wantan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Wanted to go thru Khao Yai today and they asked more than 400 Baht for entry fee and bike fee. I showed my bike license but they told me that "the boss (from Khao Yai) has decided to stop this rule" and now farang have to pay full price even with driving license. Rule changed 1-2 months ago they told me. Someone here who knows more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Sorry, don't know more. But perhaps if you have a work permit or a yellow house registration book then perhaps that would help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Found this at http://wikitravel.org/en/Khao_Yai_National_Park : Adults: 400 baht (2015 fees). Note: In the past foreigners living in Thailand were able to enter for the Thai Residents fee if showing a Thai work permit, driving license or student card. However, from March 2015 these documents are no longer accepted, only a true Thai ID Card or Thai Passport allows one to enter for the Thai Resident fee. So it seems to be true what they told me. Very sad. Unacceptable for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 This is simply outrageous. I would be interested in knowing what kind of reasoning there is behind such a move, apart from the obvious "Farang have money, help Thailand".I think I will use that number for complaints for the first time (1111). So sad..., goodbye Khao Yai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Must be recent, paid Thai price at Songkran... Quite sad if true but I predict more of this type of nonsense given the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 This is simply outrageous. I would be interested in knowing what kind of reasoning there is behind such a move, apart from the obvious "Farang have money, help Thailand". I think I will use that number for complaints for the first time (1111). So sad..., goodbye Khao Yai So did i today. Bye, Khao Yai. As they insisted on getting full price i turned around and rode 100km detour to get back to Bangkok from the nothern entry of Khao Yai. I will not pay full price. I already pay my tax every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnigel Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Found this at http://wikitravel.org/en/Khao_Yai_National_Park : Adults: 400 baht (2015 fees). Note: In the past foreigners living in Thailand were able to enter for the Thai Residents fee if showing a Thai work permit, driving license or student card. However, from March 2015 these documents are no longer accepted, only a true Thai ID Card or Thai Passport allows one to enter for the Thai Resident fee. So it seems to be true what they told me. Very sad. Unacceptable for me! it's unacceptable for ALL of us mate, but they've got us by the 'short and curlies', if all farangs stopped going, if only for a little while, maybe, just maybe, they would have a rethink....(did i just think that out loud) i'm holding out anyway.... The thing is with these places, when there is a guide telling you about stuff, its only the Thais mainly that can understand it all, and they get it cheaper...(ok, who's the first to say "learn Thai then") I do a little, but not well enough....i'll get my coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 You make more money than the average Thai.Maybe everything in Thailand should cost more for foreigners then it Would feel more normal.If you want to play be prepared to pay.I don't pay attention to prices in Thailand.I mean so Many things are so much cheaper than from where I'm from that if there's A Thai price and A foreigner price so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttthailand Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Maybe best if all of us locals and our friends just stopped going to these places. But maybe the price increase is because the numbers have dropped off and they raise the prices to make up the difference . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 What kind of reasoning is that?There are plenty of Thais who earn more than I do, but they'll still pay 40Baht. Not every farang here earns top wages. Fact is, it's an arbitrary pricing and there's just no logical reason why a foreigner who's been living here for years should pay 10x more than a Thai. But please, go ahead, bend down and don't forget to say thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Boycott all nonsense. When your whiffer tells you that you are getting shafted, just turn around and run in the other direction. Fair is fair. And this is not fair. It is one thing for them to charge tourists the full price, but if you can prove you are a resident, there is no justification. Where is the man when we need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul9989 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't think we have anything to be upset about as foreigners being charged 10 times the Thai price to enter a national park in Thailand. It is perfectly fair. Because, after all, I know for sure that the Thais, when they go to visit a national park outside of Thailand like say Yosemite, Zion, or The Grand Canyon for example, that the Thais will have no problem at all paying 10 times the price as everyone else to enter those parks. Just ask any local. I am sure they will explain to you that they are totally comfortable with this mutual arrangement because fair is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttthailand Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't think we have anything to be upset about as foreigners being charged 10 times the Thai price to enter a national park in Thailand. It is perfectly fair. Because, after all, I know for sure that the Thais, when they go to visit a national park outside of Thailand like say Yosemite, Zion, or The Grand Canyon for example, that the Thais will have no problem at all paying 10 times the price as everyone else to enter those parks. Just ask any local. I am sure they will explain to you that they are totally comfortable with this mutual arrangement because fair is fair. I agree but 10 x 0 = 0 , most places in the U.S. Don't charge anyone anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul9989 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't think we have anything to be upset about as foreigners being charged 10 times the Thai price to enter a national park in Thailand. It is perfectly fair. Because, after all, I know for sure that the Thais, when they go to visit a national park outside of Thailand like say Yosemite, Zion, or The Grand Canyon for example, that the Thais will have no problem at all paying 10 times the price as everyone else to enter those parks. Just ask any local. I am sure they will explain to you that they are totally comfortable with this mutual arrangement because fair is fair.I agree but 10 x 0 = 0 , most places in the U.S. Don't charge anyone anything Oh, sorry, didn't realize that. Well then, I guess they will just have to pay more to visit national landmarks around the world too. Afterall, The Grand Palace in Bangkok charges 500 Baht for foreigners and is free for Thais. So I am sure Thais will be happy to pay 10x more than everyone else to visit for exmaple the Eiffel Tower in Paris, Acropolis In Athens, Statue of Liberty in New York, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul9989 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Also, the 10X entrance fee applies to any Thais who might be living in Paris, New York, or Athens for example, regardless of whether or not they are just tourists there or are in fact living there, paying taxes and are part of the system. This is because, and as we know, they would never stand for any form of double standards where resident foreigners in Thailand might be charged 10X times without resident Thais living overseas being charged the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Maybe best if all of us locals and our friends just stopped going to these places. That would teach 'em, huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Also, the 10X entrance fee applies to any Thais who might be living in Paris, New York, or Athens for example, regardless of whether or not they are just tourists there or are in fact living there, paying taxes and are part of the system. This is because, and as we know, they would never stand for any form of double standards where resident foreigners in Thailand might be charged 10X times without resident Thais living overseas being charged the same. What the <deleted> are you babbling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Boycott all nonsense. When your whiffer tells you that you are getting shafted, just turn around and run in the other direction. Fair is fair. And this is not fair. It is one thing for them to charge tourists the full price, but if you can prove you are a resident, there is no justification. Where is the man when we need him? Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaLovelace Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 History repeats. Next, we will be required to wear a pink star on our shirtfronts, then we will be rounded up and required to live in certain enclaves. And then . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Over a year ago, I used to kill time by going to the Pattaya Floating Market. It was always free when showing Thai DL. Last week they told me 200 baht, Thai DL is no longer valid for entry. Checked another gate, just to be sure. Yes, 200 baht. BUT, you then go inside, and they take your photo, and make you a VIP card, so you never have to pay again. I did not have a problem with this, except they do not automatically tell you about the VIP card. You have to investigate. Lucky that I speak Thai, because they did not speak English, so they could not tell anyone about the VIP card in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Stamp your feet and throw a tantrum. That's the way to deal with things. Well done boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 You make more money than the average Thai.Maybe everything in Thailand should cost more for foreigners then it Would feel more normal.If you want to play be prepared to pay.I don't pay attention to prices in Thailand.I mean so Many things are so much cheaper than from where I'm from that if there's A Thai price and A foreigner price so be it. Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 It's the same thing all over Thailand. From real estate over food to national parks. When revenue is down or people don't buy whatever you have on offer, you jack the price up to make up for the lost revenue should you be able to sell. Especially for farangs because we are all rich - or so I heard. And that of course further disincentivizes any potential buyer. But somehow people don't get the last part. Oh well, they'll sooner or later see where this leads. I'm waiting for the thai-foreigner split gasoline pumps with different prices. Thinking about it, maybe I'll start a startup business creating a special credit card that foreigners would get upon crossing immigration, linked to their own CC but it automatically will charge 2x the price and a weekly 10% interest fee on overdraft. Local businesses would then only accept that special VIP credit card. Oh shit, forgot. I can't own a business here. Bummer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Found this at http://wikitravel.org/en/Khao_Yai_National_Park : Adults: 400 baht (2015 fees). Note: In the past foreigners living in Thailand were able to enter for the Thai Residents fee if showing a Thai work permit, driving license or student card. However, from March 2015 these documents are no longer accepted, only a true Thai ID Card or Thai Passport allows one to enter for the Thai Resident fee. So it seems to be true what they told me. Very sad. Unacceptable for me! Any place which affects me in regard to illegal double pricing i simply just dont enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Any place which affects me in regard to illegal double pricing i simply just dont enter. Agree. Usually i give a damn about it and do not enter. But in this case i am really annoyed. I am visiting Khao Yai for years now and i spent a lot of money for renting rooms there. I never said a word about their substandard rooms they rent to visitors for high prices. I never said a word when there was no gas for heating the water in winter so that i had to take some very cold showers morning and evening. I know they dont have that much money and so i accepted it. But i will not accept an entry fee that is 10 times higher as for thai people. Thats some form of discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotog Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I believe in reciprocity but the USA don't have the balls for that. If I was in charge, I would tell Thailand: "You can do anything you want, charge whatever you want, restrict citizenship, land ownership, double pricing, barriers to owning a business etc, and we, sir, will do exactly the same. All Thais who visit or live in the U.S. will be subject to the same laws and restrictions that you impose on our citizens in Thailand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I believe in reciprocity but the USA don't have the balls for that. If I was in charge, I would tell Thailand: "You can do anything you want, charge whatever you want, restrict citizenship, land ownership, double pricing, barriers to owning a business etc, and we, sir, will do exactly the same. All Thais who visit or live in the U.S. will be subject to the same laws and restrictions that you impose on our citizens in Thailand" It's not a question of balls, rather 'who gives a <deleted>?' But when you are in charge I'm confident things will be fine. Edited June 1, 2015 by papa al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Machina Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I guess we will have to wait for the government to change for the dual pricing to change. All of the dual pricing is a mistake, resident foreigner or not. In the short term, the move will pay off even if 9 out of 10 ripped off foreigners refuse, which is to say, it will pay off, stupid as it is. Long term effects of making Thailand a worse place to visit is something that should probably be measured as a percentage of the marketing budget of the TAT. Even if it is a minuscule amount more advertising they have to do to compensate, there is no way it ends up a cash positive. Foreigners turning around and leaving I think will have an effect. Edited June 1, 2015 by Ex Machina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I guess we will have to wait for the government to change for the dual pricing to change. All of the dual pricing is a mistake, resident foreigner or not. In the short term, the move will pay off even if 9 out of 10 ripped off foreigners refuse, which is to say, it will pay off, stupid as it is. Long term effects of making Thailand a worse place to visit is something that should probably be measured as a percentage of the marketing budget of the TAT. Even if it is a minuscule amount more advertising they have to do to compensate, there is no way it ends up a cash positive. Foreigners turning around and leaving I think will have an effect. Seems like your paragraph 2 directly contradicts paragraph 4. Paragraph 3... incomprehensible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 DualSport. Si! Dual pricing, Nyet!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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