Palestinians barred from visiting Jerusalem’s Old City amid tension

[Pakboong]

The problem is a tough one. I think the root of the problem has to do with the idea that a Thai soi dog doesn't love her puppies as much as a pure bred house dog loves hers. This notion was planted in the minds of many Israelis by Golda Meir in the 60's. Some line she made about when "Palestinians love their kids, yada, yada, yada". In my view, that was a very stupid line and certainly one you would not expect from a world leader. It was not true then and it is not true now. I could find hundreds of photos of Palestinian children with half their heads blown off and to actually believe that those dead kid's Mom and Dad love theirs less than an Israeli parent loves theirs, is a hate crime.

Say the entire quote instead of posting inflammatory rubbish. The quote still resonates. But who do you think you're fooling? You just tried to divert this thread from the actual topic. It's not about rehashing the famous Golda Meir quote. Been there, done that about 100 times on this forum ... give it a rest.

Also, I somehow don't think there is any credibility for morality lectures about "hate crimes" from an individual who has openly admitted that he is sometimes racist towards Jews when it serves his purposes.

You got me JT. Guilty.

[Jingthing]

You got me JT. Guilty.

Honesty is appreciated.

[ggold]

And now Abbas wants the UN and international community to protect him from Hamas. He lies at the UN stirs trouble and hate and then runs to the UN for help!

http://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-asks-un-for-international-protection-as-violence-rages/

An adviser to Abbas said Monday that Palestinian leadership was not interested in a third intifada, and blamed Israel and Hamas for stoking the fires, Israel Radio reported.

Hamas, Nimar Hamad told a Palestinian news website, was working to undermine PA leadership in the West Bank and foment violence, while Jerusalem was interested in portraying Ramallah leadership as warmongering.

Now Palestinians want protecting from Palestinians! will they want a country as well?.................................

Edited October 5, 2015 by ggold

[thaibeachlovers]

Prod, prod, prod. Poke and try to get a reaction so as to have an excuse to release deadly force again.

The UN really needs to do something about this rogue aggressive state.

I agree. If they'd stop stabbing Israeli citizens things would go better for them. As it is, the UN should run them back into the desert where they came from.

What are you on about? They are from Jerusalem where they have lived for centuries.

[HughJass]

Prod, prod, prod. Poke and try to get a reaction so as to have an excuse to release deadly force again.

The UN really needs to do something about this rogue aggressive state.

I agree. If they'd stop stabbing Israeli citizens things would go better for them. As it is, the UN should run them back into the desert where they came from.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid Galilee of its Arab population."

-- David Ben-Gurion (Founding Father of the State of Israel and First Israeli Prime Minister), from Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar (May 1948)

[Jingthing]

Prod, prod, prod. Poke and try to get a reaction so as to have an excuse to release deadly force again.

The UN really needs to do something about this rogue aggressive state.

I agree. If they'd stop stabbing Israeli citizens things would go better for them. As it is, the UN should run them back into the desert where they came from.

What are you on about? They are from Jerusalem where they have lived for centuries.

So all the Arabs in Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria have been in the region for centuries? I find that hard to believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine

[dexterm]

Prod, prod, prod. Poke and try to get a reaction so as to have an excuse to release deadly force again.

The UN really needs to do something about this rogue aggressive state.

I agree. If they'd stop stabbing Israeli citizens things would go better for them. As it is, the UN should run them back into the desert where they came from.

What are you on about? They are from Jerusalem where they have lived for centuries.

So all the Arabs in Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria have been in the region for centuries? I find that hard to believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine

I find it even harder to believe that Joshua Cohen and his family who just stepped off a plane from New York and are granted instant citizenship and a home on stolen Palestinian land, have been in the region for centuries! That's the injustice that I and most of the world object to.

Edited October 5, 2015 by dexterm

[konying]

I find it even harder to believe that Joshua Cohen and his family who just stepped off a plane from New York and are granted instant citizenship and a home on stolen Palestinian land, have been in the region for centuries! That's the injustice that I and most of the world object to.

Stolen? It needs to belong to something non fictitious first to be stolen

[dexterm]

I find it even harder to believe that Joshua Cohen and his family who just stepped off a plane from New York and are granted instant citizenship and a home on stolen Palestinian land, have been in the region for centuries! That's the injustice that I and most of the world object to.

Stolen? It needs to belong to something non fictitious first to be stolen

Stolen from the existing resident population..remember ...all those hundreds of thousands of people living in over 400 villages now obliterated (but the world still knows the names), seemingly invisible to the hordes of illegal Jewish colonists arriving uninvited in the 20s and 30s intent on establishing a racist state by ethnically cleansing the existing population,

Today's OP exclusion is nothing new. The Zionists have been doing it for the last 67 years.

Edited October 5, 2015 by dexterm

[konying]

I find it even harder to believe that Joshua Cohen and his family who just stepped off a plane from New York and are granted instant citizenship and a home on stolen Palestinian land, have been in the region for centuries! That's the injustice that I and most of the world object to.

Stolen? It needs to belong to something non fictitious first to be stolen

Stolen from the existing resident population..remember ...all those hundreds of thousands of people living in over 400 villages now obliterated (but the world still knows the names), seemingly invisible to the hordes of illegal Jewish immigrants arriving uninvited in the 20s and 30s intent on establishing a racist state by ethnically cleansing the existing population,

Today's OP exclusion is nothing new. The Zionists have been doing it for the last 67 years.

Existing resident population ARE allowed, the NON residents are the ones who are not.

Get on with the facts, instead of sucking water out of stone

[dexterm]

Sorry thread full.

Konying, if you want to do some fact checking try..

Even the The Jewish Virtual Library claims that as far back as 1800 almost 100 years before the founding of Zionism in 1896 and the waves of Jewish migration that Zionism encouraged,Jews formed a mere 8.7% (24,000) and Palestinians 91.3% (275,000) of the population.

Even after the first waves of Jewish migrations 1890 - 1922, the Jewish population of Palestine was only 11% when the first census was taken, and they owned a mere 3% of the land

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/demograhics.html

[konying]

Sorry thread full.

Konying, if you want to do some fact checking try..

Even the The Jewish Virtual Library claims that as far back as 1800 almost 100 years before the founding of Zionism in 1896 and the waves of Jewish migration that Zionism encouraged,Jews formed a mere 8.7% (24,000) and Palestinians 91.3% (275,000) of the population.

Even after the first waves of Jewish migrations 1890 - 1922, the Jewish population of Palestine was only 11% when the first census was taken, and they owned a mere 3% of the land

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/demograhics.html

More nonsense, no surprise from the same fiction making people, ie YOU

Edited October 5, 2015 by konying

[dexterm]

Sorry thread full.

Konying, if you want to do some fact checking try..

Even the The Jewish Virtual Library claims that as far back as 1800 almost 100 years before the founding of Zionism in 1896 and the waves of Jewish migration that Zionism encouraged,Jews formed a mere 8.7% (24,000) and Palestinians 91.3% (275,000) of the population.

Even after the first waves of Jewish migrations 1890 - 1922, the Jewish population of Palestine was only 11% when the first census was taken, and they owned a mere 3% of the land

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/demograhics.html

More nonsense, no surprise from the same fiction making people, ie YOU

Better take your fact checking problem up with Benjamin Netanyahu who endorsed my source, the The Jewish Virtual Library established by The American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise (AICE) established in 1993 as a nonprofit and nonpartisan organization to strengthen the U.S.-Israel relationship by emphasizing the fundamentals of the alliance — the values our nations share.

"There's a depth and richness of this relationship that is expressed every day.... we have an enduring bond of values, interests, beginning with security and the way that we share both information and other things to help the common defense of our common interests..."

-Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/about/index.shtml

[HughJass]

Sorry thread full.

Konying, if you want to do some fact checking try..

Even the The Jewish Virtual Library claims that as far back as 1800 almost 100 years before the founding of Zionism in 1896 and the waves of Jewish migration that Zionism encouraged,Jews formed a mere 8.7% (24,000) and Palestinians 91.3% (275,000) of the population.

Even after the first waves of Jewish migrations 1890 - 1922, the Jewish population of Palestine was only 11% when the first census was taken, and they owned a mere 3% of the land

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/demograhics.html

More nonsense, no surprise from the same fiction making people, ie YOU

Better take your fact checking problem up with Benjamin Netanyahu who endorsed my source, the The Jewish Virtual Library established by The American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise (AICE) established in 1993 as a nonprofit and nonpartisan organization to strengthen the U.S.-Israel relationship by emphasizing the fundamentals of the alliance — the values our nations share.

"There's a depth and richness of this relationship that is expressed every day.... we have an enduring bond of values, interests, beginning with security and the way that we share both information and other things to help the common defense of our common interests..."

-Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/about/index.shtml

Israel can pretty much do what it wants because it owns the US govt and the US media

[SOTIRIOS]

....quite a perverse, lopsided rendition of 'reality'......