I just got my work permit, and then went to apply for a work visa

[dean008]

Immigration said they cannot convert my non Imm o visa, I would have to leave the country and convert a tourist visa. I am told the rules have changed is that true. I only ask as my employer is wanting me to go out of the country at my expense despite it seemingly being there mistake

Thanks in advance

[dean008]

Sorry, they said I would have to leave the country, return with a visa waiver and then apply. They say it's a new rule and in the past non Imm O visas could be converted to the ones which allow you to work. I suspect they are not being quite truthful. Ie saving face, can anyone confirm, if the rules about this recently changed.

Thanks

[Soutpeel]

I am confused on what your asking typically you need to be on a B visa or O marriage visa to be issued the WP

There is no visa which allows you to work

[ubonjoe]

Non immigrant visa classes cannot be changed or converted.

Normally you should be able to apply for an extension of stay based upon working with a non-o visa since you already have the work permit.

What is your non-o based upon?

Since you already have a work permit it would be best to go out for a single entry non-b visa rather than getting a tourist visa and then attempting to change it to a non immigrant visa.

[dean008]

Thank you, I was in a bit of a hurry when writing this and a little annoyed as my Employer said she was correct and you used to be able to convert a Non-imm Category 0, but the rules have just changed and so now I have to leave the country at my expense in order to convert it.

Its not a great deal of money, but she left everything until the last minute again, and some time ago because of her failings and leaving things until the last minute I had a similar problem.

So as I understand it from here you have never been able to convert an non imm cat 0 visa to a working visa at Cheang Wattana?

Original visa was based on marriage (1 year, multi entry 90 day at a time)

Thank you, next time I will post with a bit more time and carful consideration

Non immigrant visa classes cannot be changed or converted.

Normally you should be able to apply for an extension of stay based upon working with a non-o visa since you already have the work permit.

What is your non-o based upon?

Since you already have a work permit it would be best to go out for a single entry non-b visa rather than getting a tourist visa and then attempting to change it to a non immigrant visa.

[ubonjoe]

It could be that you were just asking to do the wrong thing. Their is no visa conversion possible. It is possible to apply for an extension based upon working with your non-o visa entry.

You also could continue to work with your 90 day non-o visa entries. You could also apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage if your salary is 40k baht or more by showing your work permit and tax payment receipts.

[FritsSikkink]

Thank you, I was in a bit of a hurry when writing this and a little annoyed as my Employer said she was correct and you used to be able to convert a Non-imm Category 0, but the rules have just changed and so now I have to leave the country at my expense in order to convert it.

Its not a great deal of money, but she left everything until the last minute again, and some time ago because of her failings and leaving things until the last minute I had a similar problem.

So as I understand it from here you have never been able to convert an non imm cat 0 visa to a working visa at Cheang Wattana?

Original visa was based on marriage (1 year, multi entry 90 day at a time)

Thank you, next time I will post with a bit more time and carful consideration

Non immigrant visa classes cannot be changed or converted.

Normally you should be able to apply for an extension of stay based upon working with a non-o visa since you already have the work permit.

What is your non-o based upon?

Since you already have a work permit it would be best to go out for a single entry non-b visa rather than getting a tourist visa and then attempting to change it to a non immigrant visa.

you blame your employer but in the end you are the only one responsible for getting the right visa.

[dean008]

My contract says they are responsible for arranging the visa and work permit

Thank you, I was in a bit of a hurry when writing this and a little annoyed as my Employer said she was correct and you used to be able to convert a Non-imm Category 0, but the rules have just changed and so now I have to leave the country at my expense in order to convert it.

Its not a great deal of money, but she left everything until the last minute again, and some time ago because of her failings and leaving things until the last minute I had a similar problem.

So as I understand it from here you have never been able to convert an non imm cat 0 visa to a working visa at Cheang Wattana?
Original visa was based on marriage (1 year, multi entry 90 day at a time)

Thank you, next time I will post with a bit more time and carful consideration

Non immigrant visa classes cannot be changed or converted.


Normally you should be able to apply for an extension of stay based upon working with a non-o visa since you already have the work permit.
What is your non-o based upon?
Since you already have a work permit it would be best to go out for a single entry non-b visa rather than getting a tourist visa and then attempting to change it to a non immigrant visa.

you blame your employer but in the end you are the only one responsible for getting the right visa.

[FritsSikkink]

My contract says they are responsible for arranging the visa and work permit

Thank you, I was in a bit of a hurry when writing this and a little annoyed as my Employer said she was correct and you used to be able to convert a Non-imm Category 0, but the rules have just changed and so now I have to leave the country at my expense in order to convert it.

Its not a great deal of money, but she left everything until the last minute again, and some time ago because of her failings and leaving things until the last minute I had a similar problem.

So as I understand it from here you have never been able to convert an non imm cat 0 visa to a working visa at Cheang Wattana?

Original visa was based on marriage (1 year, multi entry 90 day at a time)

Thank you, next time I will post with a bit more time and carful consideration

Non immigrant visa classes cannot be changed or converted.

Normally you should be able to apply for an extension of stay based upon working with a non-o visa since you already have the work permit.

What is your non-o based upon?

Since you already have a work permit it would be best to go out for a single entry non-b visa rather than getting a tourist visa and then attempting to change it to a non immigrant visa.

you blame your employer but in the end you are the only one responsible for getting the right visa.

your contract can say anything. they will support / pay for the cost of a visa but in the eyes of immigration you are responsible

[AlQaholic]

Listen to UbonJoe. There is no such thing as a work visa. You should be able to obtain an extension of stay based on your work permit.

[mrwebb8825]

A couple of things need clarifying: If you have a Non-O permission to visit the wife visa you are not allowed to work. If you have a Non-O Marriage visa/extention you are allowed to work and do not need to change it to a Non-B. If you have a Non-O visa/extention based on retirement, you are not allowed to work. If you have any type of Tourist Visa you are not allowed to work.

Which do you have?

The Non-O Permission to visit wife visa can be converted into a Non-O Marriage visa/extention in country.

A Tourist Visa can be converted to a Non-B visa in country as long as you have more that 15 (?) days left.

A Tourist Visa can be converted to a Non-O Marriage Visa in country as long as you have 30 (?) days left.

UdonJoe would be the best 1 to ask but I'm about 95% sure I'm correct.

[natway09]

I must admit bit surprised they actually gave you the work permit without sighting your B class visa.

Never happened to me in 24 years, or have things slackened up?

[Soutpeel]

I must admit bit surprised they actually gave you the work permit without sighting your B class visa.

Never happened to me in 24 years, or have things slackened up?

I think it's the OP wording the WP may be ready for collection you don't need a B to apply for a WP but you need a B etc to be issued it and I think this is what he is going on about

[digitalchromakey]

Is the OP by any chance a Teacher?

[ubonjoe]

There is no problem getting a work permit and working with just a 90 day entry from a non-o visa based upon marriage. If is possible to do it with a multiple entry non-o visa. It does not have to be an extension of stay based upon marriage.

A non-b visa entry is not required to have a work permit issued. Lots of people have them with a non-o visa based upon marriage.

[kovaltech]

OP, no need fro changing your visa type, you have a work permit and a legal visa status in Thailand , Non O immigrant, based on Mariage.

Just continue on this visa, with the 90 days border hop, after expiring, just go to apply for an other , same kind or for an exstension of stay, whatever is more convenient for you.

Unless you current visa states that employments is prohibited of course. ;-)

[kovaltech]

A couple of things need clarifying: If you have a Non-O permission to visit the wife visa you are not allowed to work. If you have a Non-O Marriage visa/extention you are allowed to work and do not need to change it to a Non-B. If you have a Non-O visa/extention based on retirement, you are not allowed to work. If you have any type of Tourist Visa you are not allowed to work.

Which do you have?

The Non-O Permission to visit wife visa can be converted into a Non-O Marriage visa/extention in country.

A Tourist Visa can be converted to a Non-B visa in country as long as you have more that 15 (?) days left.

A Tourist Visa can be converted to a Non-O Marriage Visa in country as long as you have 30 (?) days left.

UdonJoe would be the best 1 to ask but I'm about 95% sure I'm correct.

If you have a valid non O for family, be it wife or children, and a WP... Then you are allowed to work. unless you have a sticker that states "employment prohibited"...

[timendres]

Sorry, they said I would have to leave the country, return with a visa waiver and then apply. They say it's a new rule and in the past non Imm O visas could be converted to the ones which allow you to work. I suspect they are not being quite truthful. Ie saving face, can anyone confirm, if the rules about this recently changed.

Thanks

There is no such thing as a "Work Visa". You must have a "Non-O" visa, either based on spouse or business. Once you have the Non-O visa, you can apply for a work permit. Once you have a work permit, you are allowed "extensions" of your original (and eventually expired) visa, based on the fact that you have a work permit. Once that original visa expires, you are living here on extensions, not a visa.

For a Non-O business visa, you must apply for and acquire that visa outside of Thailand. It is not possible to obtain it within Thailand. Some have stated there is a way to get that visa inside of Thailand, and this may be true, but I do not know how it is done. Every lawyer I have ever spoken to has stated you must obtain the Non-O business visa outside the country.

[stevo2]

Sorry, they said I would have to leave the country, return with a visa waiver and then apply. They say it's a new rule and in the past non Imm O visas could be converted to the ones which allow you to work. I suspect they are not being quite truthful. Ie saving face, can anyone confirm, if the rules about this recently changed.

Thanks

There is no such thing as a "Work Visa". You must have a "Non-O" visa, either based on spouse or business. Once you have the Non-O visa, you can apply for a work permit. Once you have a work permit, you are allowed "extensions" of your original (and eventually expired) visa, based on the fact that you have a work permit. Once that original visa expires, you are living here on extensions, not a visa.

For a Non-O business visa, you must apply for and acquire that visa outside of Thailand. It is not possible to obtain it within Thailand. Some have stated there is a way to get that visa inside of Thailand, and this may be true, but I do not know how it is done. Every lawyer I have ever spoken to has stated you must obtain the Non-O business visa outside the country.

Non B(usiness).