No Green Book

[zephyr67]

I have a Vespa that came in to Thailand inside a personal shipment. I have no importation documents other than my US Title showing my name and that I bought it new in the US. Typically registration requires an invoice and registration documents. Is there any way I can make it legal either through the legitimate or grey market? To be clear I am completely willing to pay the taxes if I could just register it.

[Don Mega]

your cheapest option is to buy one that already has a book. transfer the engine number and vin to your bike then scrap the other.

Obviously this is illegal and you do so at your own risk.

[zephyr67]

Well the big issue with that is that this Vespa will go home with me at some point and it needs to be legal in the US.

[arunsakda]

I have a Vespa that came in to Thailand inside a personal shipment. I have no importation documents other than my US Title showing my name and that I bought it new in the US. Typically registration requires an invoice and registration documents. Is there any way I can make it legal either through the legitimate or grey market? To be clear I am completely willing to pay the taxes if I could just register it.

I assume you had it transferred with household items in a shipping container, did not declare, and now you are in possession of an illegally imported vehicle. Big no no. Ask around some more but the SAFEST thing to do might be to drive it downtown and walk away.

[zephyr67]

Well thanks for the pointless advice. It can go back to America eventually, it would just be nice not to have a coffee table shaped Vespa. I would appreciate helpful comments.

[arunsakda]

Sorry perhaps I did not think this through well enough, but you did not either. Can you export an illegal unregistered vehicle? Are these containers not checked by customs for stolen Vehicles and other items?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Don Mega]

Well thanks for the pointless advice. It can go back to America eventually, it would just be nice not to have a coffee table shaped Vespa. I would appreciate helpful comments.

So far the comments have been useful. you should soon realise that unless you engage in further illegal activities to sort the issue you must resign yourself to the fact you have a coffee table shaped like a vespa.

Alternatively you could smuggle the bike out of the country and then import it correctly, it will still be a very long drawn out and expensive deal to get it road registered. Infact I will go as far as saying it will most likely be cheaper to buy a new one already here.

[Rancid]

Might be worth listening to the advice given, why shoot the messenger?

[ubonjoe]

Moved to the Thailand Motor forum where you should get some better advice.

[Phatcharanan]

Well thanks for the pointless advice. It can go back to America eventually, it would just be nice not to have a coffee table shaped Vespa. I would appreciate helpful comments.

I assume you did not declare the Vespa on the shipping manifest? Just shipped everything as personal possessions?

[Thailaw]

Well thanks for the pointless advice. It can go back to America eventually, it would just be nice not to have a coffee table shaped Vespa. I would appreciate helpful comments.

So far the comments have been useful. you should soon realise that unless you engage in further illegal activities to sort the issue you must resign yourself to the fact you have a coffee table shaped like a vespa.

Alternatively you could smuggle the bike out of the country and then import it correctly, it will still be a very long drawn out and expensive deal to get it road registered. Infact I will go as far as saying it will most likely be cheaper to buy a new one already here.

Actually, a Vespa (regardless of the model or year) makes a very poor base for a coffee table. The better option is to drain all of the gas and oil out of it, hang it on your living room wall and put a frame around it -- Presto! And while my comment may not see helpful, it very likely is your best option until such time as you can send it back, and then probably in pieces.

[zephyr67]

The importation was complicated. Suffice it to say it was in my shipment but to not hold up my shipment they took it off the manifest. It does however appear on the original copy of my manifest. It was not my intention to sneak anything or do anything wrong. I am completely willing to pay the full import tax. The moving company did not inform me that there would be any complication. I always imagined when it arrived here I would just be assessed. The only thing is I just can't show how it got here. It just sort of appeared. I have legal title in the U.S. And bought it new. I am trying to get a copy of the original invoice. Sarcasm aside it is just a shame. I love the machine. I probably can't afford to buy one here but if I must I will buy a Honda and use that for my time in country. In the meantime drive it around the moo baan.

[KhunBENQ]

This "moving company" should be banned from doing business.

Ask a respectable mover what they say about shipping vehicles to Thailand

As far a I know the import tax for motorcycles is 95% of some value based on new price and age.

What else could you do than turn in to customs?

But you risk confiscation, scraping of the vehicle and a hefty punishment.

Enjoy driving in the mooban and don't get caught.

Even in upcountry/district town they caught a farang with "missing green book".

[bristolgeoff]

no green book you have a issue,unless you can get someone to sort it

[stevenl]

Go to your local dlt and ask them for advice. They're very reasonable.

[Don Mega]

Well thanks for the pointless advice. It can go back to America eventually, it would just be nice not to have a coffee table shaped Vespa. I would appreciate helpful comments.

So far the comments have been useful. you should soon realise that unless you engage in further illegal activities to sort the issue you must resign yourself to the fact you have a coffee table shaped like a vespa.

Alternatively you could smuggle the bike out of the country and then import it correctly, it will still be a very long drawn out and expensive deal to get it road registered. Infact I will go as far as saying it will most likely be cheaper to buy a new one already here.

Actually, a Vespa (regardless of the model or year) makes a very poor base for a coffee table. The better option is to drain all of the gas and oil out of it, hang it on your living room wall and put a frame around it -- Presto! And while my comment may not see helpful, it very likely is your best option until such time as you can send it back, and then probably in pieces.

Actually yes that raises a good point. without proof of ownership in Thailand (green book) the bike will not be allowed to be exported..... looks like in pieces it will be.

[DILLIGAD]

Did you read ANY info online about importing vehicles into Thailand. If you did, the answers would all say the same.

[Lancashirelad]

I know of an Australian sports car imported from the UK some years ago that is in exactly the same position, I've asked, on behalf of the owner, about the situation here before but not got anywhere.

[casualbiker]

Zephyr67 have a word with AlfGarnet. He has a vintage Vespas for sale c/w greenbook