Aviation: Thai transport minister is unsure of greenlight from FAA

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Transport minister is unsure of greenlight from FAA



BANGKOK: -- Transport Minister Prajin Juntong admitted on Monday that he was not sure that all the necessary steps taken by the Civil Aviation Department to improve aviation safety standards supervision will pass the approval of the Federal Aviation Administration.

However, he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements.

FAA officials from the United States are in Thailand as of Monday until Friday to examine all aspects of the Civil Aviation Department which include documentation and the granting of aviation licenses to new airliners.

Air Chief Marshal Prajin said he hoped the Civil Aviation Department’s presentation of report about how it has been dealing with the aviation safety standards shortcomings as observed by the ICAO and steps taken to address the problem should make FAA officials understand better of the situation.

He admitted that the Civil Aviation Department had not recified all the problems pointed out by ICAO but they are being addressed.

The department, he added, has completed the flight operating inspector manual as well as the air operating certification requirement. A seminar is scheduled to be held next week so all parties concerned will familiarize themselves with the two sets of documents.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/transport-minister-is-unsure-of-greenlight-from-faa


-- Thai PBS 2015-07-14

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

"he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements"

They are very good at begging for more time.

[BSJ]

"Transport Minister Prajin Juntong admitted on Monday that he was not sure" Not sure......that must be a miss print!

"beg for more time to make the improvements" Beg......that must be a miss print!

"He admitted that the Civil Aviation Department had not recified all the problems" not recified......that must be a miss print!

Bad reporter......bad bad bad!

[NongKhaiKid]

"he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements"

They are very good at begging for more time.

And more time, and more and more....!

Next comment will be that he's sure the inspectors will ' understand '.

[noitom]

He's "not sure" i Thais meet standards. He will go "begging."

[davehowden]

"The department, he added, has completed the flight operating inspector manual as well as the air operating certification requirement"

What, you had to start from scratch to create Thai versions?

Why not just use some language translation software from English to Thai, job done, not that anybody in Thailand will bother to read them anyway.

[CNXTim]

You can be sure one of the main shortcomings is due to a woeful grasp of English - mandatory, and unlike many other ASEAN members, sadly lacking i all aspects of Thai business and government.

[englishoak]

Thailand... hub of begging for more time...

[PatOngo]

You can be sure one of the main shortcomings is due to a woeful grasp of English - mandatory, and unlike many other ASEAN members, sadly lacking i all aspects of Thai business and government.

I beg to differ,at least a taxi is a taxi and a submarine is a submaline.

[chainarong]

The Good Minister certainly has his finger on the pulse, hasn't a clue whether the FAA will pass anything , one thing that can be said about Thai heads of Departments they aren't there for the brains, no wonder the DCA is in such a mess. this guy wouldn't know the difference between a glidescope and a tv set.

[selftaopath]

"he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements"

They are very good at begging for more time.

Many things around here would NOT take so damn long if more individuals got up off their ASSES and put effort into the task at hand. This might very well be yet ANOTHER example of incompetence/ignorance/ nepotism.

[clockman]

"he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements"

They are very good at begging for more time.

Lots of loss of face!

[ramrod711]

"he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements"

They are very good at begging for more time.

Many things around here would NOT take so damn long if more individuals got up off their ASSES and put effort into the task at hand. This might very well be yet ANOTHER example of incompetence/ignorance/ nepotism.

Don't be so impatient, meetings are happening, free bags are being distributed, lot's of waing to Poo Yais, you need to understand Thainess.

[LomSak27]

Wait Noooooo!

Just a week ago it was all going to be clear sailing, that these yellow cards always happen and are in fact protocol; business as usual.

FAA officials from the United States are in Thailand as of Monday until Friday to examine all aspects of the Civil Aviation Department which include documentation and the granting of aviation licenses to new airliners.

Obviously Day 1 did not go well, time to get down to brass tacks and .... beg for more time to make the improvements.

[oneday]

"...However, he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials..."

The FAA is not interested in "explanations". They will give you a list of deficiencies and a timeline to fix them. It's really quite simple folks. I'm sure this is a difficult task, but at least you will have a clear list of what needs fixing and what still needs to be done. Just go do it and stop whining.

[slapout]

All appears clear enough, the assignment and instructions issued to comply with FAA requirements have not been completed. If this is acknowledged now why would begging, making excuses, pointing fingers, etc even be discussed? Fess up and ask for a delay so more work can be done with a schedule drawn up for getting corrections made, when, and a named individual responsible fo reporting progress upon request by anyone concerened.

Next step is blame a flood, drought, or fire, any or all of which were the result of the neighbors and i have not recieved a written report as yet as the stationary delivery with my family pedigree and crest has not arrived as the budget request for , and10 million baht was accidently given to the janitor who has not reported to work since. we have assigned thr foreign minister to check border exits to see if he is gone outside our trap inplacements

Not sure but as mentioned it clearly indicates another miswfit individual in a position so far above his intellectial capability that he probably follows footprints painted on the concrete surface from where his driver drops him to his hidey hole called a office.

[deckape]

Why not just use some language translation software from English to Thai, job done, not that anybody in Thailand will bother to read them anyway.

That is probably how it was done....not enough time to do it until now. Those upper stages of candy crush are difficult.

[Lupatria]

…he was not sure that all the necessary steps taken by the Civil Aviation Department to improve aviation safety standards supervision will pass the approval of the Federal Aviation Administration.

…authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials and to beg for more time to make the improvements.

What a bright statement: Bad enough if he is not sure what is going on under his administration. However, even Somchai the Tuktuk driver can understand what the second part means:

We did not do our our job as promised but we can explain why (evil spirits- the draught- unfair regulations- a third party’s fault- misunderstanding- and bad reporting by the media?).

Is this man aware about the fact there are lives of people at risk if air safety is handled the usual infamous Thai way?

[quandow]

You can be sure one of the main shortcomings is due to a woeful grasp of English - mandatory, and unlike many other ASEAN members, sadly lacking i all aspects of Thai business and government.

My first clew was the term "greenlight." Two words, green light = good. One word, greenlight = you gonna get a shiv out in da yard!

[selftaopath]

"...However, he said that authorities concerned were ready to give the explanation to the FAA officials..."

The FAA is not interested in "explanations". They will give you a list of deficiencies and a timeline to fix them. It's really quite simple folks. I'm sure this is a difficult task, but at least you will have a clear list of what needs fixing and what still needs to be done. Just go do it and stop whining.

Maybe they really don't know how to "do it." How many times have you been told "can" etc. and nada... at times the item in question was worse after the "engineer" fixed it.

[movsrus]

Thai Airways doesn't have many flights to the US so if it did not pass the FAA inspection it would not take a major hit in business with the US but if they don't get a green light will it effect their code share arrangements with other Star Alliance members? Can Thai Airways lose accreditation with the FAA but still do code shares with other Star Alliance members? Also, if they don't get FAA approval will it impact their operations in other EU countries?

[fgmr]

Why not just use some language translation software from English to Thai, job done, not that anybody in Thailand will bother to read them anyway.

That is probably how it was done....not enough time to do it until now. Those upper stages of candy crush are difficult.

If the Thai to English translation software is a yardstick then I am sure the reverse would end up all gobble-de-gook.

[fgmr]

Back in time when this issue was first raised with the ICAO report some of us stated our cynicism regarding Thailand's ability to rectify shortcomings by July.

What progress reports have ever been issued and what steps taken to meet missed targets? I have not seen any heads rolling because of their inability to meet schedules. That is presuming there was some kind of project/programme management set up!