Jacob Maslow Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 In late March, the Japan Civil Aviation Bureau (JCAB) told the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) that it would prohibit Thai carriers from increasing flights to Japan. The move came after a warning from the International Civil Aviation Organisation of Thai airlines having “significant safety concerns”. The ban was prevented after the two countries came to an agreement that Thailand would provide regular updates on the steps its taking to resolve these safety issues. Now, the JCAB is reminding Thailand that it needs to keep its promise of better coordination and improved communication. Thailand had pledged to provide updates on the progress of correcting airline inspection and certification issues. Prajin Jantong, the Transport Minister, stated that JCAB officials contacted the DCA’s director-general Somchai Phiphutthawat to voice concerns that they had not seen any coordination improvement, nor have they received any updates. Prajin believes the message is a warning, and a new committee will be set up that will allow Thai officials to work closely with JCAB officials. The Transport Ministry will hold a meeting on May 6 to review the corrective-action plan before it’s presented to PM Prayut Chan-o-cha. Once approved, the plan will be sent to the ICAO as well as the JCAB. -- 2015-05-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chang_paarp Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 You mean to say that an Asian country wants Thailand to actually do something they promised. They do not understand Thainess. 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 ' Way to go LoS. The ICAO have supposedly warned Thailand to be better prepared for the 2016 audit but this year's still in quite a mess. The ' alright on the night ' attitude backfires all too often but nobody learns it seems. Air safety is under serious scrutiny as is fishing and warnings issued but LoS rolls along as if no one would ever take action against them. Bans and loss of revenue is the only thing they will understand but it will still be everybody else's fault anyway. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Plutojames88 Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 Loss of face will be inflicted event after event on this rule - They trade on lies So the international community will bit by bit exposé each and every one of them. Thailand under this rule cannot perform its obligations 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hey, Thailand, guess what? You're not the Ace #1 World Leader in Everything the way you think, and now other countries are putting you front and center for you ignorance and arrogance. You know, your "Thainess". Other countries are getting tired of your crap, and your attitude, and now are throwing it back in your face. You need to wake up and realize that you are just one tiny country in a great big world, and that you're not as smart, or as slick, as you think you are. You can scramble to come up with excuses, and blame others all you want, but that only works in Thailand. Other countries aren't buying it any more. The feces is in the fan blades, and it's coming straight back at you. 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExPratt Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 I find in the part of the world if you ask someone to finish something by Friday , they won't do anything until Friday and then when the job is more complex that they thought the work and schedules get delayed. And its "Not their fault" they didn't know it was complicated. Had they just started when you told them to , there would have been no problem. Its the "Planning Gene" they haven't got one and have no idea of how to go about doing something on time , actually on time is not important to them as long as its done one day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExPratt Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) "Prajin believes the message is a warning" Obviously an amazingly perceptive man Edited April 30, 2015 by ExPratt 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 The headline is grossly misleading. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 The headline is grossly misleading. It was written, and translated to English, buy a Thai, so what do you expect? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lust Posted April 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 The headline is grossly misleading. It was written, and translated to English, buy a Thai, so what do you expect? What are you laughing about? How much do Thais cost? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tx22cb Posted May 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 It seems that these Thai quasi-governmental organizations have an ossified culture frozen in time from the 1970s, resistant to change, and staffed by bureaucrats who have jobs for life. They need an injection of proactive professionals who can keep up with the times, with independent directors who ask the right questions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fritzzz25 Posted May 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am sure the Thais have asked that the only communication with them be held over LINE messenger, as it seems that is all they do all day is keep their noses stuck in their smartphones sending stickers back and forth. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jacob Maslow Posted May 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 The headline is grossly misleading. It was written, and translated to English, buy a Thai, so what do you expect? Not sure I see the issue. What am I missing? How exactly is the headline misleading? Japan feels that Thailand isn't living up to its commitments. In particular, Thailand agreed to provide regular updates. The issue is that Thailand needs time to fully comply, however no one wants a disaster. Due to the safety issues involved, Japan insisted on receiving regular updates on progress being made. Japan is now alleging that Thailand is not living up to its commitment and has broken its commitment. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> It seems that these Thai quasi-governmental organizations have an ossified culture frozen in time from the 1970s, resistant to change, and staffed by bureaucrats who have jobs for life.They need an injection of proactive professionals who can keep up with the times, with independent directors who ask the right questions. " independent directors who ask the right questions." That would probably be on the list of sackable offences for most Government agencies in this part of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The headline is a little misleading. The Thai's will be reporting to Japan very soon. Their just waiting for the interpreter to translate the documents into Japanese just as soon as he graduates from language school! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Don't worry chaps it's only a warning! :-):-):-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm skeptical that plane is flown to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I'm skeptical that plane is flown to Japan. Yes it would take quite while to get there and probably have to stop to be re-fueled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm waiting for the "PM" to invoke 44 on this issue too ... then they can go back to Japan and say the problem's solved, same as with the fishery industry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolsti Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I'm skeptical that plane is flown to Japan. That plane doesn't even fly any more. It is recorded as Stored. It hasn't borne Thai livery for a while either as it was transferred to Nok air in 2010. Sheer lazy journalism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 At its foundation this is a country filled with good hearted people but managed by corrupt bureaucrats who bought their positions. I used to be a bureaucrat in the USA and its stunning how inefficient they were. Meetings about nothing substantive. But at least there was an objective exam of each candidate. Its incomprehensible how much inertia must exist here by comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMfoodie Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Headline suggestion: Japan Aviation: Thailand not complying with agreements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm waiting for the "PM" to invoke 44 on this issue too ... then they can go back to Japan and say the problem's solved, same as with the fishery industry. The PM was quoted as saying he would use art 44 to solve this, hasn't been solved yet. So art 44 is ineffective or is it only to help put political enemies in the dungeon hanging by their thumbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisY1 Posted May 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm waiting for the "PM" to invoke 44 on this issue too ... then they can go back to Japan and say the problem's solved, same as with the fishery industry. The PM was quoted as saying he would use art 44 to solve this, hasn't been solved yet. So art 44 is ineffective or is it only to help put political enemies in the dungeon hanging by their thumbs. Article 44 is probably very effective used in the right manner.....unfortunately, it's the people who have to use it that have no idea..........! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sounds like someone need to be taken out to the shed again for a second wave of the Section 44 wand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted May 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 The General should ignore all these warnings and just simply cease all passenger airline service with Asian countries. Thai tourism would improve with a captive population with nowhere to fly. The airport expansion at Suvarnabhumi can be cancelled with a great cost savings. There are plenty of Chinese to take the place of Japanese, etc. tourists and they can use the new dual rail system next year. Cambodians, Mayanmars, and Malaysians also do not need air service to visit Thailand as they can travel overland. The Junta doesn't need to keep foreign agreements. Only needs to stay in domestic power. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastguy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 It seems that these Thai quasi-governmental organizations have an ossified culture frozen in time from the 1970s, resistant to change, and staffed by bureaucrats who have jobs for life. They need an injection of proactive professionals who can keep up with the times, with independent directors who ask the right questions. I spotted your "typo" it should have read 1870's !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am surprised that Japan for whatever reason hasn't stopped them flying into japan being the astute businessmen they are and air safety is a major concern, one wonders why other countries are not taking up the subject, haven't heard from the UN restricted list nor from the EU, the word from OZ is Thai International has a Audit once a year , has a modern fleet therefore is okay, mind that might change if AirAsiaX cheap budget tries for airspace and slot time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Time to get ones finger out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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