ggt Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thrilled to find that the Mountain would NOT be named Mount Obama...
Jingthing Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thrilled to find that the Mountain would NOT be named Mount Obama... No need after he gets added to Mt. Rushmore.
Publicus Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thrilled to find that the Mountain would NOT be named Mount Obama... No need after he gets added to Mt. Rushmore. Message-from-Mt-Rushmore.jpg The view from the Canadian side. Mt Obama?!? Only someone in a lunar orbiter could hear anything like that crackle over their radio or their mobile.
ggt Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thrilled to find that the Mountain would NOT be named Mount Obama... No need after he gets added to Mt. Rushmore. Message-from-Mt-Rushmore.jpg The view from the Canadian side. Mt Obama?!? Only someone in a lunar orbiter could hear anything like that crackle over their radio or their mobile. Good to hear from you again old friend...
willyumiii Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 This is a good thing. It has always been "Denali". White guys bought Alaska and decided to name it after a fat, white presidential candidate. It was named after McKinley in the 1800s as a political move, by republicans, when he was running for the office of president. It would be like naming a mountain after Trump now in hopes of getting more votes! He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him. The name "Denali" means " The great one" McKinley was great, but in size only...he was fat! The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination.
Publicus Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 This is a good thing. It has always been "Denali". White guys bought Alaska and decided to name it after a fat, white presidential candidate. It was named after McKinley in the 1800s as a political move, by republicans, when he was running for the office of president. It would be like naming a mountain after Trump now in hopes of getting more votes! He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him. The name "Denali" means " The great one" McKinley was great, but in size only...he was fat! The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination. 453px-Presidents_McKinley.jpg The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination. Well done and thx for that. One detail I can't quite make out is whether the photo is before or after. Mount McKinley A farce of history is over, righted, corrected.
Thakkar Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 This is another nefarious Obama plot to give dyslexics a joke they can use. Dyslexics who never understood the river in Egypt joke can now say, "De Nali is not just a mountain in Alaska." T
otherstuff1957 Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I've heard it referred to as Denali for decades. I guess it was just never changed officially.
chuckd Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 This is a good thing. It has always been "Denali". White guys bought Alaska and decided to name it after a fat, white presidential candidate. It was named after McKinley in the 1800s as a political move, by republicans, when he was running for the office of president. It would be like naming a mountain after Trump now in hopes of getting more votes! He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him. The name "Denali" means " The great one" McKinley was great, but in size only...he was fat! The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination. <snip> "He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him." You have your history a tad mixed up. McKinley was assassinated in 1901. The mountain was named after him by an act of Congress and signed into law in 1917 by President Woodrow Wilson. Wikipedia describes it this way: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The name Mount McKinley was chosen by William Dickey, a New Hampshire-born Seattleite who led four gold prospectors digging the sands of the Susitna River in June 1896. An account written on his return to the lower 48 appeared in The New York Sun on January 24, 1897, under the title Discoveries in Alaska (1896).[6][7] Dickey wrote, "We named our great peak Mount McKinley, after William McKinley of Ohio, who had been nominated for the Presidency, and that fact was the first news we received on our way out of that wonderful wilderness."[7][6] By most accounts, the naming was politically driven; Dickey had met many silver miners who zealously promoted Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan's ideal of a silver standard, inspiring him to retaliate by naming the mountain after a strong proponent of the gold standard.[7] In the 1900 report of the US Geological Survey (USGS), Josiah Edward Spurr refers to "the giant mountain variously known to Americans as Mount Allen, Mount McKinley, or Bulshaia, the latter being a corruption of the Russian adjective meaning big".[8] The 1900 report otherwise calls it Mount McKinley,[8] as does the 1911 USGS report The Mount McKinley Region, Alaska.[9] McKinley was assassinated early in his second term, shot by Leon Czolgosz on September 6, 1901, and dying of his wounds on September 14. This led to sentiment favoring commemoration of his memory. The Federal government officially adopted the name Mount McKinley in 1917 when Congress passed and President Woodrow Wilson signed into law "An Act to establish the Mount McKinley National Park in the territory of Alaska", which singled out the area in the Mount McKinley region.[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now might be a good time to point out this is just another Executive Order that can be removed by any succeeding President.
Scott Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Off-topic posts have been removed along with replies. Please stay on the topic. It's about the name of a mountain being changed. Please stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
slipperylobster Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Lets give it all back to the Natives...we pretty much broke it. Perhaps they can fix it back up.
willyumiii Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 This is a good thing. It has always been "Denali". White guys bought Alaska and decided to name it after a fat, white presidential candidate. It was named after McKinley in the 1800s as a political move, by republicans, when he was running for the office of president. It would be like naming a mountain after Trump now in hopes of getting more votes! He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him. The name "Denali" means " The great one" McKinley was great, but in size only...he was fat! The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination. <snip> "He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him." You have your history a tad mixed up. McKinley was assassinated in 1901. The mountain was named after him by an act of Congress and signed into law in 1917 by President Woodrow Wilson. Wikipedia describes it this way: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The name Mount McKinley was chosen by William Dickey, a New Hampshire-born Seattleite who led four gold prospectors digging the sands of the Susitna River in June 1896. An account written on his return to the lower 48 appeared in The New York Sun on January 24, 1897, under the title Discoveries in Alaska (1896).[6][7] Dickey wrote, "We named our great peak Mount McKinley, after William McKinley of Ohio, who had been nominated for the Presidency, and that fact was the first news we received on our way out of that wonderful wilderness."[7][6] By most accounts, the naming was politically driven; Dickey had met many silver miners who zealously promoted Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan's ideal of a silver standard, inspiring him to retaliate by naming the mountain after a strong proponent of the gold standard.[7] In the 1900 report of the US Geological Survey (USGS), Josiah Edward Spurr refers to "the giant mountain variously known to Americans as Mount Allen, Mount McKinley, or Bulshaia, the latter being a corruption of the Russian adjective meaning big".[8] The 1900 report otherwise calls it Mount McKinley,[8] as does the 1911 USGS report The Mount McKinley Region, Alaska.[9] McKinley was assassinated early in his second term, shot by Leon Czolgosz on September 6, 1901, and dying of his wounds on September 14. This led to sentiment favoring commemoration of his memory. The Federal government officially adopted the name Mount McKinley in 1917 when Congress passed and President Woodrow Wilson signed into law "An Act to establish the Mount McKinley National Park in the territory of Alaska", which singled out the area in the Mount McKinley region.[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now might be a good time to point out this is just another Executive Order that can be removed by any succeeding President. A quote from your quote of Wikipedia. The name Mount McKinley was chosen by William Dickey, a New Hampshire-born Seattleite who led four gold prospectors digging the sands of the Susitna River in June 1896. An account written on his return to the contiguous United States appeared in The New York Sun on January 24, 1897, under the titleDiscoveries in Alaska (1896).[7][8] Dickey wrote, "We named our great peak Mount McKinley, after William McKinley of Ohio, who had been nominated for the Presidency, and that fact was the first news we received on our way out of that wonderful wilderness."[8][7] By most accounts, the naming was politically driven; Dickey had met many silver miners who zealously promoted Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan's ideal of a silver standard, inspiring him to retaliate by naming the mountain after a strong proponent of the gold standard.[8]
bendejo Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Houston airport next??? And a few aircraft carriers due for a new name... You mean George Bush International Airport? No, he wouldn't dare change the name from what it has been since the 19th century.
bendejo Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I was thrilled to find that the Mountain would NOT be named Mount Obama... No need after he gets added to Mt. Rushmore. But all those bee-hinds are white!
Publicus Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 This is a good thing. It has always been "Denali". White guys bought Alaska and decided to name it after a fat, white presidential candidate. It was named after McKinley in the 1800s as a political move, by republicans, when he was running for the office of president. It would be like naming a mountain after Trump now in hopes of getting more votes! He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him. The name "Denali" means " The great one" McKinley was great, but in size only...he was fat! The thing he is best known for in history is his assassination. <snip> "He had not served as president yet and had never had anything to do with the mountain or Alaska when it was named after him." You have your history a tad mixed up. McKinley was assassinated in 1901. The mountain was named after him by an act of Congress and signed into law in 1917 by President Woodrow Wilson. Wikipedia describes it this way: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The name Mount McKinley was chosen by William Dickey, a New Hampshire-born Seattleite who led four gold prospectors digging the sands of the Susitna River in June 1896. An account written on his return to the lower 48 appeared in The New York Sun on January 24, 1897, under the title Discoveries in Alaska (1896).[6][7] Dickey wrote, "We named our great peak Mount McKinley, after William McKinley of Ohio, who had been nominated for the Presidency, and that fact was the first news we received on our way out of that wonderful wilderness."[7][6] By most accounts, the naming was politically driven; Dickey had met many silver miners who zealously promoted Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan's ideal of a silver standard, inspiring him to retaliate by naming the mountain after a strong proponent of the gold standard.[7] In the 1900 report of the US Geological Survey (USGS), Josiah Edward Spurr refers to "the giant mountain variously known to Americans as Mount Allen, Mount McKinley, or Bulshaia, the latter being a corruption of the Russian adjective meaning big".[8] The 1900 report otherwise calls it Mount McKinley,[8] as does the 1911 USGS report The Mount McKinley Region, Alaska.[9] McKinley was assassinated early in his second term, shot by Leon Czolgosz on September 6, 1901, and dying of his wounds on September 14. This led to sentiment favoring commemoration of his memory. The Federal government officially adopted the name Mount McKinley in 1917 when Congress passed and President Woodrow Wilson signed into law "An Act to establish the Mount McKinley National Park in the territory of Alaska", which singled out the area in the Mount McKinley region.[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now might be a good time to point out this is just another Executive Order that can be removed by any succeeding President. Lets get some meaty facts out on the table instead of all the fat and grease we're being presented with. The Secretary of the Interior issued the order consistent with the president's constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws and the Constitution of the USA. WASHINGTON, D.C. - President Barack Obama is using a clause in a 1947 law that created the U.S. Board on Geographic Names to strip former President William McKinley's name from North America's tallest mountain peak and instead call it by its traditional Native American name: Denali. http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/08/president_obama_invokes_1947_l.html By Sally Jewell, Secretary of the Interior, August 28, 2015 Order No. 3337 504comments Subject: Change of the Name of Mount McKinley to Denali Purpose. The purpose of this Order is to change the name of Mount McKinley to Denali. Background. On March 11, 1975, Governor Jay S. Hammond of the State of Alaska, in furtherance of a resolution passed by the Alaska State Legislature, formally requested that the Secretary of the Interior direct the United States Board on Geographic Names (Board) to change the name of "Mount McKinley" to "Denali." Denali is a local Athabascan name for the mountain, which is the highest in North America and is located entirely within Denali National Park and Preserve, Alaska. The mountain was originally named after President William McKinley of Ohio, but President McKinley never visited, nor did he have any significant historical connection to, the mountain or to Alaska. The requested name change is consistent with the Board's substantive policies and is supported by the State of Alaska. While the Board does have a policy of deferring action when a matter is being considered by Congress, contradictory bills on this issue have been proposed by various members of Congress since the late 1970s. Under 43 U.S.C. §§ 364-364f, the Secretary of the Interior may take action in matters "wherein the Board does not act within a reasonable time." The statute also directs the Secretary to "promulgate in the name of the Board ... decisions with respect to geographic names and principles of geographic nomenclature and orthography." Authority. The authority for this Order is 43 U.S.C. §§ 364-364f. Renaming of Mount McKinley. This Order changes the name of Mount McKinley in the State of Alaska to Denali. Implementation. The Board is responsible for following its usual procedures to immediately implement this name change, including changing the mountain's name in the Board's Geographic Names Information System and notifying all interested parties of the name change. Expiration Date. This Order is effective immediately and will remain in effect until it is amended, superseded, revoked, or automatically expires. This Order shall automatically expire when the Board notifies me that it has notified all interested parties, changed the name in the Board's Geographic Names Information System, and taken all other appropriate actions to implement the name change.(Emphasis added.)
Publicus Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Mount Obama in Antigua and Barbuda is 1319 feet soaring into the sky Here’s a list of some of the notable mountains named for U.S. presidents. Mountain Elevation Location Mount Lincoln 14,293 Colorado Mount Kennedy 13,944 Yukon, Canada Mount Adams 12,281 Washington Mount Jefferson 10,497 Oregon Mount Washington 6,288 New Hampshire Mount Coolidge 6,025 South Dakota Mount Adams 5,793 New Hampshire Mount Jefferson 5,712 New Hampshire Mount Theodore Roosevelt 5,676 South Dakota Mount Reagan* 5,533 New Hampshire Mount Madison 5,367 New Hampshire Mount Quincy Adams 5,348 New Hampshire Mount Lincoln 5,089 New Hampshire Mount Eisenhower 4,780 New Hampshire Mount Pierce 4,310 New Hampshire Eisenhower Mountain 1,980 California Mount Obama 1,319 Antigua and Barbuda *Approved by state. Rejected by the United States Board on Geographic Names. Sources: Geographic Names Information System, AP
Humphrey Bear Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 As a non-American ( ) may I offer the practical solution to this argument - give the whole <deleted> place back to the Russians, from whom you virtually stole it in the first place!!
lifeincnx Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I'm just glad it wasn't Warren Harding Peak. Otherwise it might have been changed to Mount Jerry.
Publicus Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 As a non-American ( ) may I offer the practical solution to this argument - give the whole <deleted> place back to the Russians, from whom you virtually stole it in the first place!! The art of the deal The Alaska Purchase comes in at $12.28 per square mile (586,412 square miles for $7,200,000), and the Louisiana Purchase comes in at $18.09 per square mile (828,800 square miles for $15,000,000). The Florida Purchase in 1819 was for $5 million on the books but was in fact a steal from Spain as the US paid nothing to Madrid. It was President Lincoln's SecState Wm Seward who after the Civil War pulled off the Alaska Purchase in what many people then called "Seward's Folly." The ribbing continued into the 20th century before Alaska became a state by referring to the Big Icebox. Some people might appreciate knowing the US purchased the vast amount of the land it acquired, most notably the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 from the clueless Emperor Napolean Bonaparte. President Thomas Jefferson correctly saw an alliance between France and Spain with the design to assert their control over the lands, to include Spanish possession of what later became Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada. The Russians had already been aced out of California by the Spanish. Pres. Jefferson's Louisiana Purchase yielded 15 states from the Mississippi River west to the Rocky Mountains and from the Gulf of Mexico north to Canada. Alaska's most notable products appear to be oil, Sarah Palin, and gas. All the same, given you are a "non-American" I invite you to provide the name of your country so we can make an offer you can't refuse. A deal to remember.
Credo Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Rather than buying any of those little countries across the pond, I think a much better deal can be gotten from Russia. They need the money and with climate change, it will probably be tropical in the future. Also, we won't have all those pesky immigrants. In the meantime, the original and proper name of the mountain has been restored. Good job.
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