Popular Post than Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Not only, foreign media have the same evidence...... Quote from Human right watch world report 2012-2014 about Thailand : « At least 90 people died and more than 2,000 were injured during violent political confrontations from March to May 2010. The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces, attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders. » « The status of investigations into alleged crimes by UDD “Black Shirt” militants remained unclear, with the Yingluck government denying the group’s existence despite clear photographic and other evidence. A number of those accused of deadly attacks against soldiers, police officers, and anti-UDD groups were released on bail. The election of 12 senior UDD leaders as ruling Pheu Thai Party members of parliament raised serious concerns that they would be able to use their political influence and parliamentary immunity to evade accountability for their role in the 2010 violence. » Human Right Watch put on light Red shirt lying..... perhaps HRW are in hand of yellow shirt....... SORRY FOR YOU BUT THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's hope that The General agrees with your sources and allows the media to re-state this, which you included (unhighlighted) in your post: "The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces," There is a saying in the UK "it's six of one and half a dozen of the other". I think your tenth rate "Napoleon" may only believe in "six of one". House of Bonaparte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Avatar? you forget the rest of sentence : "....attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders." You can find this source easily on internet, Oh sorry I forget Lanna redshirt country internet not allow this type of search....... what does that means, if UDD did not attack and kill officials and civilians,whole tragedy would not have occurred. But UDD wanted to face army, now they will pay for consequence... UDD strategist just use some leftist guerrilla method : attacks and harass officials and waiting for violent reaction from them.... Edited April 10, 2015 by cdnvic Removed excessively large fonts 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Quite correct for Prayuit to yearn the truth to be exposed. thaksin with Major-General Khattiya Sawasdipol a few weeks before the red shirt terrist uprising. They shared "a moment" in Dubai. Then Major-General Khattiya Sawasdipol in Bangkok after admitting to a force of some 300 terrorists fighting under his command after he decared in one interview that he had 300 armed men trained for ''close encounters'' and armed with M79 grenade launchers. Of course like the segregation issue that the UDD were recorded on youtube trying to push they simply deny the evidence as "make believe" when they feared accountability. Even the UDD spokesman, Sean Boonpracong, told the media that elements of the army are with the UDD. They were apparently known as "watermelons" according to him.. green on the outside but red in the middle and they include the MIB who had military weapons that were seen at the April 10th crackdown. Of course when you can defend yingluck for the rice scheme when she forgot she was even the chairman of it some can easily defend the UDD terrorists here. The truth came out in the Human Rights Watch report (which surprise, surprise was denounced by the UDD) and it needs to come out again for the hard of hearing or the hard reading in this case or as I like to think of them as stubborn disbelievers of facts.. Unless Jatuporn gets his wish of ensuring that the investigation goes according to his plan. Edited April 10, 2015 by djjamie 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That is a really strange picture. It is very surreal. Looks like he has to pee or he's holding back a fart. One of the great pieces of dialogue in the Bucket List was to list 3 things you should do when old and one was " never trust a fart ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That is a really strange picture.He is a really strange guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Why should the media help a person who sensors their work, threatens them with incarceration, threatens to shut them down, threatens to punch them in the face and threatens to execute them. I ask again why should they help him. Because that's what they do. No offence but that's what some die for, to help describe for others to see and judge. Prayuth should take off the muzzles and let them do thier job. They can't describe for others to see and judge when they have been blindfolded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BSJ Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2015 I was living in Pattaya not Bangkok in 2010. I saw on the telly what was going on. Thugs holding a city to ransom. Destroying property and peoples lives. What do you Red lovers think was going to happen? The government of the day was NOT going to do anything about it! When you have a situation like that there is only one outcome to return law and order......and that is what happened. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drid Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The photo looks like he is Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise, from the tv show Star Trek. Only to those obviously unaware of Thailand and/or just want to feebly bash the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drid Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 He also looks like Dr Evil, from the movie Austin Powers the Spy who Shagged Me. There's help available. Seek it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Slow down a sec guys.......... This thread is not about the violent red thugs (there are 100's of threads about that already) This is about Mr P asking/begging/ordering the press to report his "truth". Normally countries where that happens are called (you know what I mean)................. He just ask media to report True. Media have pictures and videos of this night who clearly show that red shirt always denied : Violence come from red camps....... Since most of the media are on yellow hands, why haven't those alleged pictures and videos not been published in five years?? Not only, foreign media have the same evidence...... Quote from Human right watch world report 2012-2014 about Thailand : « At least 90 people died and more than 2,000 were injured during violent political confrontations from March to May 2010. The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces, attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders. » « The status of investigations into alleged crimes by UDD “Black Shirt” militants remained unclear, with the Yingluck government denying the group’s existence despite clear photographic and other evidence. A number of those accused of deadly attacks against soldiers, police officers, and anti-UDD groups were released on bail. The election of 12 senior UDD leaders as ruling Pheu Thai Party members of parliament raised serious concerns that they would be able to use their political influence and parliamentary immunity to evade accountability for their role in the 2010 violence. » Human Right Watch put on light Red shirt lying..... perhaps HRW are in hand of yellow shirt....... SORRY FOR YOU BUT THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You seem to have forgotten to bold a very important bit - let me help you: The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces, attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders. » 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onelasttime Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I can remember listening to a wounded western journalist giving his account at the FCCT. He had been shot in the leg by the army and, even as he was being taken out of danger and to hospital, he was still being targetted by them. I am also given to understand that there were photos taken by the ABC, with all the exif data of soldiers on the skytrain targetting civilians. I despair for this country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Doubtful anything impartial will produced in Thailand under the current circumstances, for which we can thank the good general. Any objective reporting would have to air on an international news service to have an effect. "Media, help me. Don't throw away the evidence. I saw you taking many photographs," He sounds like he has something to hide, as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 So many of you haven't got a clue what happened... It was ugly almost beyond belief. You just spew out that same old crap about democracy and a police state, with never a mention of morons threatening to explode a propane tanker truck in the squalor of Din Daeng Flats... It wasn't just a threat mate it was an attempt...... Which fortunately failed. It was clearly shown on tele, one of the so called 'peaceful protesters' setting a fire under the tanker while terrified elderly residents of the apartments looked on from their windows. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The photo looks like he is Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise, from the tv show Star Trek. "Captains log star date 2558, hostile anniversery meetings controlled, proof of violence needed, zulu warp speed ahead" Looks like a kid trying to hide the fact that he wet his pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Yes tell the truth. The death of those 90 unarmed, peace loving soldiers slaughtered as they played guitars and sang, 'Blowing in the Wind,' is a national tragedy. human Exactly and whilst they are at it let the media publish the pictures of 78 of those unfortunates showing gunshot wounds to their backs. Those poor brave Thai military men typify Thai incompetence, cruelty and basic inhumane actions ordered at the time. Now let's see who was one of those Generals at the time, authorizing such massacre and now in government thanks to gun law ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbarch Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 If the PM really wants the public to know the truth, then the answer is a fully independent enquiry. But to demonstrate its impartiality it needs to be conducted by an organization outside of Thailand, like the UN (They have conducted similar investigations the past). So what are the odds on this happening? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesjohnsonthird Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 He wants photographs? I have some shots of Army snipers up on the sky train tracks. Does he want those I wonder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 He means he wants the media to tell the "sanitized" version of events according to him. Never mind what the actual truth is. No he doesn't!! He wants them to reveal the truth - proves he knows what happened and is unafraid that the army will come out tainted as a result of this. I hope the press has the decency to show some nice pics of the red shirts indulging in violent actions and some revealing pics of Thaksin's 'black shirt' mercenaries shooting at soldiers (thus precipitating the deaths of so many from both sides plus journalists and innocent victims)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 A post in which another member's nic had been altered into an inflammatory context has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 Yes tell the truth. The death of those 90 unarmed, peace loving soldiers slaughtered as they played guitars and sang, 'Blowing in the Wind,' is a national tragedy. human Exactly and whilst they are at it let the media publish the pictures of 78 of those unfortunates showing gunshot wounds to their backs. Those poor brave Thai military men typify Thai incompetence, cruelty and basic inhumane actions ordered at the time. Now let's see who was one of those Generals at the time, authorizing such massacre and now in government thanks to gun law ? Perhaps you can find some yourself there are plenty out there of the peaceful protesters and their brave leaders, like this one for instance of one of them leading the singing with his guitar : Or this peaceful protester waving his peace flag and chanting peace songs : How many of the so called peaceful protesters that were shot were in fact armed and shooting at the army, does anyone really believe that weapons would have been left with the dead or injured to show the world they were armed at the time they were targeted ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) What about these fine gentlemen and red shirts crowd cheering and celebrating the vicious attack on a market in Trat leaving a couple of children dead. This was happening in Thailand when miss 'Proxy' Yingluck insisted to hold an election! Amazing that this scum has never been arrested. Edited April 11, 2015 by SoilSpoil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 How about this evidence about those peaceful red protesters for those who keep repeating the mantra about the evil military crackdown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Many photographs - as well as video footage - of Red Shirts and Black Shirts armed with guns were taken during the violence of April-May 2010.. A number of these are reproduced in an interesting article on the anniversary of the bloodbath which the PM and Thai Visa members may well have missed. http://altthainews.blogspot.com/2015/04/thailand-2010-bloodbath-anniversary.html#more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Yes tell the truth. The death of those 90 unarmed, peace loving soldiers slaughtered as they played guitars and sang, 'Blowing in the Wind,' is a national tragedy. human Exactly and whilst they are at it let the media publish the pictures of 78 of those unfortunates showing gunshot wounds to their backs. Those poor brave Thai military men typify Thai incompetence, cruelty and basic inhumane actions ordered at the time. Now let's see who was one of those Generals at the time, authorizing such massacre and now in government thanks to gun law ? Perhaps you can find some yourself there are plenty out there of the peaceful protesters and their brave leaders, like this one for instance of one of them leading the singing with his guitar : Red_Mob_Apr 2010.JPEG Or this peaceful protester waving his peace flag and chanting peace songs : no need to wear black.jpg How many of the so called peaceful protesters that were shot were in fact armed and shooting at the army, does anyone really believe that weapons would have been left with the dead or injured to show the world they were armed at the time they were targeted ? Well you need to get your eyes tested as that guitar isn't even on the guy behind, it's held by someone else in front of him!! That's an MP5SD 9mm and there's mo magazine on it. it's also not a standard weapon for any regular military unit, these are mostly utilised by Spec Ops people. ? The sidearm looks like a colt 45 but could be any double action pistol, if it's a 45 and people autopsies supported this you could maybe at a push link them, same with MP5SD that's 9mm so autopsy results again would reveal the calibres of the weapons used. By the way, both are shit for engaging anything further than 50Ms ? Edited April 11, 2015 by Fat Haggis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 Do I really need to go on? The faces of the guys shooting in this video have all been published and identified on internet. Arrests have never been made as far as I know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Many photographs - as well as video footage - of Red Shirts and Black Shirts armed with guns were taken during the violence of April-May 2010.. A number of these are reproduced in an interesting article on the anniversary of the bloodbath which the PM and Thai Visa members may well have missed. http://altthainews.blogspot.com/2015/04/thailand-2010-bloodbath-anniversary.html#more Tony Catalucci is about as biased as Michael Yon,when it comes to Thialand and openly supports Regimes such as the Syrian one. He's far from balanced and impartial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Do I really need to go on? The faces of the guys shooting in this video have all been published and identified on internet. Arrests have never been made as far as I know. That was from last year not 2010, it doesn't excuse their actions however. and how could the faces be posted, it's over 100 Ms away shot on a cellphone, the pixelation when zooming in would make it impossible to identify anyone in that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Yes tell the truth. The death of those 90 unarmed, peace loving soldiers slaughtered as they played guitars and sang, 'Blowing in the Wind,' is a national tragedy. human Exactly and whilst they are at it let the media publish the pictures of 78 of those unfortunates showing gunshot wounds to their backs. Those poor brave Thai military men typify Thai incompetence, cruelty and basic inhumane actions ordered at the time. Now let's see who was one of those Generals at the time, authorizing such massacre and now in government thanks to gun law ? Perhaps you can find some yourself there are plenty out there of the peaceful protesters and their brave leaders, like this one for instance of one of them leading the singing with his guitar : Red_Mob_Apr 2010.JPEG Or this peaceful protester waving his peace flag and chanting peace songs : no need to wear black.jpg How many of the so called peaceful protesters that were shot were in fact armed and shooting at the army, does anyone really believe that weapons would have been left with the dead or injured to show the world they were armed at the time they were targeted ? Well you need to get your eyes tested as that guitar isn't even on the guy behind, it's held by someone else in front of him!!That's an MP5SD 9mm and there's mo magazine on it. it's also not a standard weapon for any regular military unit, these are mostly utilised by Spec Ops people. ? The sidearm looks like a colt 45 but could be any double action pistol, if it's a 45 and people autopsies supported this you could maybe at a push link them, same with MP5SD that's 9mm so autopsy results again would reveal the calibres of the weapons used. By the way, both are shit for engaging anything further than 50Ms ? You think I cant see these things ? I know you have military experience but then consider that you are not the only one.. Did the fella with the side arm actually have to hit anyone to make him a target, he certainly has the potential to kill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Many photographs - as well as video footage - of Red Shirts and Black Shirts armed with guns were taken during the violence of April-May 2010.. A number of these are reproduced in an interesting article on the anniversary of the bloodbath which the PM and Thai Visa members may well have missed. http://altthainews.blogspot.com/2015/04/thailand-2010-bloodbath-anniversary.html#more Tony Catalucci is about as biased as Michael Yon,when it comes to Thialand and openly supports Regimes such as the Syrian one. He's far from balanced and impartial. If you say so. However it is backed up by others as well, for instance : http://www.th4u.com/reds_riots.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Short and selective memory from some posters here. Thugs are sadly on both sides: Source:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/world/asia/2-killed-including-officer-as-thai-police-move-in-on-protests.html This Sutheps peaceful whistle blowers attacking the police 2014 Edited April 11, 2015 by JOC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Userone Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 That is a very philosophical question, argued as far as anybody can remember, and all of these societies would value different rights. I would love to hear more viewpoints from these constitutional monarchy's citizens in regards to Thai politics. For another thread though. These types of threads always bring up too much democracy rhetoric. Western democracy is a republic founded to protect our individual rights to life, liberty, and happiness. Thailand is not a republic. If you all are going to banter about political philosophy, at least do it with some class. Ok if I understand your mind a western democratic country is a republic ? What about Spain, Great Britain, Belgium, Nederland, Denmark, Sweden and Luxembourg ? These counties are not a republic ! For you these countries are not democratics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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