Vogele123 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Well, (I should have titled it "The Death Of Chang Beer - Classic" (as there a few variants that may have not changed and I expect a lot of people that drink the others will be still quite happy) after my last post about Chang Beer "Classic" I am pleased to say I will no longer be buying it. They have ruined the beer that made them famous. (Should have started one of those online petitions from Change.org or something - "Stop molesting Chang Classic") The "Classic" Beer has changed at least twice over the past few months from a starting point of 6.4% alcohol, to 6% alcohol to now a measly 5.8%, and the original "Classic" flavor has completely gone. A poster here on TV mentioned a beer called "RED HORSE" (I had never seen or heard of it before, despite living here for over 10 years. Well, today, thanks to Tesco Lotus Home Delivery, I managed to get a hold of 6 bottles just as a try out. Whilst it does not have the "head" or creaminess of Chang, it does indeed offer great value. Chang is now 5.8% Alcohol and costs 53 Baht for a 630mL bottle, whereas the Red Horse offers 6% Alcohol and is in a 640 mL bottle costing 47 Baht a bottle. It tastes OK, but no it is not Chang Classic, but neither is Chang a classic anymore. So, beer mongers and booze lovers, maybe give Red Horse a go......I am having great difficulty however finding any local shops that stock it. Edited June 3, 2015 by Vogele123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've waited years to hear this bit of news. And now I feel like swinging from the rafters and screaming Glory Hallelujah! But life sucks. I've quit drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Now i am worried ...Transam may become suicidal.... ....and probably a few others.... Hang in there fellas...remember, you loose one thing and gain another... JD hasn't changed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Some of those are available in LOS: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Tastes just the same as it ever did. Not like that's a good thing, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Some of those are available in LOS: Top row, 6th from the left. Edited June 3, 2015 by krisb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 So anyway, because it's lost point 6 of 1% of alcohol and it has 10ml less beer and is 6 baht more expensive than some beer no ones ever heard of, you won't drink it anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Has anyone actually done a blindfold test on whether that 0.2% makes any difference whatsoever? Still, it always entertains me when people start debating the tastiest Thai beer. It's like a tallest dwarf contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 All Thai beer tastes like cat's piss in my humble opinion. I find myself wasting tons of cash on imported stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogele123 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 So anyway, because it's lost point 6 of 1% of alcohol and it has 10ml less beer and is 6 baht more expensive than some beer no ones ever heard of, you won't drink it anymore? Indeed, I will be rethinking my preferred beer. It has not lost 0.6 of 1% (you cannot work in those terms with a percentage) It has lost what was 40.32ml Alcohol for 50 Baht to what is now 36.54 mL for 53 Baht. It is a very significant change. I gave up the Singha when it went the same way a few years back, it used to be somewhere similar to Chang then suddenly dropped to 5%, a totally different drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 It has lost what was 40.32ml Alcohol for 50 Baht to what is now 36.54 mL for 53 Baht. It is a very significant change. Wow. If getting the maximum bang for your buck is your major concern, have you considered meths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogele123 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Has anyone actually done a blindfold test on whether that 0.2% makes any difference whatsoever? Still, it always entertains me when people start debating the tastiest Thai beer. It's like a tallest dwarf contest. I have done the very same test, and you can certainly 100% without a doubt taste the difference between the old 6.4% to the 6%, the 6% to the 5.8% is very dependent on how many beers or cigs I have before trying it. I can tell the difference side by side at the same time, it just lacks the taste it used to have. If you try the 6.4% next to the 5.8% it is a totally different beer. People seem quick to mock Chang, I have been a beer guzzler for more than 35 years, I have drank some of the best German beers and some of the worst English beers, but I would not knock the Classic Chang. Who on earth would rather drink Carlsberg, Heiniken or some of these other beers here amazes me. I have never ever found an international brand beer sold here that tastes remotely like the same beer brewed in its home country. Ever tried a Chinese can of Guiness or a Chinese can of Tiger? Not even remotely equivalent. Edited June 3, 2015 by Vogele123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogele123 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) It has lost what was 40.32ml Alcohol for 50 Baht to what is now 36.54 mL for 53 Baht. It is a very significant change. Wow. If getting the maximum bang for your buck is your major concern, have you considered meths? I believe meths is purple, wood alcohol and deadly, however, I liked the original taste of Chang! They have for me, spoiled what I considered to be a decent brew. Besides, I have never seen a bottle of meths here, only "rubbing alcohol" is that any good with fish? Edited June 3, 2015 by Vogele123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If you try the 6.4% next to the 5.8% it is a totally different beer. Considering they stopped making the 6.4% well over a year ago, that's quite a trick. Even if you did lay your hands on some, it would certainly be past its best by now. Are you sure you did the taste test now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 So anyway, because it's lost point 6 of 1% of alcohol and it has 10ml less beer and is 6 baht more expensive than some beer no ones ever heard of, you won't drink it anymore? Indeed, I will be rethinking my preferred beer. It has not lost 0.6 of 1% (you cannot work in those terms with a percentage) It has lost what was 40.32ml Alcohol for 50 Baht to what is now 36.54 mL for 53 Baht. It is a very significant change. I gave up the Singha when it went the same way a few years back, it used to be somewhere similar to Chang then suddenly dropped to 5%, a totally different drink. Crikey...My GJD Chaser has more than 4ml in one shot, so the difference isn't much hey?...and it makes all beer taste the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 And I thought I had problems in my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Has anyone actually done a blindfold test on whether that 0.2% makes any difference whatsoever? Still, it always entertains me when people start debating the tastiest Thai beer. It's like a tallest dwarf contest. I have done the very same test, and you can certainly 100% without a doubt taste the difference between the old 6.4% to the 6%, the 6% to the 5.8% is very dependent on how many beers or cigs I have before trying it. I can tell the difference side by side at the same time, it just lacks the taste it used to have. If you try the 6.4% next to the 5.8% it is a totally different beer. People seem quick to mock Chang, I have been a beer guzzler for more than 35 years, I have drank some of the best German beers and some of the worst English beers, but I would not knock the Classic Chang. Who on earth would rather drink Carlsberg, Heiniken or some of these other beers here amazes me. I have never ever found an international brand beer sold here that tastes remotely like the same beer brewed in its home country. Ever tried a Chinese can of Guiness or a Chinese can of Tiger? Not even remotely equivalent. There's no way on this planet you can compare any Thai beer to a decent German or Belgium beer that has pure ingredients. Read this... http://foodbabe.com/2013/07/17/the-shocking-ingredients-in-beer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't try to drink rubbing alcohol- they put stuff in it to make you throw up. Not saying how I know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't try to drink rubbing alcohol- they put stuff in it to make you throw up. Not saying how I know that Also, don't rub yourself with Chang. You'll smell terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Now i am worried ...Transam may become suicidal.... ....and probably a few others.... Hang in there fellas...remember, you loose one thing and gain another... JD hasn't changed.. how is this a negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I agree Chang Classic lost it's taste, but still not as bad as leo. Big C normally have some Red Horse and Cheers extra is not bad, but they put the strength of that down as well. All Thai beer, like their bread is just a facsimile of the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod45 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I used to drink Chang, moved on to Leo, but none of the Thai beers, in my opinion, really offer that much, and once a few ice cubes are dropped in, I wouldn't be able tell much difference. There are quite a few alternative beers, but I'm not paying $5 a bottle. The problem isn't with Chang, the problem is there are only 3 main beers offered here. I've had Cheers, nothing special either. I'll take a good Oatmeal Stout any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zierf1 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Cheers Xtra is good stuff and cheap. Alcoholics love it. Red Horse is really nasty but it's great if you're on a budget. I have drank it and could barely finish a single bottle. Edited June 3, 2015 by zierf1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I used to drink Chang, moved on to Leo, but none of the Thai beers, in my opinion, really offer that much, and once a few ice cubes are dropped in, I wouldn't be able tell much difference. There are quite a few alternative beers, but I'm not paying $5 a bottle. The problem isn't with Chang, the problem is there are only 3 main beers offered here. I've had Cheers, nothing special either. I'll take a good Oatmeal Stout any day. Yep. Thai beer is drinkable, but nothing to get excited about - and they're all much the same. I guess some people have nothing better to do than fret over being denied their last 0.2%, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Now i am worried ...Transam may become suicidal.... ....and probably a few others.... Hang in there fellas...remember, you loose one thing and gain another... JD hasn't changed.. how is this a negative? Smaller Bottles with less kick....Thats a real problem for some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 All Thai beer tastes like cat's piss in my humble opinion. I find myself wasting tons of cash on imported stuff. I always considered cat piss to taste better than Chang, and is a delicatesse compared to red horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 It depends on what you feed the cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 All Thai beer tastes like cat's piss in my humble opinion. I find myself wasting tons of cash on imported stuff. I always considered cat piss to taste better than Chang, and is a delicatesse compared to red horse Even my dogs wont drink Chang....but they will drink Leo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Chang? Red Horse? Westerners actually drink that cr@p? Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Chang? Red Horse? Westerners actually drink that cr@p? Blimey. Some do. Other pay a few baht more for much the same stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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