Pib Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 In my case, Windows 10 was a clean install. Windows was only released 29 July...since then there have only been approx 20 cumulative/security updates. Not like going out and buying Win 8.X or Win 7 which has been released for years and has had many, many updates/security patches released...a lot of catching up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 For me an upgrade to W 10 was obvious. This is it - so get used to it. Of course patches are inevitable. I can wear that. Now that MS have made a definitive statement ie all previous versions of Windows are to be phased out ASAP, things will get better as staff can concentrate on W 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 A clean install? Time? Benefits (if any)? Which method have you used & why? Which apps are useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I have gotten windows 10 too as for people talking about security updates that is only normal when it is just released. Sure win 8.1 or 7 might be safer but also hackers need time to work out exploits. So I don't worry too much got enough security and I am a stupid user that clicks on anything that blinks. I must say I had no problems with the installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 A post has been removed please do not cross post the same content across multiple topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 I have gotten windows 10 too as for people talking about security updates that is only normal when it is just released. Sure win 8.1 or 7 might be safer but also hackers need time to work out exploits. So I don't worry too much got enough security and I am a stupid user that clicks on anything that blinks. I must say I had no problems with the installation. Sure it's safe....there are still security updates being issued for Win 7 and Win 8.X,...while they may be considered mature operating systems new bugs are always being discovered. And now Win 10 joins that list. And this is a good thing. Would you want to have an OS and associated MS products like their Office product and IE product, where no security updates/patches were issued regularly and instead lived behind a false facade of never needing updates. Go to this Microsoft webpage to see updates released so far in 2015 for MS operating systems and other products. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacnl2000 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 VS2005 works fine under Windows 10 [ ... snipped ... ] Correction: VS2005 compilation works on Windows 10, but as soon as C++ sourcecode is loaded in the VS2005 debugger then the Windows 10 operating system stops, becomes totally inoperable, forcing me to push the power button in order to regain control of the laptop. Personally it's definitely not a fully workable combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 New computer teach fixed W 10 omissions. He created another problem - all files in EXCEL & Word are missing. Thankfully, not many - just a nuisance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 It's always YOUR obligation to BACK UP critical data BEFORE handing your system over to a tech, or a teach (I don't like being 'schooled' any more than the rest of you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 It's always YOUR obligation to BACK UP critical data BEFORE handing your system over to a tech, or a teach (I don't like being 'schooled' any more than the rest of you). You live but you don't always learn. Fortunately, the losses were minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did my windows 10 upgrade about 2 weeks ago. The original installation was painless and seemed to work initially. 48 hours ago Monkeysoft automatically hit me with Update #1 for windows 10 Since I received update 1 to Windows 10 I have had 2 days of problems. Yesterday I took them up on the offer that my free upgrade to windows 10 could be removed and re-installed to windows 8.1. Goodbye and good riddance to windows 10. I'll stay with windows 8.1 for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefSlapper Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) not sure i posted it already, cant find it so here you go Windows 10: The Spy Edition Windows 10 should be renamed Windows 1984 as that is the true nature of the operating system. Windows 10 was released a short while ago with millions having downloaded it already. It is being lauded as the most widely adopted Windows at launch. Windows 10 is free for the first year, even for pirated editions of Windows so that even people with illegal versions of Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 can use Windows 10 and get used to it and given a year Microsoft hope that even people who can’t afford it will eventually buy it. Read more: http://www.veteranstodaymoney.com/2015/08/windows-10-spy-edition/ Edited August 22, 2015 by Rimmer 14) You will not post any copyrighted material except as fair use laws apply (as in the case of news articles). Please only post a link, the headline and the first three sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Had my first Windows 10 update today that didn't' agree with my Lenovo Z510 laptop.. It was an updated Synaptics Pointing Device (mouse pad) driver that would have probably been an "Optional" driver to install under previous Windows versions which I could have refused if desired. The updated driver successfully installed but would not work right with my mouse pad...you would get popup errors when trying to open the pad's icon to adjust settings and the icon would appear and then disappear in the task bar...kinda like blinking on and off every few seconds. I rolled backed to my previous version driver which was the driver for my laptop model obtained from the Lenovo Support website and everything is fine again. I then did a Check for Updates three times to see if it would reload the driver that don't fully work and it did not which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Upgraded to W 10 about one week ago. Very easy to adapt to. Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. At other times, it looks for the site but TIMES OUT. Windows 7 - never had a problem. "Start Up" now very slow. Would I go back to W 7? NEVER! These minor problems will soon be resolved. Edited August 24, 2015 by fang37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. Enter the site from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. Enter the site from where? From the Homepage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. Enter the site from where? From the Homepage. Sounds like you may have Edge set as your Default browser. When Win 10 installs, Edge is set as your default browser. If you want another browser as your default browser, say your use Chrome, IE, whatever browser you have loaded., just got to Settings, System, Default Apps, and then under Web Browser see what the default browser is set to....and change it if you desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabdog Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 it's funny all the people freaking out about privacy in windows 10. Sure they're being pretty intrusive about things but you can fix most of the issues with a quick search and a few tweaks. But really if you have a smartphone with a google account you didn't have any privacy left anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) I took the free upgrade about 2 weeks ago, after 1 week I realized it wasn't for me. At first it seemed to work reasonably well. Then I got an update from Microsoft that started causing problems with some of my old programs. Had problems being kicked off certain sites.... one of which also happened to be this forum. After 72 hours of frustration, exercised my option to remove windows 10 and re-install windows 8.1. I just found out today how to remove that nagging piece of Microsoft malware that kept trying to remind me that windows 10 was waiting for installation, and I should install it. No thank you....I don't want windows 10 ever again. Don't need it, don't want it, and happy that I deleted it to re-install windows 8.1 Edited August 25, 2015 by IMA_FARANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. Enter the site from where? From the Homepage. Sounds like you may have Edge set as your Default browser. When Win 10 installs, Edge is set as your default browser. If you want another browser as your default browser, say your use Chrome, IE, whatever browser you have loaded., just got to Settings, System, Default Apps, and then under Web Browser see what the default browser is set to....and change it if you desire. Pib Got to Default Apps Web browser?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Annoying - some times - Gmail & Ask.com - rather than enter the site, "Edge" bobs up. Enter the site from where? From the Homepage. Sounds like you may have Edge set as your Default browser. When Win 10 installs, Edge is set as your default browser. If you want another browser as your default browser, say your use Chrome, IE, whatever browser you have loaded., just got to Settings, System, Default Apps, and then under Web Browser see what the default browser is set to....and change it if you desire. Pib Got to Default Apps Web browser?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pib Got to Default Apps Web browser?????? Yeap...just like I said...the Web Browser selection is near the bottom of the various apps....see below....see how I have Chrome selected....it was Edge until I changed it to Chrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pib, it seems that problem is solved. ANOTHER Startup - pre W 10 - lightning - 10-15sec W 10 - 40 sec Even going into Gmail etc, speed has declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Wouldn't begin to guess why your speed has slowed down....maybe due to some other program that starts up with Windows. With my Lenovo Z510 laptop running Win 8.1 it would boot up to the Desktop screen in approx 12 - 15 seconds....same for Windows 10 although it seems to be closer to the 12 vs the 15 seconds.. However, occasionally with Win 8.1 and Win 10 it will take around 30 seconds to boot-up....maybe that's due to a Windows update (that I didn't even know occurred) which required some extra time to adjust settings/configuration.....maybe my Norton 360 did some housecleaning in the background before the last shutdown which caused a slower bootup that one time...I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Been on Win 10 on both my pc,s for a fortnight now..................great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabdog Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pib, it seems that problem is solved. ANOTHER Startup - pre W 10 - lightning - 10-15sec W 10 - 40 sec Even going into Gmail etc, speed has declined. Possibly the fault of your computer's hardware manufacturer not having all the drivers ready for 10. Could also be a myriad of other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Only a true geek or a fool would instal a new operating system on or very near its release date, more balanced minds will wait at least one year or more. To be fair, it's the free offer that has people excited, so this is different than previous upgrades. I'm trying it on one of my computers. After about 2 weeks I wish I hadn't, and I'm getting ready to downgrade again. I only installed it on my entertainment computer - I wouldn't risk upgrading my work computer. I upgraded a computer that had a recent clean install of Windows 7 which was working perfectly, so if an upgrade should be trouble free, this was the best chance. Windows 10 takes forever to boot up and be ready for use. Even after it has booted, I have to wait 5 minutes before some of my apps are ready to go. Every boot something different happens - weird sh*t. The event viewer shows a long line of critical events on every boot. Read this article and head their advice: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953307/microsoft-windows/windows-10-is-for-suckers.html If you haven't done it already - don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pib, it seems that problem is solved. ANOTHER Startup - pre W 10 - lightning - 10-15sec W 10 - 40 sec Even going into Gmail etc, speed has declined. Possibly the fault of your computer's hardware manufacturer not having all the drivers ready for 10. Could also be a myriad of other things. LOL> making excuses for Windows 10. You hit the nail on the head "could be a myriad of other things". That's really a Windows 10 shortfall, for not allowing users to easily find and solve the problems. Troubleshooting "the myriad of other things" should be built into the system. I'm guess a lot of users will be using the fast downgrade feature, which is available for 30 days only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Only a true geek or a fool would instal a new operating system on or very near its release date, more balanced minds will wait at least one year or more. To be fair, it's the free offer that has people excited, so this is different than previous upgrades. I'm trying it on one of my computers. After about 2 weeks I wish I hadn't, and I'm getting ready to downgrade again. I only installed it on my entertainment computer - I wouldn't risk upgrading my work computer. I upgraded a computer that had a recent clean install of Windows 7 which was working perfectly, so if an upgrade should be trouble free, this was the best chance. Windows 10 takes forever to boot up and be ready for use. Even after it has booted, I have to wait 5 minutes before some of my apps are ready to go. Every boot something different happens - weird sh*t. The event viewer shows a long line of critical events on every boot. Read this article and head their advice: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953307/microsoft-windows/windows-10-is-for-suckers.html If you haven't done it already - don't! Clean install, reinstall updated apps & drivers and all will be well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Only a true geek or a fool would instal a new operating system on or very near its release date, more balanced minds will wait at least one year or more. To be fair, it's the free offer that has people excited, so this is different than previous upgrades. I'm trying it on one of my computers. After about 2 weeks I wish I hadn't, and I'm getting ready to downgrade again. I only installed it on my entertainment computer - I wouldn't risk upgrading my work computer. I upgraded a computer that had a recent clean install of Windows 7 which was working perfectly, so if an upgrade should be trouble free, this was the best chance. Windows 10 takes forever to boot up and be ready for use. Even after it has booted, I have to wait 5 minutes before some of my apps are ready to go. Every boot something different happens - weird sh*t. The event viewer shows a long line of critical events on every boot. Read this article and head their advice: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953307/microsoft-windows/windows-10-is-for-suckers.html If you haven't done it already - don't! I have just read your reference. With all the pain of installing W 10, I loathe reverting back to W 7. Slow startup is my biggest complaint. There are others but relatively minor at this stage. I should be a Jew (???) & bang my head against the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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