jcisco Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Today a revolution wouldn't require violence. Just shut down the internet. No banking, no domestic or international business transactions, no export orders, nothing imported, no money transfers, no web sites can be reached, no email communication, commerce stops... Heck, just block ports 80, 110 and 443 for websites, SSL and email and it all stops... All stops for whom? The internet isn't the only communications network on the planet. and while "internet" type traffic would go down if the network fell over some how, that doesn't stop banks or business transactions, or basically anything you listed. Glad most groups don't stop at disaster planning with with oh if the internet is dead, well we are fkd then and don't bother provisioning critical connectivity that travels via a different infrastructure. Damn..... so much time and effort everyone could save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It's not being cynical, this Amidst widespread criticism of the single gateway concept, Pol Lt Gen Prawut confirmed that the matter is currently under study by all related agencies and nothing has been decided yet. is an outright lie. Many of us thought this idiocy would be quietly dropped but given these ongoing statements, together with even the usually reasonably conservative BP headlines AND 'pro royalists headed by Pra Buddha Issara (what a joke)' are demonstrating against the US outside their embassy. Someone's not very well. With apologies for going off topic, what are they protesting? There doesn't seem to be any mention in the news forum...? 'Biased Thais' who criticise Thailand and who support HRW. Unable to link but on front page BP today. Rubi ( a trusted poster here) said it was so people would stop chatting and go back to work. Was he wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I go with the consensus, now that a cop said it's all OK. It isn't OK, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) 'Biased Thais' who criticise Thailand and who support HRW. Unable to link but on front page BP today. Rubi ( a trusted poster here) said it was so people would stop chatting and go back to work. Was he wrong? If it is the Rubi I am thinking of it would not. Rubi would just spend more ime talking to himself Edited October 2, 2015 by harrry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Rubi ( a trusted poster here) said it was so people would stop chatting and go back to work. Was he wrong? If it is the Rubi I am thinking of it would not. Rudi would just spend more ime talking to himself http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/856889-prayut-blames-political-leaders-for-problems/page-5#entry9917091 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerface1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Is there anyone from the Thai government monitoring or reading these posts? If you are and have anything to say in support of the governments plan to enforce a single internet gateway please share with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Trust me, I am a policeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzero Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So.....the list of potential subjects or areas that may be blocked, as the kind gentleman himself has listed, is exactly what people are concerned about. Anything that is deemed to be offensive (regardless of the reality, fairness or legitimacy of the concern) will be considered offensive. Great Fire Wall of China indeed. It's interesting - The Thai government treats citizens like children, where as the U.S. government treats it's citizens worldwide as financial slaves to collect tax from no matter where they actually live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So The police are the spokesman for the country ! Tell us what we can and cant do. Eventually it will be a police state run by the military. Cant wait !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This is a joke a real joke I do not want to believe what the police here are saying They have no credibility . If this single gateway comes into existence I will leave Thailand after 12 years of living here This is true communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "Instead, the system would aim to filter out any information that could threaten national security, tarnish the image of the Thai monarchy, or contaminate the minds of children." That information would be called "the truth" in the rest of the free world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This is a joke a real joke I do not want to believe what the police here are saying They have no credibility . If this single gateway comes into existence I will leave Thailand after 12 years of living here This is true communism No, it is true fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpedo1970 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 yeah right Like anyone in their right mind would trust any of the boys in blue with their smart phone or anything computer like......... trusting them in general is not on top of anybody's list ........ TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This is a joke a real joke I do not want to believe what the police here are saying They have no credibility . If this single gateway comes into existence I will leave Thailand after 12 years of living here This is true communism No, it is true fascism. What do the Chinese call it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talken1949 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This topic is within my area of professional expertise. I was dealing with this issue long before this country had a connection to the worldwide Internet. I'm sorry to see this proposal. It's an indicator the Thai government is overwhelmed by the volume, diversity and complexity of network traffic and is trying an easy way out to deal with it. If Thailand chooses psychological security over revenue and cultural development — the country and it's citizenry will lose out in the long run. There are other ways to deal with illegal, distasteful, or potential security information via the Internet. A single point of presence gateway is a chokepoint. When content filtering and common port blocking is added, it will slow down all traffic in and out of Thailand. It will do so to the point that tourists and businesses will not put up with it. They'll just go elsewhere. And they will not put up with VPN blocking. Many travelers rely on secure encrypted tunnels to transfer money, access financial accounts, transfer sensitive business documents, file news and other reports, and more. And of course, Thai's doing business internationally need these services inside and outside of Thailand. And users running VPN's --- a service they say they'll block --- will be unable to protect themselves from man in the middle and other hacker attacks while ensuring the security, confidentiality, and reliability of their information. The downsides: This will KILL TOURISM, FOREIGN INVESTMENT by big businesses, and dilute Ex-Pat retirement communities — all big revenue sources. Anyone relying on the Internet — especially those with ties to western source information — will simply go elsewhere. Those that are here will eventually leave because of it. Take a look at Vietnam for example of how businesses and tourists DO NOT operate there for a hint about what will happen here. The upside: There's only ONE upside and it is for the Government. This will allow them to control speech, protests, filter out objectionable content, filter in selective intercepts of targets and prevent any semblance of confidentiality across Thai networks. What they want is an easy way to filter and intercept everything and followup at will. I understand why they wish for this capability. But it's stultifying to the development of the country. The losses will not outweigh the gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well with that assurance I am sure everyone will drop their objections. Such a reliable source of accurate information that you can count on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooa Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ROTFL....and exactly how much is an assurance from the Thai Police worth? "Come into my parlour said the spider to the fly..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 While this peanut is telling Thailand that a single gateway won't cause any HR issues......the PM meanwhile denied ever ordering the system to be progressed..........(denying of course is a national past-time when the sh** starts to mess with the fan)! They're good these top men....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Instead, the system would aim to filter out any information that could threaten national security, tarnish the image of the Thai monarchy, or contaminate the minds of children. and this could be EVERYTHING, depends on the government. And I bet they will use the "gateway" properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Instead, the system would aim to filter out any information that could threaten national security, tarnish the image of the Thai monarchy, or contaminate the minds of children. and this could be EVERYTHING, depends on the government. And I bet they will use the "gateway" properly. You are being sarcastic right? You don't read about the facebook stuff eh? No, you must be being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooa Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "Instead, the system would aim to filter out any information that could ... contaminate the minds of children." What... you mean like the Thai indoctrination education system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 After a large number of dissenters intentionally flocked to the websites of many state agencies in a bid to cause their servers to crash, Pol Lt Gen Prawut called on those individuals to stop their action, warning that police could identify who they were and they could be subjected to punishments under the Computer Crime Act. I'm not a tech guy, just curious, if they can already identify and punish individuals who violate unspecified rules, why do they need a single portal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 After a large number of dissenters intentionally flocked to the websites of many state agencies in a bid to cause their servers to crash, Pol Lt Gen Prawut called on those individuals to stop their action, warning that police could identify who they were and they could be subjected to punishments under the Computer Crime Act. I'm not a tech guy, just curious, if they can already identify and punish individuals who violate unspecified rules, why do they need a single portal? They are not tech guys either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Instead, the system would aim to filter out any information that could threaten national security, tarnish the image of the Thai monarchy, or contaminate the minds of children. and this could be EVERYTHING, depends on the government. And I bet they will use the "gateway" properly. You are being sarcastic right? You don't read about the facebook stuff eh? No, you must be being sarcastic. sure, it was sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Thai police give assurance single gateway won’t breach freedoms Very honest. You can't breach what doesn't really exist in the first place. Edited October 2, 2015 by silent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rethaier Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ah well if the Thai police are giving me assurance I feel so much better... Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Whenever Thai police give assurances ... red flags go up. Got more red flags than people in China on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 He looks like he knows less about how the internet works than me, which is really saying something, because I tend to believe it is all magic. Of course it's not magic Al you fool! Allow me to explain. In every internet server are thousands of little mice on a treadmill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "warning that police could identify who they were..." This guy obviously did his google homework to find out how a DDoS works before making his speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ok, so overlook that the Thai police are the most corrupt and least trustworthy organisation in Thailand... If this single gateway was 'for the people' then why would the police be involved or even feel it their place to comment? Coz they are the best police force in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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