We're still a target, claim anti-coup students

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We're still a target, claim anti-coup students
KASAMAKORN CHANWANPEN
THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE 14 anti-coup students who were imprisoned by the government claimed yesterday that they are still being followed by security officials - three weeks after their release from prison for opposing the coup, despite being less politically active.

The students, who were members of New Democracy Movement (NDM), met with European Union (EU) diplomats yesterday at the EU Delegation Office to update them on their situation. They had been intimidated by the military junta since their release on July 8, said Rangsiman Rome, a key NDM member.

About 15 people from the NDM attended the meeting, including Rangsiman, Panupong Sritananuwat, Payu Boonsophone and others. Some of the 14 arrested for allegedly violating the National Council for Peace and Order's (NCPO) order and Article 116 of the criminal code forbidding sedition, attended. Also present were their legal team, friends and family.

Rangsiman said NDM members and their families were still being followed by officials monitoring their movements. Wiboon Boonpatta-raraksa, father of NDM member Jatupat Boonpattararaksa told The Nation some parents of the 14 activists had been frequently visited by soldiers, provincial officials as well as Interior Ministry officials, both at home and at their offices.

Rangsiman said he believed the EU officials had wanted to meet them to update them on the situation, including how the activists were still being threatened by officials. Asked how he had been after the group's 12-day detention, he said he was preparing for his fifth-year undergraduate law studies at Thammasat University.

Another NDM member, Rattapol Supasophon, said he had been leading a "slow life" and was also preparing for a post-grad education starting next month, as he had not graduated yet.

Asked how the legal case had progressed, Rangsiman said he had not paid attention to it, insisting that he rejected the legitimacy of the military court and the NCPO.

Lawyer Kritsadang Nutcharas, who represents the 14, said police investigators had not yet submitted the case to the prosecutors. They were still pursuing investigation into whether the accused had violated Article 116 by committing sedition or not, the lawyer said.

He added that the 14 were summoned by the police for testimony on July 23, but refused to cooperate to show their resistance to the military court. However, such an action would not affect or worsen their case, Kritsadang insisted, adding that the defendants had the right to remain silent and only testify in court. The police's job was to investigate and gather evidence, the lawyer said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Were-still-a-target-claim-anti-coup-students-30265451.html


-- The Nation 2015-07-29

[Somtamnication]

It will be like this until at least 2017. The students are fighting an uphill battle.

[steven100]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

[Plutojames88]

Sounds like a draconian State in all truth .....democracy is opinion and freedom to differ....this stuff is well ..you know.

And with Tourism from non - communist countries way down and a tier 3 stamped firmly on their foreheads as a Nation.

These stories just have people booking flights to less dark corners of Asia

[BigBadGeordie]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

I was told that the parents of some of the students, and, indeed some of the students themselves have been known to eat som-tam and sticky rice!

Enough said!

These dishes were know to be the prefered diet of Thailands communist insurgents many years ago!

[tbthailand]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

[Linky]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

Then shouldnt the parents be the ones that are followed?

[Plutojames88]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

I was told the moon was made of cheese ......

Seems one of us went on to believing everything people says as gospel ....

Who in their right mind would believe that without facts ?

I heard ...who from some clown in a gated Condo block with some insidious need to express hate on brave kids?

Geez

Edited July 29, 2015 by Plutojames88

[steven100]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

So you want everyone to have the right to assemble in protests, make trouble, complain about everything, cry foul ... and go back to the way it was before !!

yeah, that would be real good .. wouldn't it ... thais were so much better off !

[robblok]

You reap what you sow.. they wanted to antagonize the government.. they got it.

But wow.. big deal being followed.. they put themselves in the spotlight and now cry like babies. Typical.

[Linky]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

So you want everyone to have the right to assemble in protests, make trouble, complain about everything, cry foul ... and go back to the way it was before !!

yeah, that would be real good .. wouldn't it ... thais were so much better off !

Well yes, peaceful demonstrations should be a right. So should complaining.

If Thais are better off as you imply then why would they want to complain and protest?

Edit: you do realise that you are happy the way the situation is now because.....wait for it......Thai protested and complained. But I guess its ok when you agree with it.

Edited July 29, 2015 by Linky

[apetley]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

You were told........Must be true then.

[NongKhaiKid]

No matter the rights and wrongs the students may well be right as they're a soft target, much easier to tackle than fishing boat operators or sort out licensing laws.

[halloween]

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

Perhaps you could tell your red mates about rights, like the right to stay alive, even with opposing views.

[steven100]

All i'm saying is that IMO in any civil society you have to have rules and regulations. If you don't then things get out of hand and people start crossing the line such as happened before with street protests, shootings, bombings and kaos.

I believe in free speech and rights, but there's a right way to go about it and there's a wrong way to go about it.

If there was no law and order enforced then the protests would start again, streets blocked, shootings and all sorts of issues again and we move back to square one ... I don't think thats a good idea.

If you don't have authority, some people will take the opportunity to cause trouble and then it just snowballs.

Ok, let these kids protests ? then tomorrow more kids protest ... then another group starts making demands ? then it starts to become a security concern because you let the first group protest ...

[Linky]

All i'm saying is that IMO in any civil society you have to have rules and regulations. If you don't then things get out of hand and people start crossing the line such as happened before with street protests, shootings, bombings and kaos.

I believe in free speech and rights, but there's a right way to go about it and there's a wrong way to go about it.

If there was no law and order enforced then the protests would start again, streets blocked, shootings and all sorts of issues again and we move back to square one ... I don't think thats a good idea.

If you don't have authority, some people will take the opportunity to cause trouble and then it just snowballs.

Ok, let these kids protests ? then tomorrow more kids protest ... then another group starts making demands ? then it starts to become a security concern because you let the first group protest ...

Blocking streets and govt buildings and polling booths is indeed wrong. The army should have stepped in and stopped it when it got out of hand. So I agree with you.

But peaceful protest is a right in any civil society.

[Linky]

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

Perhaps you could tell your red mates about rights, like the right to stay alive, even with opposing views.

True, but has nothing to do with what he said.

[pisico]

I was told that the parents of some of the the students are red shirt cohorts ....

enough said ..... trouble makes trouble which ever way you look at it !!

I was told the moon was made of cheese ......

Seems one of us went on to believing everything people says as gospel ....

Who in their right mind would believe that without facts ?

I heard ...who from some clown in a gated Condo block with some insidious need to express hate on brave kids?

Geez

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"I heard ...who from some clown in a gated Condo block with some insidious need to express hate on brave kids?"

TSK, TSK, TSK ! Don't you know that is how many (who do not speak or read Thai) get their information?

They get the info from significant others without verifying. Also, as a matter of "principle", they adhere to the same political persuasion of their significant others.

"I was (Labour, Democrat, etc.) in my country, therefore, what Mrs./Mr. Somchai says must be true...." Get it?

[halloween]

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

Perhaps you could tell your red mates about rights, like the right to stay alive, even with opposing views.

True, but has nothing to do with what he said.

It was an attempt to point out relative values. He seems to have trouble discerning such.

[pisico]

All i'm saying is that IMO in any civil society you have to have rules and regulations. If you don't then things get out of hand and people start crossing the line such as happened before with street protests, shootings, bombings and kaos.

I believe in free speech and rights, but there's a right way to go about it and there's a wrong way to go about it.

If there was no law and order enforced then the protests would start again, streets blocked, shootings and all sorts of issues again and we move back to square one ... I don't think thats a good idea.

If you don't have authority, some people will take the opportunity to cause trouble and then it just snowballs.

Ok, let these kids protests ? then tomorrow more kids protest ... then another group starts making demands ? then it starts to become a security concern because you let the first group protest ...

QUOTE:

"Ok, let these kids protests ? then tomorrow more kids protest ... then another group starts making demands ? then it starts to become a security concern because you let the first group protest ..."

Law and order really? FYI: TIT

Before you go about cheer-leading the indefensible, FYI read about Sarit, a former military dictator from not too distant a past and you will understand the students' stance in this specific instance.

[baboon]

All i'm saying is that IMO in any civil society you have to have rules and regulations. If you don't then things get out of hand and people start crossing the line such as happened before with street protests, shootings, bombings and kaos.

I believe in free speech and rights, but there's a right way to go about it and there's a wrong way to go about it.

If there was no law and order enforced then the protests would start again, streets blocked, shootings and all sorts of issues again and we move back to square one ... I don't think thats a good idea.

If you don't have authority, some people will take the opportunity to cause trouble and then it just snowballs.

Ok, let these kids protests ? then tomorrow more kids protest ... then another group starts making demands ? then it starts to become a security concern because you let the first group protest ...

Going by the above, it would seem you don't believe in free speech at all. How was a non violent, non disruptive protest not going about things the right way?

So what if protests grow and grow if they are a manifestation of the justifiable anger of the masses being denied their rights? They are not the ones at fault..

[MZurf]

which justifies violating their basic human rights like the right to assembly and the right to free speech, ... ?

Perhaps you could tell your red mates about rights, like the right to stay alive, even with opposing views.

True, but has nothing to do with what he said.

It was an attempt to point out relative values. He seems to have trouble discerning such.

Yes, because all red shirts are terrorists and all yellow shirts are peace lovers. Welcome to the relative reality of Halloween!

[MZurf]

You reap what you sow.. they wanted to antagonize the government.. they got it.

But wow.. big deal being followed.. they put themselves in the spotlight and now cry like babies. Typical.

Typical of what exactly?

[robblok]

You reap what you sow.. they wanted to antagonize the government.. they got it.

But wow.. big deal being followed.. they put themselves in the spotlight and now cry like babies. Typical.

Typical of what exactly?

Of attention-seekers who only want the right kind of attention and are crying when they realize not all the attention is the kind they want. They put themselves in this position. and now they cry over someone following them. Sounds more like they need more attention and brought this out. Because its non news.. just being followed.

[halloween]

It was an attempt to point out relative values. He seems to have trouble discerning such.

Yes, because all red shirts are terrorists and all yellow shirts are peace lovers. Welcome to the relative reality of Halloween!

Of course, he's not the only one.

[halloween]

When someone is paranoid about being targeted, think of the fun you could have with a laser pointer.

[MZurf]

You reap what you sow.. they wanted to antagonize the government.. they got it.

But wow.. big deal being followed.. they put themselves in the spotlight and now cry like babies. Typical.

Typical of what exactly?

Of attention-seekers who only want the right kind of attention and are crying when they realize not all the attention is the kind they want. They put themselves in this position. and now they cry over someone following them. Sounds more like they need more attention and brought this out. Because its non news.. just being followed.

You're right. Sadly enough in this country a small group of students staging a non-violent protest and being followed by the authorities weeks after it has been done is no longer news

[LannaGuy]

I have been told... that they were all paid by Thaksin and sent by the USA to subvert the junta

[MZurf]

It was an attempt to point out relative values. He seems to have trouble discerning such.

Yes, because all red shirts are terrorists and all yellow shirts are peace lovers. Welcome to the relative reality of Halloween!

Of course, he's not the only one.

Raised on BS, you can smell him a mile away.

[robblok]

I have been told... that they were all paid by Thaksin and sent by the USA to subvert the junta

Yes I heard the same thing that they were paid by Thaksin and this was just the first step to a bloody civil ware that all red support and where red shirt farangs will be sacrificed in false flag operations

(any more gossip ? mine is about as accurate as yours)