a shithole.

It has its positives. I quite like some of the local talent. Also, a wide range of cheap and abundant food. All in all, plenty of fun times to be had there.

[Squeegee]

"Also, a wide range of cheap and abundant food."

Yes that's right: pad thai, pad thai and pad thai. Best selection ever.

KSR is indeed a craphole. The only thing it has going for it is very cheap beer and that's not worth being there for.

[Squeegee]

Double post thanks to the forum deciding I am limited to posting a new post after at least a four second wait or some other bizarre internet/forum fantasy that never actually happened.

Edited April 13, 2015 by Squeegee

[DanceAllNight]

Why go to KSR when there are planty of Go Go bars on Suhkumvit.

[DanceAllNight]

like a previous poster said, KSR is just a bunch of backpacker C**ts