Obama defends Iran deal as 'once-in-a-lifetime' opportunity

[Publicus]

You can't make this stuff up. An Iranian source claims they will start using their new fastest centrifuges the day the final deal is signed. What could possibly go wrong? Cue rapid centrifugal spinning from our resident left wing loons.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-news-report-tehran-will-start-using-fastest-centrifuges-on-day-deal-takes-effect/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes you can.

The fringe right are more creative than the Marx brothers ever were while being twice as slap-happy. For people who only marginally accept science, for instance, they sure cite it a lot concerning Iran. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/horse_feathers/

Iran has accepted that the remaining centrifuges are to be arranged according to the design of US Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz, a nuclear scientist from MIT, who joined the negotiations this year. DoE makes the nuclear weapons of the United States in a complex of facilities and systems then turns them over to DoD.

Dr. Moniz's design for placing and operating the centrifuges makes enriching uranium difficult in the extreme, laborious, time consuming, even more complex and complicated than it already is, not to mention extremely expensive.

Dr. Moniz's design addresses specifically and exactly the newest technologies Iran has in processing nuclear energy and in the making of fuel.

Edited April 9, 2015 by Publicus

[up-country_sinclair]

192 out of 193 UN member states endorse the framework.

And now the director of the CIA has weighed in:

CIA director attacks critics of Iran deal as 'wholly disingenuous'

CIA Director John Brennan reportedly says the preliminary framework around the nuclear deal with Iran does what had once seemed impossible, calling some critics of the agreement “wholly disingenuous” and expressing surprise at the Iranians’ concessions.

“I must tell you the individuals who say this deal provides a pathway for Iran to a bomb are being wholly disingenuous, in my view, if they know the facts, understand what’s required for a program,” Brennan told an audience at Harvard University’s Institute of Politics on Tuesday night in his first comments since the outline was announced last week in Lausanne, Switzerland, according to Agence France-Presse.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/cia-director-attacks-critics-iran-deal-116756.html#ixzz3WoUeudch

"Wholly disingenuous." Yes, that is an entirely accurate description of these traitorous Israel Firsters who are putting Israel and its self-serving interests before the US.

Bravo, Director Brennan.

Edited April 9, 2015 by up-country_sinclair

[up-country_sinclair]

A lot of severely uneducated fools out there that just nod in agreement when they have zero ideas what they are actually agreeing to.

Yeah, like the Director of the CIA.

I'm sure ThaiVisa's Israel Firsters have a much better understanding of the framework.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed. The topic is about the Iran nuclear deal.

[F430murci]

A lot of severely uneducated fools out there that just nod in agreement when they have zero ideas what they are actually agreeing to.

Yeah, like the Director of the CIA.

I'm sure ThaiVisa's Israel Firsters have a much better understanding of the framework.

Lol, CIA directors will agree with their man who put them in their positions . . . Kind of Tenent backed Bush's decision to invade Iraq based on the irrefutable evidence of WMD present in Iraq in 2002.

Nevertheless, my post was more in response to a statement about Obama care, but you deleted what I responded to to take my statement somewhat out of context.

The Iran deal is simply another short sighted deal by Obama that can be classified as gift that will keep on giving for a long time. Scary that Obama and his supporters cannot apparently see beyond their noses to assess long term consequences of their actions.

[Credo]

So out of curiosity, why hasn't someone taken out that nuclear facility? I don't see anybody actively standing in the way.

[Steely Dan]

The deal may not even be signed according to Khamenei, unless for one thing all sanctions are removed at once, which is completely at odds with the phased implementation Kerry mentioned. No prizes for guessing who will blink first.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32231750

Incidentally Henry Kissinger stated words to the effect the U.S negotiators have been played like a fiddle by Iran.

[up-country_sinclair]

The deal may not even be signed according to Khamenei

Keep your fingers crossed, and maybe Israel will get that war it wants the US to fight and finance.

Incidentally Henry Kissinger stated words to the effect the U.S negotiators have been played like a fiddle by Iran.

Incidentally, Henry Kissinger never saw a war he didn't like.

[arjunadawn]

CIA director attacks critics of Iran deal as 'wholly disingenuous'

“I must tell you the individuals who say this deal provides a pathway for Iran to a bomb are being wholly disingenuous, in my view, if they know the facts, understand what’s required for a program,” Brennan told an audience at Harvard University’s Institute of Politics on Tuesday night in his first comments since the outline was announced last week in Lausanne, Switzerland, according to Agence France-Presse.

When something this stupid is said publicly the speaker should recuse himself from further commentary. For people to be "disingenuous" there needs to be a supposition that they have a complete grasp of the facts, but play coyly as if they do not. Brennan notes such people are "disingenuous" and immediately cancels this pejorative out by saying "if they knew the facts..." Moreover, central to the issue is that no one does know "the facts" as the administration is not releasing details. If one cannot communicate effectively in their native tongue how can it be presumed they have done so with Farsi speaking peoples, or even remotely represented the best interests of their country?

This is just more obfuscation; not even particularly intelligent.

Edited April 9, 2015 by arjunadawn

[Chicog]

He should have said "if they know the facts they are being a--holes, but they don't, so they're still being a--holes".

[chuckd]

192 out of 193 UN member states endorse the framework.

And now the director of the CIA has weighed in:

CIA director attacks critics of Iran deal as 'wholly disingenuous'

CIA Director John Brennan reportedly says the preliminary framework around the nuclear deal with Iran does what had once seemed impossible, calling some critics of the agreement “wholly disingenuous” and expressing surprise at the Iranians’ concessions.

“I must tell you the individuals who say this deal provides a pathway for Iran to a bomb are being wholly disingenuous, in my view, if they know the facts, understand what’s required for a program,” Brennan told an audience at Harvard University’s Institute of Politics on Tuesday night in his first comments since the outline was announced last week in Lausanne, Switzerland, according to Agence France-Presse.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/cia-director-attacks-critics-iran-deal-116756.html#ixzz3WoUeudch

"Wholly disingenuous." Yes, that is an entirely accurate description of these traitorous Israel Firsters who are putting Israel and its self-serving interests before the US.

Bravo, Director Brennan.

My guess is the missing member state is probably...Iran.

Not necessarily on the framework agreement, which really is merely an agreement to continue talking, but the finished product.

It is quite a distance away...unless those stout negotiators from the P5+1 go ahead and give the store away.

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Iran's Khamenei says no guarantee of final nuclear deal

AFP By Cyril Julien

2 hours ago

Tehran (AFP) - Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Thursday that last week's hard-won framework accord with world powers on Tehran's nuclear programme was no guarantee of a final deal and that much work remained.

And President Hassan Rouhani added that Iran would not sign any final agreement unless "all economic sanctions are totally lifted on the same day."

"What has been done so far does not guarantee an agreement, nor its contents, nor even that the negotiations will continue to the end," Khamenei, who has the final word on all matters of state, said on his website.

Article here: http://news.yahoo.com/irans-khamenei-says-no-guarantee-nuclear-deal-114149111.html;_ylt=AwrC2Q6hpyZV_HsA3AfQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBya2tiZ2YyBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

[chuckd]

You can't make this stuff up. An Iranian source claims they will start using their new fastest centrifuges the day the final deal is signed. What could possibly go wrong? Cue rapid centrifugal spinning from our resident left wing loons.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-news-report-tehran-will-start-using-fastest-centrifuges-on-day-deal-takes-effect/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes you can.

The fringe right are more creative than the Marx brothers ever were while being twice as slap-happy. For people who only marginally accept science, for instance, they sure cite it a lot concerning Iran. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/horse_feathers/

Iran has accepted that the remaining centrifuges are to be arranged according to the design of US Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz, a nuclear scientist from MIT, who joined the negotiations this year. DoE makes the nuclear weapons of the United States in a complex of facilities and systems then turns them over to DoD.

Dr. Moniz's design for placing and operating the centrifuges makes enriching uranium difficult in the extreme, laborious, time consuming, even more complex and complicated than it already is, not to mention extremely expensive.

Dr. Moniz's design addresses specifically and exactly the newest technologies Iran has in processing nuclear energy and in the making of fuel.

I have no idea where you are getting your insider facts, but they seem to be contradicted by Iran, one of the rather important participants in the continuing discussions.

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Iran: New Nuke Deal Is ‘Not Acceptable’

BY: Adam Kredo

April 9, 2015 5:00 am

Iran has described an agreement to curb its nuclear program as “not acceptable” days after the United States hailed the new framework deal.

Following the announcement of a framework accord that the United States described as a major step in rolling back Iran’s nuclear work, leaders in Tehran began to accuse the Obama administration of lying about the deal’s parameters.

The disagreement revolves around a White House fact sheet that outlined concessions Tehran agreed to after negotiations in Lausanne, Switzerland, last week.

On Wednesday, Iran rejected most of the concessions it reportedly agreed to undertake.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-new-nuke-deal-is-not-acceptable/

[hawker9000]

A lot of severely uneducated fools out there that just nod in agreement when they have zero ideas what they are actually agreeing to.

Yeah, like the Director of the CIA.

I'm sure ThaiVisa's Israel Firsters have a much better understanding of the framework.

Lol, CIA directors will agree with their man who put them in their positions . . . Kind of Tenent backed Bush's decision to invade Iraq based on the irrefutable evidence of WMD present in Iraq in 2002.

Nevertheless, my post was more in response to a statement about Obama care, but you deleted what I responded to to take my statement somewhat out of context.

The Iran deal is simply another short sighted deal by Obama that can be classified as gift that will keep on giving for a long time. Scary that Obama and his supporters cannot apparently see beyond their noses to assess long term consequences of their actions.

Scary, yes, but sooooo in character.

[Publicus]

You can't make this stuff up. An Iranian source claims they will start using their new fastest centrifuges the day the final deal is signed. What could possibly go wrong? Cue rapid centrifugal spinning from our resident left wing loons.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-news-report-tehran-will-start-using-fastest-centrifuges-on-day-deal-takes-effect/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes you can.

The fringe right are more creative than the Marx brothers ever were while being twice as slap-happy. For people who only marginally accept science, for instance, they sure cite it a lot concerning Iran. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/horse_feathers/

Iran has accepted that the remaining centrifuges are to be arranged according to the design of US Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz, a nuclear scientist from MIT, who joined the negotiations this year. DoE makes the nuclear weapons of the United States in a complex of facilities and systems then turns them over to DoD.

Dr. Moniz's design for placing and operating the centrifuges makes enriching uranium difficult in the extreme, laborious, time consuming, even more complex and complicated than it already is, not to mention extremely expensive.

Dr. Moniz's design addresses specifically and exactly the newest technologies Iran has in processing nuclear energy and in the making of fuel.

I have no idea where you are getting your insider facts, but they seem to be contradicted by Iran, one of the rather important participants in the continuing discussions.

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Iran: New Nuke Deal Is ‘Not Acceptable’

BY: Adam Kredo

April 9, 2015 5:00 am

Iran has described an agreement to curb its nuclear program as “not acceptable” days after the United States hailed the new framework deal.

Following the announcement of a framework accord that the United States described as a major step in rolling back Iran’s nuclear work, leaders in Tehran began to accuse the Obama administration of lying about the deal’s parameters.

The disagreement revolves around a White House fact sheet that outlined concessions Tehran agreed to after negotiations in Lausanne, Switzerland, last week.

On Wednesday, Iran rejected most of the concessions it reportedly agreed to undertake.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-new-nuke-deal-is-not-acceptable/

Look forward to further reports of the high gales from Tehran and the ayatollah negotiation wind gusts during the current season of record high temperature talks, sweltering positioning and posturing, as the far right prays for a wind shear.

Wind shears are rare and reasonably managable anyway, as are the ayatollah's rhetorical twisters.

The farther right this goes the louder the wind howls from out there.

[hawker9000]

...as opposed to sustained high-altitude hot air currents from the left...

[jerojero]

At least Obama is trying diplomatic means. George W. would have started WWWIII by now!

[Ulysses G.]

Getting rid of the Iranian nukes is what matters and Obama is doing the opposite. He is making them inevitable.

[up-country_sinclair]

Under the agreement announced on Thursday, enrichment will continue with 5,000 centrifuges for a decade, and all restraints on it will end in 15 years. If he was going to capitulate anyway, why waste all this time?

As much as you want to avoid them, here are the facts:

Enrichment

• Iran has agreed to reduce by approximately two-thirds its installed centrifuges. Iran will go from having about 19,000 installed today to 6,104 installed under the deal, with only 5,060 of these enriching uranium for 10 years. All 6,104 centrifuges will be IR-1s, Iran’s first-generation centrifuge.

• Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium over 3.67 percent for at least 15 years.

• Iran has agreed to reduce its current stockpile of about 10,000 kg of low-enriched uranium (LEU) to 300 kg of 3.67 percent LEU for 15 years.

• All excess centrifuges and enrichment infrastructure will be placed in IAEA monitored storage and will be used only as replacements for operating centrifuges and equipment.

• Iran has agreed to not build any new facilities for the purpose of enriching uranium for 15 years.

• Iran’s breakout timeline – the time that it would take for Iran to acquire enough fissile material for one weapon – is currently assessed to be 2 to 3 months. That timeline will be extended to at least one year, for a duration of at least ten years, under this framework.

Iran will convert its facility at Fordow so that it is no longer used to enrich uranium

• Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility for at least 15 years.

• Iran has agreed to convert its Fordow facility so that it is used for peaceful purposes only – into a nuclear, physics, technology, research center.

• Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow for 15 years.

• Iran will not have any fissile material at Fordow for 15 years.

• Almost two-thirds of Fordow’s centrifuges and infrastructure will be removed. The remaining centrifuges will not enrich uranium. All centrifuges and related infrastructure will be placed under IAEA monitoring.

Iran will convert its facility at Fordow so that it is no longer used to enrich uranium

• Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility for at least 15 years.

• Iran has agreed to convert its Fordow facility so that it is used for peaceful purposes only – into a nuclear, physics, technology, research center.

• Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow for 15 years.

• Iran will not have any fissile material at Fordow for 15 years.

• Almost two-thirds of Fordow’s centrifuges and infrastructure will be removed. The remaining centrifuges will not enrich uranium. All centrifuges and related infrastructure will be placed under IAEA monitoring.

Iran will only enrich uranium at the Natanz facility, with only 5,060 IR-1 first-generation centrifuges for ten years.

• Iran has agreed to only enrich uranium using its first generation (IR-1 models) centrifuges at Natanz for ten years, removing its more advanced centrifuges.

• Iran will remove the 1,000 IR-2M centrifuges currently installed at Natanz and place them in IAEA monitored storage for ten years.

• Iran will not use its IR-2, IR-4, IR-5, IR-6, or IR-8 models to produce enriched uranium for at least ten years. Iran will engage in limited research and development with its advanced centrifuges, according to a schedule and parameters which have been agreed to by the P5+1.

• For ten years, enrichment and enrichment research and development will be limited to ensure a breakout timeline of at least 1 year. Beyond 10 years, Iran will abide by its enrichment and enrichment R&D plan submitted to the IAEA, and pursuant to the JCPOA, under the Additional Protocol resulting in certain limitations on enrichment capacity.

Inspections and Transparency

• The IAEA will have regular access to all of Iran’s nuclear facilities, including to Iran’s enrichment facility at Natanz and its former enrichment facility at Fordow, and including the use of the most up-to-date, modern monitoring technologies.

• Inspectors will have access to the supply chain that supports Iran’s nuclear program. The new transparency and inspections mechanisms will closely monitor materials and/or components to prevent diversion to a secret program.

• Inspectors will have access to uranium mines and continuous surveillance at uranium mills, where Iran produces yellowcake, for 25 years.

• Inspectors will have continuous surveillance of Iran’s centrifuge rotors and bellows production and storage facilities for 20 years. Iran’s centrifuge manufacturing base will be frozen and under continuous surveillance.

• All centrifuges and enrichment infrastructure removed from Fordow and Natanz will be placed under continuous monitoring by the IAEA.

• A dedicated procurement channel for Iran’s nuclear program will be established to monitor and approve, on a case by case basis, the supply, sale, or transfer to Iran of certain nuclear-related and dual use materials and technology – an additional transparency measure.

• Iran has agreed to implement the Additional Protocol of the IAEA, providing the IAEA much greater access and information regarding Iran’s nuclear program, including both declared and undeclared facilities.

• Iran will be required to grant access to the IAEA to investigate suspicious sites or allegations of a covert enrichment facility, conversion facility, centrifuge production facility, or yellowcake production facility anywhere in the country.

• Iran has agreed to implement Modified Code 3.1 requiring early notification of construction of new facilities.

• Iran will implement an agreed set of measures to address the IAEA’s concerns regarding the Possible Military Dimensions (PMD) of its program.

Reactors and Reprocessing

• Iran has agreed to redesign and rebuild a heavy water research reactor in Arak, based on a design that is agreed to by the P5+1, which will not produce weapons grade plutonium, and which will support peaceful nuclear research and radioisotope production.

• The original core of the reactor, which would have enabled the production of significant quantities of weapons-grade plutonium, will be destroyed or removed from the country.

• Iran will ship all of its spent fuel from the reactor out of the country for the reactor’s lifetime.

• Iran has committed indefinitely to not conduct reprocessing or reprocessing research and development on spent nuclear fuel.

• Iran will not accumulate heavy water in excess of the needs of the modified Arak reactor, and will sell any remaining heavy water on the international market for 15 years.

• Iran will not build any additional heavy water reactors for 15 years.

Sanctions

• Iran will receive sanctions relief, if it verifiably abides by its commitments.

• U.S. and E.U. nuclear-related sanctions will be suspended after the IAEA has verified that Iran has taken all of its key nuclear-related steps. If at any time Iran fails to fulfill its commitments, these sanctions will snap back into place.

• The architecture of U.S. nuclear-related sanctions on Iran will be retained for much of the duration of the deal and allow for snap-back of sanctions in the event of significant non-performance.

• All past UN Security Council resolutions on the Iran nuclear issue will be lifted simultaneous with the completion, by Iran, of nuclear-related actions addressing all key concerns (enrichment, Fordow, Arak, PMD, and transparency).

• However, core provisions in the UN Security Council resolutions – those that deal with transfers of sensitive technologies and activities – will be re-established by a new UN Security Council resolution that will endorse the JCPOA and urge its full implementation. It will also create the procurement channel mentioned above, which will serve as a key transparency measure. Important restrictions on conventional arms and ballistic missiles, as well as provisions that allow for related cargo inspections and asset freezes, will also be incorporated by this new resolution.

• A dispute resolution process will be specified, which enables any JCPOA participant, to seek to resolve disagreements about the performance of JCPOA commitments.

• If an issue of significant non-performance cannot be resolved through that process, then all previous UN sanctions could be re-imposed.

• U.S. sanctions on Iran for terrorism, human rights abuses, and ballistic missiles will remain in place under the deal.

Phasing

• For ten years, Iran will limit domestic enrichment capacity and research and development – ensuring a breakout timeline of at least one year. Beyond that, Iran will be bound by its longer-term enrichment and enrichment research and development plan it shared with the P5+1.

• For fifteen years, Iran will limit additional elements of its program. For instance, Iran will not build new enrichment facilities or heavy water reactors and will limit its stockpile of enriched uranium and accept enhanced transparency procedures.

• Important inspections and transparency measures will continue well beyond 15 years. Iran’s adherence to the Additional Protocol of the IAEA is permanent, including its significant access and transparency obligations. The robust inspections of Iran’s uranium supply chain will last for 25 years.

• Even after the period of the most stringent limitations on Iran’s nuclear program, Iran will remain a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), which prohibits Iran’s development or acquisition of nuclear weapons and requires IAEA safeguards on its nuclear program.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/04/240170.htm

This is a very, very good deal for the P5+1. Only Israel Firsters are opposed to it because they're seemingly hell bent on having the US fight and finance a war that only Israel wants.

[Michael8511]

All of you that are in favor for a new war in the area will get your wishes granted when the republicans win the next election. They can't wait to drop the bomb with support of Israel a country where the U.S have sponsored with millions of dollars even supporting Israelis government backed healthcare when millions of Americans are without healthcare in the U.S. There is time for Israel to start supporting them selfs without us grants. And I wonder how many of the European countries are likely to support the Iran war. They are all supporting a diplomatic solution and we can only hope for the best.

[Ulysses G.]

Only Israel Firsters are opposed to it because they're seemingly hell bent on having the US fight and finance a war that only Israel wants.

Enough with the foolish rhetoric. Israel is not the only country that has to worry about a nuclear armed Iran - far from it. Iran also has a program that is developing ICBMs that will reach anywhere in the world.

Here is one FACT that you left out: Obama has already admitted that Iran will eventually be able to acquire a weapon under his plan.

[Michael8511]

Time will tell. But U.S. Backing a Israeli war with Iran is something the rest of the world are against. Let's see first if the diplomatic agreement will go thru first and second if it will work. If it's not working the other options are on the table, and with all these idiots in the house and congress that's are so eager to please Israel and start war in the region that will not be backed up by Europeans a war may be possible. When it comes to all other monitory support to Israel I personally think it's time for US to start clean their own country of corruption and take care of the people before the minority groups are so large and angered that their influence will change the country.

[ScarpoFongness4U]

War with Iran is the finish line of the CIA inspired Arab spring.

The people here who post that the USA won't back Israel in the upcoming conflagration dont understand what is at work here

This is just one long desert storm, and the us marines and cia have a major score to settle with Iran not only the embassy bombing and marine barracks

The Iranians and their shiite militias killed more us soldiers with ieds than all of Saddam's soldiers so

The Obama attempt at negotiations were always going to fail because the ayatollah has more than once stated that without the nuclear bomb making he would not have taken the job.

Iranis also now capable of reaching the us shores with ship to surface missiles and the us is not going to allow them to deploy them against us interests

You all can mentally masturbate the Israel action and who will back them as it is all irrelevant.

The us already transfered the new larger bombs and the tech to have them double up for maximum penetrating effect

Iran is the target and always was the target and Obama tried to save them,

But they failed to grab the olive branch and the us Pentagon wants this fight.

Try to remember, the same people that established Israel also established the us federal reserve and the bank for international settlements.

The USA and Israel are one and the same

Just ask the ayatollahs

Flame on posters flame on.

But you know I am right

Let's see if Iran has the balls to fire on Egypt again who just chased them off the Aden coast and is beefing up its naval presence as the iranians send attack craft to engage them.

If they back away from Egypt, and Saudi Arabia air assault, they are finished on the world stage

[up-country_sinclair]

Enough with the foolish rhetoric. Israel is not the only country that has to worry about a nuclear armed Iran - far from it. Iran also has a program that is developing ICBMs that will reach anywhere in the world.

Then it should be easy for your to list the countries that are publicly opposed to the framework.

I'll start it for you:

1. Israel.

OK, your turn:

2.

3.

4.

5.

[Steely Dan]

Latest from Khamenei, there will be no intrusive inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities. Add this to the list of diametric opposites with respect to the statements made by the U.S and Iran. It would not be accurate to state the deal is unravelling, for that would presume some points of agreement were actually knitted together. The so called deal is as amorphous as knitted fog.

P.s Kerry also warns the U.S won't stand by if Iran interferes in Yemen. Another bluff the Iranians will call, following their interference in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Bahrain, to name but four.

[chuckd]

Under the agreement announced on Thursday, enrichment will continue with 5,000 centrifuges for a decade, and all restraints on it will end in 15 years. If he was going to capitulate anyway, why waste all this time?

As much as you want to avoid them, here are the facts:

<<snip>>

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/04/240170.htm

This is a very, very good deal for the P5+1. Only Israel Firsters are opposed to it because they're seemingly hell bent on having the US fight and finance a war that only Israel wants.

"As much as you want to avoid them, here are the facts:"

Those are not facts. They are the "wish list" from the propaganda arm of the Obama White House., John Kerry's State Department.

[up-country_sinclair]

You two keep your fingers crossed and the Israel Firsters just might get the war that Israel wants the US to fight and finance.

[Steely Dan]

You two keep your fingers crossed and the Israel Firsters just might get the war that Israel wants the US to fight and finance.

Admit it for once, the leftist Ideologues know full well the nature of the Iranian regime and hence the likelihood of military action. Indeed they can scarcely contain their glee at the prospect and the.opportunity to attack Israel as a result. They care as little for the rights of the oppressed Iranian people as they do Palestinians in Syria being slaughtered by ISIS.

[chuckd]

...and if you honestly believe Iran will sign all those agreements, I have a great deal on a bridge just for you and a select few others.

[up-country_sinclair]

You two should feel free to add to this list:

iit should be easy for you to list the countries that are publicly opposed to the framework.

I'll start it for you:

1. Israel.

OK, your turn:

2.

3.

4.

5.

192 out of 193 UN member states support the framework. The Director of the CIA has signed off. Scores of non-partisan nuclear physicists have said it's a much better deal than they would have ever expected. IMO it's only a matter of time before the Joint Chiefs of Staff make public statements supporting the framework.

Who is opposed?

Israel and the treasonous Israel Firsters operating within the US like a virus.

[chuckd]

You two should feel free to add to this list:

iit should be easy for you to list the countries that are publicly opposed to the framework.

I'll start it for you:

1. Israel.

OK, your turn:

2.

3.

4.

5.

192 out of 193 UN member states support the framework. The Director of the CIA has signed off. Scores of non-partisan nuclear physicists have said it's a much better deal than they would have ever expected. IMO it's only a matter of time before the Joint Chiefs of Staff make public statements supporting the framework.

Who is opposed?

Israel and the treasonous Israel Firsters operating within the US like a virus.

I have already answered this question once but I will do it again just for you.

"Who is opposed?"

The answer is...IRAN.