Logical Fallacy About Thailand

[farang000999]

Many of you are constantly saying that you love Thailand because it is cheap and because there are poor desperate women but that is not actually Thailand.

"Thailand" is things that are culturally Thai, such as Thai food, dance, architecture, music, and manners.

Cost of living is not a cultural trait.

Also, do you think Thai people should be proud of the fact that their country is poor and that there are desperate women which makes you love Thailand? Would you walk up to a Thai and tell them this to your face?

[NeverSure]

[sirineou]

Logical fallacy of this thread

Nobody is saying any of the things you say they are saying,

Some people say ONE of the things they like about Thailand is the cost of living, or the women. But I am sure people like Thailand for many many reasons

[krisb]

I don't know what to say to that.

[saakura]

I do not agree that there are "poor desperate women". These are girls from the lower economic strata (with consequently poor education) who, with the sanction of the society they live in, pair up with elderly westerners many of who may be in the same level back home but are elevated to a much higher social status when they arrive here. These girls can very easily find work suited to their education and experience and then work their way up by learning part time or distance education etc if they choose to.

[NanLaew]

The things that Platinum Member's constantly come up with these days...

[thaibeachlovers]

Many of you are constantly saying that you love Thailand because it is cheap and because there are poor desperate women but that is not actually Thailand.

Who says poor desperate women? Most of them are very well off and hardly desperate if they work in bars and have holidays with farangs.

"Thailand" is things that are culturally Thai, such as Thai food, dance, architecture, music, and manners.

The bar culture is just as much part of modern Thailand culture as are temples.Don't forget prostitution has gone on in Siam for centuries.

Cost of living is not a cultural trait.

What has culture got to do with it? Not many expats stay for the temples.

Also, do you think Thai people should be proud of the fact that their country is poor and that there are desperate women which makes you love Thailand? Would you walk up to a Thai and tell them this to your face?

IMO Thailand is a rich country with a lot of poor people in it, not a poor country with a few rich people in it .

While there may be some desperate women, most are not. Perhaps you need to get out and meet some real Thai women.

[willyumiii]

Drinking again, are we?

[kaorop]

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[kaorop]

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[MrJohnson]

Upward economic mobility takes many forms. 'Marrying up' is just one if them and is a phenomena not confined to Thailand. The rest of the OP I am yet to decipher.

[Seastallion]

Logical Fallacy would be....

"Many of you are constantly saying that you love Thailand because it is cheap and because there are poor desperate women but that is not actually Thailand."

Followed by the argument, "Cost of living is not a cultural trait."

What has cultural traits got to do with loving Thailand?

The weather is not a cultural trait, either, and I'm sure some people love Thailand for the weather.

[HeijoshinCool]

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Thailand" is things that are culturally Thai, such as Thai food, dance, architecture, music, and manners.

Manners?

Really?

My first months in Thailand, by western reflex expecting the door to be held open by the person in front of me, resulted in numerous nose jobs.

[bamnutsak]

"Many of you are constantly saying..."

followed by just about any phrase is a fallacy.

[jspill]

I see where the OP is coming from, I can admit that I'm basically here for the low cost of living and chicks (I wouldn't say they're all 'desperate' or 'poor' though, many are just genuinely more friendly).

But I've had both Thai men and women 'cheer me on' in a sense, when I'd have expected them to be bit annoyed. Guys slapping me on the back for getting girls, or women saying 'yeah come live here, it's very cheap, and you can find a girlfriend' etc. They see it as a positive trait that I've identified good value for money.

That surprised me, and friend that came to visit from the UK - they'd ask me, 'don't the guys here get annoyed we're banging their girls?'

But it comes back to them just being genuinely friendly. Whereas westerners by default tend see the worst in the people, Thais tend to see the best or at least give the benefit of the doubt.

That's slowly changing as Thailand becomes more westernized though.

[Thai at Heart]

Thais seem to be very proud of their country, despite itself.

[IMA_FARANG]

In fact this is none of anyone's business, but I'll let you know some of my personal history.

I came to Thailand the first time in 1979.

By 1980 I had "hooked up" and was living with a Thai woman who was a bar girl whose Australian husband had left her broke and with 3 young children.

He went back to Australia to be with his true love......Booze.

He never gave her a cent for support.....he drank himself to death.

I was the one who got his death certificate from the Aussie policy so she could file for divorce by proving he had died.

How did he die.... the police report was clear..... he died in a pool of his own vomit when he passed out drunk in a cheap hotel room.

So it goes.

[farang000999]

Okay, this topic was a bit trollish but for myself, I really do love Thailand and it has nothing to do with the cost of living and poverty. I really can't stand the people who bleed on about how much things cost and I can't stand the "I feel like a superstar when I go to Isaan" fools.

For myself, I wish that Thailand could be a first world country with legal rights, personal freedom, free speech, gender and sexual equality, fair and just legal systems, democratic elections, police that aren't hitmen, etc. I want to live in a first world country but to be around Thai people and Thai culture.

Many on this forum and in Thailand, it is obvious that you have ego issues which is why you can't compliment Thailand without tellings us how terrible it is in your home country, while being completely obvilious to the fact that being born in your home country is why you have all these advantages in Thailand in the first place. Thailand = good, because you feel like a big shot. Back Home = bad, because you feel like a small fry.

[GuestHouse]

The OP is confusing a lie for a logical fallacy.

[jerojero]

Many of you are constantly saying? Generalize, assume, pontificate much? Do you? (Answer is YES)

[thaibeachlovers]

In fact this is none of anyone's business, but I'll let you know some of my personal history.

I came to Thailand the first time in 1979.

By 1980 I had "hooked up" and was living with a Thai woman who was a bar girl whose Australian husband had left her broke and with 3 young children.

He went back to Australia to be with his true love......Booze.

He never gave her a cent for support.....he drank himself to death.

I was the one who got his death certificate from the Aussie policy so she could file for divorce by proving he had died.

How did he die.... the police report was clear..... he died in a pool of his own vomit when he passed out drunk in a cheap hotel room.

So it goes.

Since when did one have to get "divorced" if one's spouse is deceased?

[yadongbreakfast]

Mate these poor desperate women usually have gold,land and assetts.

Go figure.

[Thai at Heart]

One might surmise that Thai culture is incompatible with a first world structure.

[MaeJoMTB]

Okay, this topic was a bit trollish but for myself, I really do love Thailand and it has nothing to do with the cost of living and poverty. I really can't stand the people who bleed on about how much things cost and I can't stand the "I feel like a superstar when I go to Isaan" fools.

So why do you love Thailand?

The cheap women are great,

But it's a dirty, dangerous and corrupt 3rd world country, where foreigners aren't really welcome.

Can't see any reason to love it as a country, without the cheap sex, I'd be living in Spain or America.

[botfly]

Climate, temples, hot women, hot wannbe women, cheep beer.

[Orac]

Okay, this topic was a bit trollish but for myself, I really do love Thailand and it has nothing to do with the cost of living and poverty. I really can't stand the people who bleed on about how much things cost and I can't stand the "I feel like a superstar when I go to Isaan" fools.

For myself, I wish that Thailand could be a first world country with legal rights, personal freedom, free speech, gender and sexual equality, fair and just legal systems, democratic elections, police that aren't hitmen, etc. I want to live in a first world country but to be around Thai people and Thai culture.

Many on this forum and in Thailand, it is obvious that you have ego issues which is why you can't compliment Thailand without tellings us how terrible it is in your home country, while being completely obvilious to the fact that being born in your home country is why you have all these advantages in Thailand in the first place. Thailand = good, because you feel like a big shot. Back Home = bad, because you feel like a small fry.

The thing is that Thai culture, unless you work for TAT, is both the good and the bad things that make Thailand different and special to those of us that live here. If Thailand had all the things you are wishing for it would cease to be the place that it is now and if you put Thai people in a first world country with all its rules/laws that they actually had to follow they would soon become just the same as everyone else.