rockyysdt Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I thought a reasonable quality 32 inch LED LCD would fit the bill. What brand/model should I go for? I'm looking for best bang for my Baht with reasonable quality in mind. I look forward to reading your experiences/recommendations. Also, does a reasonable standard wall bracket to suit sell for the world? I can get one for 550 Baht but don't want to carry it on the plane. Almost forgot. How much do HDMI cables go for? Edited May 25, 2015 by rockyysdt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Look in Tesco Lotus, plenty of choice, reasonable prices. I'd go for Samsung or LG, can't really go wrong with those, will be <10K anyway Wall brackets around 500B and these TVs don't weigh much so nothing fancy needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 This should provide current price for everything. http://www.lazada.co.th/ HDMI cables are normally provided if you buy HD box for viewing TV by cable or satellite. Stepson bought Samsung 40" HD LED set last week and appears a lot larger than 32" when viewing - cost was about 12,500 baht. As said new models weight almost nothing so wall mounting is very easy and does not require expensive units. But do check mounting size and bolt size as this has changed for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyysdt Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 This should provide current price for everything. http://www.lazada.co.th/ HDMI cables are normally provided if you buy HD box for viewing TV by cable or satellite. Stepson bought Samsung 40" HD LED set last week and appears a lot larger than 32" when viewing - cost was about 12,500 baht. As said new models weight almost nothing so wall mounting is very easy and does not require expensive units. But do check mounting size and bolt size as this has changed for some. Is HD only (not Full HD) the go in Thailand? Where I reside 1366 x 768 is a rarity these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 When I say HD it is 1080 but there are still many lower systems being sold. So always look for the full HD or the 1080 resolution being marked before buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyysdt Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 When I say HD it is 1080 but there are still many lower systems being sold. So always look for the full HD or the 1080 resolution being marked before buying. If DVD, free to air, and basic cable are the only sources (rarely Blu Ray) which will be used, then is there any other appreciable difference/benefit to justify 1080p over 720p (Full HD over HD)? PS: Looking at the Lazada websites reveals a very complicated market. There are no less than 13 different LED LCD 32 inch Samsung sets. One would have to carefully do their homework to work through such an array. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 HD is 1080 in this part of the world - and even the USA is moving in that direction - so if you have local HD content, as we now have in Thailand, it should be 1080. So yes I would buy full HD receiver these days. Even the UHD is starting to be priced reasonably but really no content yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKResort Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I got a LED LG 40 for 10,000 thb last week in Lazada..after shopping a lot. Because its offers were discontinued models, and only because I asked, in Big C and Lotus, I was told that were selling WITHOUT warranty. Again, still finding good deals and good service in Lazada, I hooked the TV to an old desktop computer with wireless mouse and keyboard, and its becomes very SMART for little money. Edited May 25, 2015 by BKResort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) 1080P is old news guys - 4K/UHD is where it's at now The good news is, that means 1080P sets have plummeted in price, the bad news is that 40" is the new "small" - anything under this size is getting <= 2014 panel tech. 1080P 32" sets are selling for around the 9000 Baht mark, and there's not much choice anymore - most brands are making only one, maybe two models.. The majority of sets under 40" have now been relegated to 1366x768 / 720P panels with a target price point of < 7000 Baht. Edited May 25, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 What is 4K/UHD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) HD is 1080 in this part of the world - and even the USA is moving in that direction - so if you have local HD content, as we now have in Thailand, it should be 1080. So yes I would buy full HD receiver these days. Even the UHD is starting to be priced reasonably but really no content yet. 1080P has been active in Thailand since 2007 - when the first blu-ray players and media went to market here. Truevisions started broadcasting 1080i around 5 years ago - it's been here for some time now Edited May 25, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) What is 4K/UHD? TV's with 4x the resolution of Full HD / 1080P (3840 x 2160 vs 1920 x 1080 pixels). The only real UHD content available for them right now is Netflix, some Youtube clips, and some internet downloadable files. UHD Blu-ray will release before the end of the year, bringing high quality mainstream content. Don't expect any broadcasting in Thailand anytime soon though. That said, even regular 1080P and 1080i content looks better on 4K/UHD TV's, due to intelligent upscaling, and the fact that only UHD gets the latest improvements in picture quality tech. UHD = Ultra High Definition 4K = what the cinema industry calls this type of resolution. Both are being used interchangeably, but UHD will be the moniker used for home video equipment moving forward. Edited May 25, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Bloody technology these days, its difficult keeping up with it never mind paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 word of caution about Samsung ..... In older models around 2009 many folks were having problems with 'buzzing' noise that develops in the units. Google Samsung TV buzzing problems and you'll see all the complaints. We bought LG ... no problem ... good unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 HD is 1080 in this part of the world - and even the USA is moving in that direction - so if you have local HD content, as we now have in Thailand, it should be 1080. So yes I would buy full HD receiver these days. Even the UHD is starting to be priced reasonably but really no content yet. 1080P has been active in Thailand since 2007 - when the first blu-ray players and media went to market here. Truevisions started broadcasting 1080i around 5 years ago - it's been here for some time now You are talking about a cable system - not a free service - and even then most content was 720 (US HD source). Most people did not pay the cost for either TrueVisions or Blu-ray players. This is the land of CD. As for UHD or newer will take my discount and wait until next need for TV upgrade as just not required for what is available now and for immediate future for normal home use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) HD is 1080 in this part of the world - and even the USA is moving in that direction - so if you have local HD content, as we now have in Thailand, it should be 1080. So yes I would buy full HD receiver these days. Even the UHD is starting to be priced reasonably but really no content yet. 1080P has been active in Thailand since 2007 - when the first blu-ray players and media went to market here. Truevisions started broadcasting 1080i around 5 years ago - it's been here for some time now You are talking about a cable system - not a free service - and even then most content was 720 (US HD source). Most people did not pay the cost for either TrueVisions or Blu-ray players. This is the land of CD. As for UHD or newer will take my discount and wait until next need for TV upgrade as just not required for what is available now and for immediate future for normal home use. If you want to talk about most people in Thailand, they still have 15+ year old CRT's that need a smack on the side to work, 555 If talking about buying a new TV though, some might want to consider a little future-proofing, some might just want the latest advancements in picture quality (in addition to just increased resolution) - it would be amiss to not mention UHD to a prospective buyer - even if the immediate benefits are only modest. I bought my first 1080P panel before the launch of Blu-ray - and I didn't regret it We are talking about an appliance one would expect at least 5 years out of, some might only change every 10 years or more. Tech adoption and advancements move way too fast to dismiss widespread UHD content over those types of timeframes. Edited May 26, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 IMHO it seldom pays to buy first generation of anything; except perhaps for bragging rights. Improvements are always ongoing so by the time usage is indicated there are new options. As for the CRT - it still provides a really good video presentation and if format size had not changed would still be a reasonable choice for many. Try kicking an LED when it fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) We're in the 3rd generation of UHD panels now The first gen (2013) weren't really anything more than multiple 1080P panels stitched together. The second gen (2014) saw the introduction of IPS, Local Dimming, HDMI 2.0, HEVC and HDCP 2.2, some curved screens and OLED. In higher end models we also saw the first 5K 21:9 ultra wide sets. The third gen (2015) sees the introduction of ColorPrime, Quantum dot and multi-zone local dimming tech, along with HDMI 2.0a, with reduced prices/more sizes in OLED, and a wider range of curved screen models. Edited May 26, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyysdt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) If you want to talk about most people in Thailand, they still have 15+ year old CRT's that need a smack on the side to work, 555 If talking about buying a new TV though, some might want to consider a little future-proofing, some might just want the latest advancements in picture quality (in addition to just increased resolution) - it would be amiss to not mention UHD to a prospective buyer - even if the immediate benefits are only modest. I bought my first 1080P panel before the launch of Blu-ray - and I didn't regret it We are talking about an appliance one would expect at least 5 years out of, some might only change every 10 years or more. Tech adoption and advancements move way too fast to dismiss widespread UHD content over those types of timeframes. It's cool IMHO. This is why there is so much variety. Something for everyone. My focus is on a person who owns one of those 15 + year old CRT's that needs a wack. I don't think UHD is their market. Personally I purchased Full HD (1080P) but to this very day still only own 3 blu ray movies. Free to air is either SD or HD, and DVD's are generally up to 720p. I'll be choosing a panel largely on picture quality rather than technical capability. If I can get a Full HD for a similar price to a HD set then yes. If I have to spend 30% - 60% more and I'm find it difficult to separate picture quality on a movie or free to air, then give me the HD model. Remember the guy who shelled out 90,000 baht on the latest and best and is now struggling with faulty operation. I think 32 inch is fine in a small bedroom, but if you can get me a superior or similar 40 inch for around the same price I'm all ears. PS: Unless I'm loaded I wouldn't jump onto UHD just yet. I mean, I have 3D with a pair of the glasses and still don't use it. It will take years if at all and be at prohibitive prices to get your hands on UHD material to play. Edited May 26, 2015 by rockyysdt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyysdt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 So in summary: Steer clear of Samsung. Select HD if the picture quality is good. If you can buy Full HD at a good price compared to HD take it. Consider 40 inch as 32 inch are no longer being developed. Don't buy from Tesco as this is an outlet for obsolete sets with no warranty. Use lazada as a reference and to haggle. Then which is the best bang for buck 32 inch LED (HD or Full HD) today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If you want to talk about most people in Thailand, they still have 15+ year old CRT's that need a smack on the side to work, 555 If talking about buying a new TV though, some might want to consider a little future-proofing, some might just want the latest advancements in picture quality (in addition to just increased resolution) - it would be amiss to not mention UHD to a prospective buyer - even if the immediate benefits are only modest. I bought my first 1080P panel before the launch of Blu-ray - and I didn't regret it We are talking about an appliance one would expect at least 5 years out of, some might only change every 10 years or more. Tech adoption and advancements move way too fast to dismiss widespread UHD content over those types of timeframes. It's cool IMHO. This is why there is so much variety. Something for everyone. My focus is on a person who owns one of those 15 + year old CRT's that needs a wack. I don't think UHD is their market. Personally I purchased Full HD (1080P) but to this very day still only own 3 blu ray movies. Free to air is either SD or HD, and DVD's are generally up to 720p. I'll be choosing a panel largely on picture quality rather than technical capability. If I can get a Full HD for a similar price to a HD set then yes. If I have to spend 30% - 60% more and I'm find it difficult to separate picture quality on a movie or free to air, then give me the HD model. Remember the guy who shelled out 90,000 baht on the latest and best and is now struggling with faulty operation. I think 32 inch is fine in a small bedroom, but if you can get me a superior or similar 40 inch for around the same price I'm all ears. PS: Unless I'm loaded I wouldn't jump onto UHD just yet. I mean, I have 3D with a pair of the glasses and still don't use it. It will take years if at all and be at prohibitive prices to get your hands on UHD material to play. I had no intention of this thread becoming some sort of UHD soap box, so no hard feelings If the content is only free to air (max=720P) and DVD's (max=576P), there's actually nothing to be gained out of going to Full HD... Only you can guess if that's the way the viewing sources will remain or not though When it comes to size, there is a point where it gets just too big for low-res sources, and you end up watching a blocky, blurry mess. In a bedroom, 40" will never be too big though - so if you can find a good deal on one, go for it. Once you have ID'd a few models of interest, use priceza.com (searching for the model #) to find the best prices in Thailand. If a vendor isn't listed there, they aren't cheap enough to bother listing their inventory there Also check cdiscount.co.th for breaking offers - sometimes they have inventory that comes and goes faster than priceza can keep up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmworx Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 What ever you choose stay away from Samsung they are not very reliable TV's the operating system is painfully slow and they have zero customer support. Don't bother with 4K it's just for bragging rights. Get a Sony, worth the extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 8K TV's will be next, well they are here already and if you don't want to spend money on a car, you can get one of those instead: http://gizmodo.com/lgs-ludicrous-8k-tv-is-too-insane-for-my-eyes-to-handle-1677790143 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8K_resolution Well we are a bit off topic now, OP was talking about a decent 32"er, he-he. OP get a bigger TV than 32" as other also suggested, go for min 40" unless you live in a mini studio, my desk top monitor is 27" which is okay since I sit pretty close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Go for a 40" if you can, it is worth it I would go for Samsung, having had 3 over the years 32" - 40" and now 50" A great viewing experience Forget about 4K UHD or 8K as there is little or no material to view yet My TV is connected via a Yamaha A1010 amp that upscales all material to 1080 which helps as well I am away from home at the moment staying in a hotel, with only a 32" TV and I do miss that upscaling Edited May 29, 2015 by astral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Not sure if plasma is still available or not, but that would be my choice (and wouldn't worry for a moment about resolution - imo it pales into insignificance against black level, viewing angle, motion etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyysdt Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) The plasma LCD debate about black levels used to be true. I personally have 2 plasmas and enjoy them. LED LCD has come of age and now surpasses plasma. Plasma development ceased, economically speaking. LED technology continues to improve and is far more affordable. These days lcd sets blow plasma out of the water. Also Plasma is for large screens. I don't ever recall a memorable 32 inch plasma. Edited May 31, 2015 by rockyysdt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) The plasma LCD debate about black levels used to be true. I personally have 2 plasmas and enjoy them. LED LCD has come of age and now surpasses plasma. Plasma development ceased, economically speaking. LED technology continues to improve and is far more affordable. These days lcd sets blow plasma out of the water. Also Plasma is for large screens. I don't ever recall a memorable 32 inch plasma. There's plasmas and then there's plasmas though... the higher end plasmas (Pioneer Kuro, Panasonic ZT/VT) are only challenged by OLED for black levels. No way does my LG 4K IPS panel with local dimming best or even match my Panasonic VT series plasma for black levels - if you want plasma blacks, you'll need to pay OLED prices Edited May 31, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The plasma LCD debate about black levels used to be true. I personally have 2 plasmas and enjoy them. LED LCD has come of age and now surpasses plasma. Plasma development ceased, economically speaking. LED technology continues to improve and is far more affordable. These days lcd sets blow plasma out of the water. Also Plasma is for large screens. I don't ever recall a memorable 32 inch plasma. Do cheap (i.e. 32 inch) LEDs really have better black levels then plasmas? I'd be amazed if any cheap (or expensive) LED could touch a cheap plasma in uniformity, motion, viewing angle. Agree that they're on their way out though. Just think the OP shouldn't discount them - maybe he could find an end of line 43" Samsung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Another plus for plasma is electric usage, heat making, air conditioning usage and baht wasting. I can do a good job of black imagination with my mind for the savings. Some things are just not worth the price we pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Another plus for plasma is electric usage, heat making, air conditioning usage and baht wasting. I can do a good job of black imagination with my mind for the savings. Some things are just not worth the price we pay. Indeed! Why drink red wine which is so expensive, and when cosumed in quantitiy stains your teeth, makes you drunk, and dehydrates you - when you can just drink water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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