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I’m writing this topic due to sad event of a 74 year-old farang neighbor who’s heart-broken over a 27-year-old Thai girl, despite the precautionary warnings he received. He also has a 30 year-old grand-child, back home. Unbelievable! Anyway, here goes.

Gentlemen, I concur 100% that Thailand (like the Philippines) has some of the most beautiful, most enticingly seductive womenfolk in Asia,…..to look at. However, both Thailas, and Filipinas are still female products of cultures deeply rooted in Asian traditional values. Many westerner tend to conveniently forget that.

Asian womenfolk are socialized (from birth) to serve a man, not to love him. Their “duty” is to remain steadfastly “loyal” to their family and to “serve” at the pleasure of the eldest male figure of that family unit. That kind of family solidarity is seldom found in western cultures.

Subsequently, when an Asian women becomes “seriously” involved with a westerner, it happens after permission for her to do so, is granted by that same (dominant) Elder-male figure of her family blood-line . There is always some Asian “guy” (hiding in the back-ground), e.g., a father, brother, uncle or “cousin”. And, the "permission” is typically granted only on condition that the “farang”, in question, has financially committed to provide an acceptable monthly stipend (via his girlfriend), to her family’s coffer.

Despite the limited quality level of a Thaila’s formal education, any foreigner coming to the LOS believing Thai bar-girls to be dim-witted and stupid, is due for a rude awakening. Your Thai gf is just your employee. If you're looking for a devoted "friend" in Thailand, or any place else in Asia, then go buy a dog, instead. Then the rest of your particular Asian "sojourn" will be easy.

Now, beyond the “bar-girl-baht-fine-scene”, making the mistake of first “falling” in love, and then financially investing your hard-earned life-savings into the life of a beautiful Asian “lady”, is just plain fool-hearty, without first consulty with a lawyer. If your prospective Thai GF doesn’t know how to dance the waltz, or expresses any interest in "learning how to dance the two-step (at least) with you, then walk away quickly. Otherwise she'll be nothing more than a total waste of your time, effort and money.

Making block-headed, foolish mistakes when one is a youngster, is expected. However, making those same mistakes when one is 60+ years-old, is just plain stupidity, and a pitiful tragedy.

View the attached youtube link, and best wishes:coffeecoffee1.gif -

Posted (edited)

Well......THAT was a total waste of time reading exercise....

I feel sorry for the 74 y/o but his heartbreak will go away - whereas the OP has publicly condemned himself and his thought processes.....

Devoted to a life of thoroughly wanton misery......

Edited by pgrahmm
Posted (edited)

Well......THAT was a total waste of time reading exercise....

I feel sorry for the 74 y/o but his heartbreak will go away - whereas the OP has publicly condemned himself and his thought processes.....

Devoted to a life of thoroughly wanton misery......

Ha! Apparently the shoes fit quite snugly on you sir! People living in glass houses, should never throw stones. You, sir, seem to have a penchant for that behavior (in general), on the forum. At least I'm not a paedophile expat, trying to recapture the under-developed, juvenile phases of what remains remains in my life. If you were so high and mighty "back-home", then you'd definitely not be shacking up with some "girl", who's young enough to be your grand-daugher. Shame on you, joker card. Now, if you want to continue to exchange words, on this level,, then please be my guest, on the personal message board. I'm just getting warmed-upcoffee1.gif

Edited by NativeSon360
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‘NativeSon360’….. I would agree in part what you have written, however when people set themselves up as experts on Thai culture and want to give us simple folk a lesson in living in Thailand they can’t resist telling those of us that are in a stable relationship with a Thai and having a life in Thailand outside a ‘bar beer’ just how stupid we all are.

I will concede that Thailand is a minefield when it comes to affairs of the heart, but please don’t for one minutes think you can slag off a whole nation on the actions of a few slappers and their families. I know of one girl who disowned her family because they tried to get her to ‘suck money’ from her new farang husband. My own father in law would not take ‘Sin-sod’…… As he put it; “I don’t want to sell my daughter”

You do realize it takes “two to Tango”……. Right? I suppose it's the way of things…. Old boy meets young girl, old boy thinks he is better, more powerful, clever and holds all the cards in the relationship, but ends up handing all he has to the young girl…… And it’s her fault?

I do feel sorry for your neighbour….. I hope he’s able to move on and get over her soon.

Edited by Tonto21
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‘NativeSon360’….. I would agree in part what you have written, however when people set themselves up as experts on Thai culture and want to give us simple folk a lesson in living in Thailand they can’t resist telling those of us that are in a stable relationship with a Thai and having a life in Thailand outside a ‘bar beer’ just how stupid we all are.

I will concede that Thailand is a minefield when it comes to affairs of the heart, but please don’t for one minutes think you can slag off a whole nation on the actions of a few slappers and their families. I know of one girl who disowned her family because they tried to get her to ‘suck money’ from her new farang husband. My own father in law would not take ‘Sin-sod’…… As he put it; “I don’t want to sell my daughter”

You do realize it takes “two to Tango”……. Right? I suppose it's the way of things…. Old boy meets young girl, old boy thinks he is better, more powerful, clever and holds all the cards in the relationship, but ends up handing all he has to the young girl…… And it’s her fault?

I do feel sorry for your neighbour….. I hope he’s able to move on and get over her soon.

Of course, and I totally agree with your point of view. However, I was not "Thai bashing" in the least bit. Just stating the "realities" of the way things are in Asia. I was not "fault" finding either. The blame placing yoke, lays squarely with any foreigner, who places "himself" in that position. The girl is simply trying to survive, for herself and her family, as best she can. I get that, clearly, Ok?

I did not "arrogantly" come to the LOS assuming to teach Thai people anything. In fact, I came as a humble student. And, I have definitely received an education, mostly thru observing the experiences of other foreigners. Indeed, I am "bashing"mostly on the arrogant stupidity of the foreigners, not the Thai people. The YouTube video link provided, should make that point abundantly clear.

Personally, I find Thai people to be unusually astute and a far more clever people, when compared to most westerners. Thais, also have a very keen sense of enterprise and solidarity among themselves, with all things of their established "system of things" considered.

Thank you, for your understanding. I'll pass your "best wishes" on to my neighbor, who's been more emotionally ripped-off, than financially so. Cheers, Tonto21, and best wishes wai.gif

Edited by NativeSon360
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I dont know how many guys I know or have met or know of that are in there sixties and with twenty year olds. So many of them are very happy. The wives/gf's have homes , land , rental condos......The guys golf and travel and live a life they love. They will die with a smile on there faces.......However.....I also know that many of these girls are in relationships with other men or have numerous affairs and or are robbing them blind bit by bit , year by year......after the trust is built they become the total master. Its the .....Long con............I know a guy right now selling or trying to sell his beachfront house in order to build a new place on land that she owns......in her home area. He has been with her for years.....not at all attractive. All his buddies know she is a rat. He wont ever even believe it........So with this all being said.......Whats so bad about being a bliss filled idiot?.....I have seen many of them die happy and I have seen many ruined and miserable........

Posted

Well......THAT was a total waste of time reading exercise....

I feel sorry for the 74 y/o but his heartbreak will go away - whereas the OP has publicly condemned himself and his thought processes.....

Devoted to a life of thoroughly wanton misery......

Ha! Apparently the shoes fit quite snugly on you sir! People living in glass houses, should never throw stones. You, sir, seem to have a penchant for that behavior (in general), on the forum. At least I'm not a paedophile expat, trying to recapture the under-developed, juvenile phases of what remains remains in my life. If you were so high and mighty "back-home", then you'd definitely not be shacking up with some "girl", who's young enough to be your grand-daugher. Shame on you, joker card. Now, if you want to continue to exchange words, on this level,, then please be my guest, on the personal message board. I'm just getting warmed-upcoffee1.gif

Nope - just reading your "factual" expose......Personally - and through years of experience and knowing people in both the PI and TH for 28-30 years I cannot verify/or find that you are correct....Maybe over the years I have been extremely lucky.....wherever I have been.....

I really don't care if you are just warming up - you're a pompous windbag beating your chest that holds no relevance.....either with your original post or your replies.....

Take your self imposed higher knowledge/status/"just getting started" pedestal back where you got it from where the sun don't shine.....

As I said before - sorry about your neighbor.....

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I dont know how many guys I know or have met or know of that are in there sixties and with twenty year olds. So many of them are very happy. The wives/gf's have homes , land , rental condos......The guys golf and travel and live a life they love. They will die with a smile on there faces.......However.....I also know that many of these girls are in relationships with other men or have numerous affairs and or are robbing them blind bit by bit , year by year......after the trust is built they become the total master. Its the .....Long con............I know a guy right now selling or trying to sell his beachfront house in order to build a new place on land that she owns......in her home area. He has been with her for years.....not at all attractive. All his buddies know she is a rat. He wont ever even believe it........So with this all being said.......Whats so bad about being a bliss filled idiot?.....I have seen many of them die happy and I have seen many ruined and miserable........

Well stated.clap2.gif

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Well......THAT was a total waste of time reading exercise....

I feel sorry for the 74 y/o but his heartbreak will go away - whereas the OP has publicly condemned himself and his thought processes.....

Devoted to a life of thoroughly wanton misery......

Ha! Apparently the shoes fit quite snugly on you sir! People living in glass houses, should never throw stones. You, sir, seem to have a penchant for that behavior (in general), on the forum. At least I'm not a paedophile expat, trying to recapture the under-developed, juvenile phases of what remains remains in my life. If you were so high and mighty "back-home", then you'd definitely not be shacking up with some "girl", who's young enough to be your grand-daugher. Shame on you, joker card. Now, if you want to continue to exchange words, on this level,, then please be my guest, on the personal message board. I'm just getting warmed-upcoffee1.gif

Nope - just reading your "factual" expose......Personally - and through years of experience and knowing people in both the PI and TH for 28-30 years I cannot verify/or find that you are correct....Maybe over the years I have been extremely lucky.....wherever I have been.....

I really don't care if you are just warming up - you're a pompous windbag beating your chest that holds no relevance.....either with your original post or your replies.....

Take your self imposed higher knowledge/status/"just getting started" pedestal back where you got it from where the sun don't shine.....

As I said before - sorry about your neighbor.....

I'm not sure that I agree (wholeheartedly) with NativeSon360's opinion, regarding the way things are, in the LOS. But, you should read your own words, sir! Based upon the spirit of your own unsolicited reply to the OP, you actually provoked that kind of response, coming from anyone, on the forum, NS was unnecessarily harsh, in his reply to you, but (seeing it objectively) you set yourself up, for that upper-cut. NS can certainly deliver a knock-out punch with words. He's also probably an excellent chess-match player, as well. His writing style says that much about him. Personally, had I been you, then I would have just left the sarcastic tone out of my reply, or not bothered to post a reply at all. I do feel for you, but at your age, sir, ( after 30+ years of your experiencing life, in Asia, then wisdom (on your part) definitely did not prevail, on that occasion. Best wishes, and cheers!

Edited by TuskegeeBen
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So the point of your story is ... ??

It doesn't matter what the age difference is, if one is content and happy with the person or girlfriend and one is happy with his home and daily life then who cares about your deeply rooted cultural values. Also, be careful and limit any risk in case it doesn't work.

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I dont know how many guys I know or have met or know of that are in there sixties and with twenty year olds. So many of them are very happy. The wives/gf's have homes , land , rental condos......The guys golf and travel and live a life they love. They will die with a smile on there faces.......However.....I also know that many of these girls are in relationships with other men or have numerous affairs and or are robbing them blind bit by bit , year by year......after the trust is built they become the total master. Its the .....Long con............I know a guy right now selling or trying to sell his beachfront house in order to build a new place on land that she owns......in her home area. He has been with her for years.....not at all attractive. All his buddies know she is a rat. He wont ever even believe it........So with this all being said.......Whats so bad about being a bliss filled idiot?.....I have seen many of them die happy and I have seen many ruined and miserable........

Whatever floats your boat, sir. My personal preference is a homegrown American girl, within plus or minus 7-years of my own age. Otherwise, I'd just as soon pay the occasion bar fines, ...and keep it simple!

Edited by TuskegeeBen
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Many phrases, well used on this forum come to mind.

" never invest more than you are prepared to walk away from"
" Play in the sewer and you'll meet rats"
" Dont tar everyone with the same brush"
" Thailand is a lot more than just Pattaya"
" Its your life, your money, live it your way"
" Renting is often cheaper and less hassle"

I Think that covers it.coffee1.gif

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Many phrases, well used on this forum come to mind.

" never invest more than you are prepared to walk away from"

" Play in the sewer and you'll meet rats"

" Dont tar everyone with the same brush"

" Thailand is a lot more than just Pattaya"

" Its your life, your money, live it your way"

" Renting is often cheaper and less hassle"

I Think that covers it.coffee1.gif

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