accident

[overherebc]

Situation.

You are not at fault when a motorbike cuts in front of you.

You hit the bike.

The bike driver has no licence.

You have everything. First class insurance, tax paid, licence and are sober.

Would you consider paying money to the injured or dead bike riders family or, as I think, are you rewarding people for being stupid.

Yes or No.?

[uksomchai]

If you have first class insurance then phone them and let the agent sort everything out from then on.

[stoneyboy]

I would let my insurance company deal with the situation from the start to the finish,simple.

[bearpolar]

You are at fault.

If you hit a motorbike, if a motorbike crashes into you, if a motorbike jumps off a roof and lands on you, whatever a motorbike does its never at fault unless he hits a pedestrian

You have to pay them money, as a thai would pay money if he hit your bike and it was your fault. Even the police sides with farangs on bikes when they are at fault.

[Tywais]

You are at fault.

If you hit a motorbike, if a motorbike crashes into you, if a motorbike jumps off a roof and lands on you, whatever a motorbike does its never at fault unless he hits a pedestrian

Nonsense, unless that was satire/sarcasm.

But as said, the insurance company will do the work for you. Even so, you may still have to negotiate at the police station with the other party even if it is clearly their fault.

[Don Mega]

You are at fault.

If you hit a motorbike, if a motorbike crashes into you, if a motorbike jumps off a roof and lands on you, whatever a motorbike does its never at fault unless he hits a pedestrian

You have to pay them money, as a thai would pay money if he hit your bike and it was your fault. Even the police sides with farangs on bikes when they are at fault.

you spewing forth a lot of waffle there.

I have had 2 scoot dudes kamikaze themselves into me. Both time they got nothing from me or my insurance and the police gave them a ticket for their stupidity.

[overherebc]

DonMega.

if your answer is serious, which I doubt, it's because of attitudes like that others have to reward idiots for being idiots. I know there is a mind set from years ago that the 'bike is right' and many expats still believe it, wrong as it is.

[bearpolar]

Don, i do not believe you. If theres something Thais know is that whatever happens its the bigger car's fault. Unless theres 100 withnesses that saw him blatantly try to kill himself on your car, you're done.

It's stupid but thats how it works.

[Don Mega]

My answer is serious. I have been hit by 2 scooter riders and both times they were blamed as at fault by the police and they got nothing from me or my insurance company. One of them was well banged up as he ran into the back of my pickup at high speed whilst I was stationary at traffic lights. The other ran into the door of my car whilst I was crossing an interesection that the police were directing traffic... he ignored the policeman and tried to runn through the intersection unfortunately for him right at the moment I was crossing and he went straight into the door of my car.

[Tywais]

Don, i do not believe you. If theres something Thais know is that whatever happens its the bigger car's fault. Unless theres 100 withnesses that saw him blatantly try to kill himself on your car, you're done.

It's stupid but thats how it works.

My direct experience has shown otherwise as have quite a few members posting in the past.

[stevenl]

Don, i do not believe you. If theres something Thais know is that whatever happens its the bigger car's fault. Unless theres 100 withnesses that saw him blatantly try to kill himself on your car, you're done.

It's stupid but thats how it works.

I can tell you from experience you're wrong.

[stevenl]

@ the op, I would leave it to the insurance guy. But if you really feel you were not at fault (not always easy to proof he cut in front if you and it was not you that missed him breaking) I would tell the insurance guy not to admit guilt. Sometimes they give in, simply because it is helping the victim and costing you not much.

[cumgranosalum]

"You are not at fault when a motorbike cuts in front of you."

Remember in Thailand there is a priority to the left rule except at roundabouts........if the motorbike has "cut out" from a side road, he is probably in the right.

[cumgranosalum]

The FIRST thing you do in the event of a collision or any incident, is call your insurance - this is VITAL...he will act as an intermediary on your (or the company's) behalf.

If you interfere you will almost certainly damage the process and it will come out the worse for you.

[IMHO]

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

[stevenl]

"You are not at fault when a motorbike cuts in front of you."

Remember in Thailand there is a priority to the left rule except at roundabouts........if the motorbike has "cut out" from a side road, he is probably in the right.

'Except st roundabouts or any other more important road.

Left right of way is only applicable to roads of equal importance.

[cumgranosalum]

"You are not at fault when a motorbike cuts in front of you."

Remember in Thailand there is a priority to the left rule except at roundabouts........if the motorbike has "cut out" from a side road, he is probably in the right.

'Except st roundabouts or any other more important road.

Left right of way is only applicable to roads of equal importance.

Unfortunately "importance" is not easily definable.

This system exists on French roads and has largely been over-ruled but the principle still exists in town as it does in Thailand.

If you see the word "sai" instead of Soi it may be the only indiocation that the road on your left has priority.

[cumgranosalum]

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

then you have visual proof it was your fault too.......trouble with video is that it isn['t waht you SEE...it's what you CAN"T SEE that is usually important and .remember the police or law will decide what they see in your video....

[stevenl]

"You are not at fault when a motorbike cuts in front of you."

Remember in Thailand there is a priority to the left rule except at roundabouts........if the motorbike has "cut out" from a side road, he is probably in the right.

'Except st roundabouts or any other more important road.

Left right of way is only applicable to roads of equal importance.

Unfortunately "importance" is not easily definable.

This system exists on French roads and has largely been over-ruled but the principle still exists in town as it does in Thailand.

If you see the word "sai" instead of Soi it may be the only indiocation that the road on your left has priority.

Road numbering and lining are the main indicators.

Agree though, it is not always easy and I know quite a few places here in the island where many have no clue when to give way or not.

[IMHO]

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

then you have visual proof it was your fault too.......trouble with video is that it isn['t waht you SEE...it's what you CAN"T SEE that is usually important and .remember the police or law will decide what they see in your video....

Seriously, with 2 of these (1 front, 1 back) there's not much you're missing out on... that's up to 340 degrees of coverage, with a "blind spot" that's pretty negligible, considering you're normally moving.. and if you're stationary, how could it be your fault?

[cumgranosalum]

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

then you have visual proof it was your fault too.......trouble with video is that it isn['t waht you SEE...it's what you CAN"T SEE that is usually important and .remember the police or law will decide what they see in your video....

Seriously, with 2 of these (1 front, 1 back) there's not much you're missing out on... that's up to 340 degrees of coverage, with a "blind spot" that's pretty negligible, considering you're normally moving.. and if you're stationary, how could it be your fault?

I think you have an overly naive grasp of video as evidence....Regardless of what kind of lens you use.

[pj123]

I had an accident turning right in slow moving oncoming traffic into my village. Motorbike came riding up the outside of the oncoming traffic, and hit the offside rear just behind the wheel. Damaged his foot. Minor dents and scratches to the car. Ambulances, police turned up. I went to the police station with my insurance rep. Gave statement. Car was inspected by engineer at the police station. I have not heard from them since and that was at the end of June. I had a front dash cam recording of the accident and that may have helped. Also my wife gave the police officer a headache on the phone and that definitely helped!

[IMHO]

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

then you have visual proof it was your fault too.......trouble with video is that it isn['t waht you SEE...it's what you CAN"T SEE that is usually important and .remember the police or law will decide what they see in your video....

Seriously, with 2 of these (1 front, 1 back) there's not much you're missing out on... that's up to 340 degrees of coverage, with a "blind spot" that's pretty negligible, considering you're normally moving.. and if you're stationary, how could it be your fault?

I think you have an overly naive grasp of video as evidence....Regardless of what kind of lens you use.

I have no idea what you're fishing at, but 1,050,000 Youtube videos can't be wrong

[Ace of Pop]

Half the vids on You Tube prove that most users drive like prats

[cumgranosalum]

Half the vids on You Tube prove that most users drive like prats

Duh! Pretty facile observation ..... that's why they are on You Tube

[Ace of Pop]

So you just think T V users are facile then like the majority. I prefer full insurance and remain silent.

[cumgranosalum]

So you just think T V users are facile then like the majority. I prefer full insurance and remain silent.

..appears to be a total non-sequitur...could you explain....

[cumgranosalum]

Don, i do not believe you. If theres something Thais know is that whatever happens its the bigger car's fault. Unless theres 100 withnesses that saw him blatantly try to kill himself on your car, you're done.

It's stupid but thats how it works.

<deleted> anyone who follows your advice or believes this is likely to end up in a lot more trouble than they bargained for.......

[cumgranosalum]

I think you have an overly naive grasp of video as evidence....Regardless of what kind of lens you use.

For all you guys that are convinced you'll be ruled in the wrong no matter what, I offer you this link:

http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=drivepro

You need it.

then you have visual proof it was your fault too.......trouble with video is that it isn['t waht you SEE...it's what you CAN"T SEE that is usually important and .remember the police or law will decide what they see in your video....

Seriously, with 2 of these (1 front, 1 back) there's not much you're missing out on... that's up to 340 degrees of coverage, with a "blind spot" that's pretty negligible, considering you're normally moving.. and if you're stationary, how could it be your fault?

I have no idea what you're fishing at, but 1,050,000 Youtube videos can't be wrong

You appear to be of the school of thought that says "if it's on the net, then it must be true"- not impressed by this school

[bearpolar]

Don, i do not believe you. If theres something Thais know is that whatever happens its the bigger car's fault. Unless theres 100 withnesses that saw him blatantly try to kill himself on your car, you're done.

It's stupid but thats how it works.

anyone who follows your advice or believes this is likely to end up in a lot more trouble than they bargained for.......

Coming from a guy who thinks that "knowing that if a motorbike hits you, you are going to be in the wrong" is an advice and dangerous?