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Standard visa conditions in Thailand

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Currently on a retirement O/A visa. Just wondering should I have an issue in the future or the exchange rate not favourable to bring in the 800k THB, what are my options?

What do people living here under 50 normally do?

From what I understand a standard 3 month visa but you have to leave the country and return every 3 months?

Can someone tell me the cost of the visa and is it a simple walk out walk in thing as far as leaving the country? I read somewhere the army were now insisting people were out of the country for at least 3 days. Any help appreciated

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If you think that exchange rate will go against you (while nobody can know), you can exchange the money now. If you have a yearly income you can combine it with funds to reach Bt 800,000. For examples with a pesions of Bt 65,000 a month you do not need any funds deposited.

People under 50 do not have the option for retirement extensions so they will have to use tourist visa, or work, or be married, etc.

Cost of toursit visa is about bt 1,000 per entry. Non-immigrant visa Bt 2,000 single entry, 5,000 multiple. Note these are visa no extnesion.

All extensions cost Bt 1,900.

When one does a border hop for immigration reasons there is no minimum time to re-enter, can do that immediately.

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Thank you. For clarity....I guess it would be a non immigrant visa I would need. Is that for 3 months? Is it a difficult process applying and extending?

Can u extend indefinitely?

Thanks again

Thank you. For clarity....I guess it would be a non immigrant visa I would need. Is that for 3 months? Is it a difficult process applying and extending?

Can u extend indefinitely?

Non-immigrant 'O' visa can be single entry or multiple-entry with 12 months validity. Each entry 90 days.

If visa denoted with 'A', then each entry is for 1 year.

Not difficult to obtain if one meets the requisites, these can vary from a consulate to another.

Extensions can be had indefinitely as long requirements are meet.

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Sorry. Say my retirement visa was going to expire....can I apply in Thailand for the non immigrant visa?

I take it a tourist visa is only 1 month?

Doing a visa hop at the end of the 3 months, do I need to apply for extension before leaving the kingdom or is it renewed and applied for wen returning through the border?

Sorry. Say my retirement visa was going to expire....can I apply in Thailand for the non immigrant visa?

I take it a tourist visa is only 1 month?

Doing a visa hop at the end of the 3 months, do I need to apply for extension before leaving the kingdom or is it renewed and applied for wen returning through the border?

You can apply for an extension of stay within the last 30 days of your permitted stay. Note that you can make another entry on or before the validity date printed on you non-imm OA visa, that will allow you one more year in country.

Tourist visa entry is 60 days entry, extendable fo 30 more.

When doing border hops you do not need an extension, if you can obtain an extension you do not need to do a border hop, just pay Bt 1,900 at immigration office.

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Yes aware of the extra year thing. Going to Nam next month which will give me another year.

So with the standard 3 month visa you apply for an extension or simply apply for another visa? What do most people (under 50) do to stay here long term

So with the standard 3 month visa you apply for an extension or simply apply for another visa? What do most people (under 50) do to stay here long term

If one meets the requirements then would normally apply for an extension. Otherwise has to leave country for a new visa.

I answered your other question above:

People under 50 do not have the option for retirement extensions so they will have to use tourist visa, or work, or be married, etc.

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Sorry...The bit I'm confused about apart from work or marriage visas is what sort of visa would a single person under 50 coming here to live get? A tourist visa or non immigrant visa?

Sorry...The bit I'm confused about apart from work or marriage visas is what sort of visa would a single person under 50 coming here to live get? A tourist visa or non immigrant visa?

Normally a tourist visa, or visa exempt. Non-immigrant visa has requirement as mentioned before, like having Thai relative, a job studying in Thailand, etc.

There is also an Elite Visa that starts at Bt 500,000 for five years stay. No requirements beside paying up.

You can browse the forum about all these subjects that are discussed in countless threads.

OP it can be of some value if you google and read and learn about the different existing VISAS as much as possible. You can find them here if you like..... I think it gets a better understanding if you do that and learn them...

http://www.thaiembassy.se/en/visa/types-of-visa

This link is from the Stockholm thai embassy, but you can see the rules and laws and what these different VISAS includes and demands...... But remember as PAS were saying..... different embassies - different demands some times.... So talk to the thai embassy of you choice....

Good luck

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Kenny are you married to a Thai?

You are currently on a Non Imm O-A Visa (presumably issued in your home Country) based on retirement, but those are usually only issued to people over 50, or married to a Thai.

As your under 50, I assume it was issued because your married to a Thai?

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No not married and I'm 52. Just a standard o/a retirement visa.

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Is there any benefit to marrying a thai lady or having a child or both re visa? Lower requirement for 800k baht in the bank etc? Possible perm residency?

Requirements for annual extensions of stay if you have a Thai Wife.

400,000 Baht in the bank or 40,000 Monthly income.

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So. ....my original question. A normal person wanting to come here to live. Doesn't have thai wife, employment here, not studying etc. What do they do?

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Requirements for annual extensions of stay if you have a Thai Wife.

400,000 Baht in the bank or 40,000 Monthly income.

So if I was married and had a child....would I stay on my O/A visa with the condition of only needing 400k in the bank or would I apply for a marriage visa?

So. ....my original question. A normal person wanting to come here to live. Doesn't have thai wife, employment here, not studying etc. What do they do?

For those over the age of 50 there is provision for retirement if requirements can be met.

In the case of people such as you describe, who are under 50, there is no means of staying long term other than by the serial use of tourist visa.

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So. ....my original question. A normal person wanting to come here to live. Doesn't have thai wife, employment here, not studying etc. What do they do?

For those over the age of 50 there is provision for retirement if requirements can be met.

In the case of people such as you describe, who are under 50, there is no means of staying long term other than by the serial use of tourist visa.

Do they allow u to repeatedly stay on a tourist visa?

Is it 2 months or 3 months?

When u do Ur hops do you renew or extend at the border before u come back in or apply before leaving?

Yes there are those under 50 who do stay indefinitely in Thailand on Tourist Visas.

A double entry is valid for 60 days each entry (G7 Countries) and can be extended 30 days at local Immigration.

You have to exit the Country every 60 days and then again after 150 days to get a new Visa.

There have been recent reports of Embassies, Consulates limiting the issue of Tourist Visa to 4.

You then have to go to a different Embassy, Consulate.

Tourist Visas are not intended to be used for long term stays.

For under 50's the Elite card is an option, but expensive.

There is no such thing as a Marriage or Retirement Visa.

You can get a Non Imm O or O-A Visa for the purpose of long stay with the intention of retirement or marriage (subject to age and finance requirements)

From these Visas, you can get an extension of your permission to stay, based on marriage or retirement.

You are not extending the Visa, that expires, but you are extending the permission to stay that the original Visa granted you.

For yourself, you can get an extension of stay based on retirement with 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account, or an income of 65,000 baht per month, or a combination of the two to meet the requirement.

In theory you then only need to visit Immigration once a year to renew your extension. 90 day reports can be made online or by post. An extension based on retirement is completed on the day at Immigration.

If your married the financial requirement is less, 400,000 baht or 40,000 baht monthly income. You cannot use a combination of funds for this type of extension. It also requires two visits to Immigration, it cannot be completed on the day.

If you are 50years old or more you can get a retirement extension for a at your local immigration if you have the following:

  • 800 K Thai Baht in a Thai Bank in your name OR
  • a monthly income of 65, 000 baht OR
  • a combination of the two sources above that will give you and ANNUAL income of 800,000 Baht or more.

You may need to obtain a statement from your countries embassy that you have the required income.

Different countries have different rules on what they require at that countries embassy to get such a proof of income statement.

If you have enough funds to start a bank account your Thai Bank can generate a letter that is acceptable to your local immigration to show you have the required funds on deposit.

If you use the Bank method above, you will need to have the funds on deposit for 60 days prior to your first application for this retirement extension.

You can renew this retirement extension yearly..... you will need to show the same funds each year for a retirement extension renewal each year.

But since you already have an O-A retirement VISA you should have received a "permitted to stay stamp" in your passport for one year when you entered Thailand your first time.

That "permitted to stay" stamp covers your first year stay in Thailand.

In that first year with your O-A visa each time you exit and return to Thailand you will get another 1 year "permitted to stay stamp" when you re-enter Thailand

That is the big advantage of the O-A visa you obtained before you came to Thailand.

Basically the O-A visa is good for a two year stay in Thailand if used properly.

After that You can do the retirement extension stuff I mentioned above if you have the funds. required.

Note: you do not mention your age.....I am assuming you are over 50 years of age however, because in the U.S. an O-A

retirement visa will not be issued unless you are over 50 years of age.

Edited by IMA_FARANG

Kenny are you married to a Thai?

You are currently on a Non Imm O-A Visa (presumably issued in your home Country) based on retirement, but those are usually only issued to people over 50, or married to a Thai.

As your under 50, I assume it was issued because your married to a Thai?

Non-Imm OA are only issued to those basing it on retirement and over 50, not for married people.

Yes there are those under 50 who do stay indefinitely in Thailand on Tourist Visas.

A double entry is valid for 60 days each entry (G7 Countries) and can be extended 30 days at local Immigration.

You have to exit the Country every 60 days and then again after 150 days to get a new Visa.

There have been recent reports of Embassies, Consulates limiting the issue of Tourist Visa to 4.

You then have to go to a different Embassy, Consulate.

Tourist Visas are not intended to be used for long term stays.

For under 50's the Elite card is an option, but expensive.

There is no such thing as a Marriage or Retirement Visa.

You can get a Non Imm O or O-A Visa for the purpose of long stay with the intention of retirement or marriage (subject to age and finance requirements)

From these Visas, you can get an extension of your permission to stay, based on marriage or retirement.

You are not extending the Visa, that expires, but you are extending the permission to stay that the original Visa granted you.

For yourself, you can get an extension of stay based on retirement with 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account, or an income of 65,000 baht per month, or a combination of the two to meet the requirement.

In theory you then only need to visit Immigration once a year to renew your extension. 90 day reports can be made online or by post. An extension based on retirement is completed on the day at Immigration.

If your married the financial requirement is less, 400,000 baht or 40,000 baht monthly income. You cannot use a combination of funds for this type of extension. It also requires two visits to Immigration, it cannot be completed on the day.

Everybody gets 60 days per entry with a tourist visa. (You are confusing land crossing using the visa exempt entry, which is 30 days for G7 members).

If you extend each entry, you would leave on about day 90, (checking the use before date), and go for a new visa on about day 180.

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Yes there are those under 50 who do stay indefinitely in Thailand on Tourist Visas.

A double entry is valid for 60 days each entry (G7 Countries) and can be extended 30 days at local Immigration.

You have to exit the Country every 60 days and then again after 150 days to get a new Visa.

There have been recent reports of Embassies, Consulates limiting the issue of Tourist Visa to 4.

You then have to go to a different Embassy, Consulate.

Tourist Visas are not intended to be used for long term stays.

For under 50's the Elite card is an option, but expensive.

There is no such thing as a Marriage or Retirement Visa.

You can get a Non Imm O or O-A Visa for the purpose of long stay with the intention of retirement or marriage (subject to age and finance requirements)

From these Visas, you can get an extension of your permission to stay, based on marriage or retirement.

You are not extending the Visa, that expires, but you are extending the permission to stay that the original Visa granted you.

For yourself, you can get an extension of stay based on retirement with 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account, or an income of 65,000 baht per month, or a combination of the two to meet the requirement.

In theory you then only need to visit Immigration once a year to renew your extension. 90 day reports can be made online or by post. An extension based on retirement is completed on the day at Immigration.

If your married the financial requirement is less, 400,000 baht or 40,000 baht monthly income. You cannot use a combination of funds for this type of extension. It also requires two visits to Immigration, it cannot be completed on the day.

Everybody gets 60 days per entry with a tourist visa. (You are confusing land crossing using the visa exempt entry, which is 30 days for G7 members).

If you extend each entry, you would leave on about day 90, (checking the use before date), and go for a new visa on about day 180.

Not according to the Thai Embassy.

http://www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/45

Tourist Visas.

PERIOD OF STAY

Upon arrival, travellers with this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days or 60 days.

Nationals of countries which are on Thailand’s Tourist Visa Exemption list or have bilateral agreements on visa exemption with Thailand will be permitted to stay for a period of not exceeding 60 days. Nationals from other countries who hold a tourist visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days.

Typo error, should have been 180 days not 150 (cheers, spellcheck doesn't catch those errors).

Kenny are you married to a Thai?

You are currently on a Non Imm O-A Visa (presumably issued in your home Country) based on retirement, but those are usually only issued to people over 50, or married to a Thai.

As your under 50, I assume it was issued because your married to a Thai?

Non-Imm OA are only issued to those basing it on retirement and over 50, not for married people.

Totally agree that's what it states on websites.

I had this argument in the UK. They would only issue me a single entry Non Imm O because I wasn't in receipt of a State Pension.

I think they were wrong and your correct bigt, but you can't argue with bureaucrats.

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I am.over 50, not married and currently am in the final months of my first year O/A visa. Marriage may be on the cards in the future. I am travelling to Vietnam in my last month for a holiday and for the purpose of getting the extra year. Do I need to do anything special before I leave (re entry permit, exit permit etc) or just getting the stamp on re entry automatically renews the extra year?

Nothing special is required.

Make sure you re-enter Thailand on or before the "enter before" date which is on the visa.

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Enter before date? I thought it was 1 year after the visa issue date?

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Oh, the enter before date is 1 year after the issue date :-) yep, will be out and back in 2 weeks before enter before date

Have a look at your visa the "enter before" date should be clearly visible.That date is also the expiry date of the visa.

Worth a check I would suggest.

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