how long after dengue you are infective

[T_Dog]

H90... A long easy recovery from dengue fever is important to allow your body to recover. If you hit it too hard too soon, you may end up with a life long problem. Google "post dengue viral fatigue syndrome" to learn more about it. I would wait 3 months before any cycling or hard exercise.

[oncearugge]

It is not about myself get infected again. It is about I infect my wife accidentially

Your wife is at risk but no more than anyone else. The mosquito that carries the dengue virus is a different variety than normal mosquitoes, a bit smaller and a lot more intelligent. They have a preference for built up areas and human blood.

The virus can be passed on to the eggs which can even survive the dry season,a large percentage of those mosquitoes are born with the virus. The chances of you being bitten by a mosquito of the dengue variety that does not already have the virus is very slim.

One positive is that like myself you now have lifetime immunity to the strain you contracted but I have never been able to find out which strain it was, or which strains are prevalent in Thailand and which areas. I got it from a bite in a hotel in Pattaya.

WOW!

"Intelligent" mosquitoes !

That is news !

Dengue in fact is carried by the ‎Aedes aegypti mosquito which has,as yet, not been proven to be "intelligent"........................

You should read some of the reports from the Australian research. They are currently doing field trials to try and breed out the disease.

Produce me one, just one, published, scientific paper which discusses "intelligent" mosquitoes

Thanks

[Sheryl]

...One positive is that like myself you now have lifetime immunity to the strain you contracted but I have never been able to find out which strain it was, or which strains are prevalent in Thailand and which areas. I got it from a bite in a hotel in Pattaya.

All strains are present here. And all parts of the country.

Any facts or figures on that. I am only interested in the number of cases of each strain that have been reported in Chonburi.

Not all diagnosed/treated cases of Dengue are serotyped so your question cannot be answered.

The overwhelming majority are not serotyped. Serotyping has no clinical value on an individual basis.

Serotyping is done for epidemiological purposes during major epidemics (but just on a small sample of cases). Different serotypes have been prevalent during different outbreaks - though there is always a mix i.e. even in years where one serotype is predominant there are cases from the other strains as well.

No region of Thailand is limited in this regard. If you are hoping that for some reason only one serotype is present in Chonburi area, not the case.

[h90]

H90... A long easy recovery from dengue fever is important to allow your body to recover. If you hit it too hard too soon, you may end up with a life long problem. Google "post dengue viral fatigue syndrome" to learn more about it. I would wait 3 months before any cycling or hard exercise.

Too late, I am already on full scale training again....I try to reduce the peaks, not going much over 150 hear beats per second.....but sitting on the bike in the full sun.

I considered to give it more time, but sitting at home not doing nothing would bear the risk of depressions or divorce. I need some challange and I started with a slow 10 km on the bike, next day 20, next day 30, next day 40 and while weak my body reponds feels right.

Everything tells me I complete overcame it. I think my advantage was that I am very fit, so I could handle the fever relative well.

And I really try not to max out my power, going 10-20% lower than I would feel comfortable with.

[sandyf]

Your wife is at risk but no more than anyone else. The mosquito that carries the dengue virus is a different variety than normal mosquitoes, a bit smaller and a lot more intelligent. They have a preference for built up areas and human blood.

The virus can be passed on to the eggs which can even survive the dry season,a large percentage of those mosquitoes are born with the virus. The chances of you being bitten by a mosquito of the dengue variety that does not already have the virus is very slim.

One positive is that like myself you now have lifetime immunity to the strain you contracted but I have never been able to find out which strain it was, or which strains are prevalent in Thailand and which areas. I got it from a bite in a hotel in Pattaya.

WOW!

"Intelligent" mosquitoes !

That is news !

Dengue in fact is carried by the ‎Aedes aegypti mosquito which has,as yet, not been proven to be "intelligent"........................

You should read some of the reports from the Australian research. They are currently doing field trials to try and breed out the disease.

Produce me one, just one, published, scientific paper which discusses "intelligent" mosquitoes

Thanks

It would take some intelligence to recognise that one species could be more intelligent than another.

[sandyf]

Any facts or figures on that. I am only interested in the number of cases of each strain that have been reported in Chonburi.

Not all diagnosed/treated cases of Dengue are serotyped so your question cannot be answered.

The overwhelming majority are not serotyped. Serotyping has no clinical value on an individual basis.

Serotyping is done for epidemiological purposes during major epidemics (but just on a small sample of cases). Different serotypes have been prevalent during different outbreaks - though there is always a mix i.e. even in years where one serotype is predominant there are cases from the other strains as well.

No region of Thailand is limited in this regard. If you are hoping that for some reason only one serotype is present in Chonburi area, not the case.

There must be some reference to what you are saying. There are several reports following the 2001 outbreak but they mainly concentrate on adult/child comparisons and female vulnerability. I live in a high risk area so it is something to be aware of.

"In Chonburi province, high risk areas for Dengue Fever are in Banglamung, Sriracha and Muang Chonburi respectively. "

[connda]

I was running a 102F temperature exactly one week and 6 hours after being bitten. You mileage may vary.

[connda]

The good news is that the first time one gets dengue, it ain't so bad, sometimes little more than a mild flu,

The bad news is that the second time is deadly serious, and more often than not lays one up in hospital.

Actually there is a wide spectrum of severity and the first time can be quite bad. I was in hospital for 2 weeks the first time I had it. Second and third times, by contrast, I barely needed to stay home.

Criminy Sheryl. Three times! If you get it once more, aren't you immune?

I had it once which was bad enough. It wasn't the two week of being sick. It was the 17 months of fatigue that lasted after the initial infection. The doctors can debate post-dengue fatigue syndrome until they are blue in the face as far as I'm concerned. I was on the receiving end and it was as real as the computer keys that I'm typing with. I never want to go though that again.

[h90]

The good news is that the first time one gets dengue, it ain't so bad, sometimes little more than a mild flu,

The bad news is that the second time is deadly serious, and more often than not lays one up in hospital.

Actually there is a wide spectrum of severity and the first time can be quite bad. I was in hospital for 2 weeks the first time I had it. Second and third times, by contrast, I barely needed to stay home.

Criminy Sheryl. Three times! If you get it once more, aren't you immune?

I had it once which was bad enough. It wasn't the two week of being sick. It was the 17 months of fatigue that lasted after the initial infection. The doctors can debate post-dengue fatigue syndrome until they are blue in the face as far as I'm concerned. I was on the receiving end and it was as real as the computer keys that I'm typing with. I never want to go though that again.

I feel it is better if starting exercise just a few days after Dengue is over....Light exercise first. I am very weak but it feels like it is positive for the body. Kind of activates it and speeds up the repair work....

In combination with good, protein rich food.

[Bluetongue]

h90 did you actually get a diagnosis of dengue from a hospital or Doctor? just curious as your symptoms do seem mild and your recovery very quick

[h90]

h90 did you actually get a diagnosis of dengue from a hospital or Doctor? just curious as your symptoms do seem mild and your recovery very quick

40 degree (measured under the armpit, so maybe slightly more if measured at different places) fever 2-3 days with raving headache.

a lower fever a few days

39-39.5 again and skin problems, which need 2+ weeks to complete clear up.

strange mind effects....you can't stop thinking and wake up and dreams mix into some united nightmare....

Total about 10 days. (When temperature is below 37.5 I called it finish)

Than sometimes strange headaches without reason....but that is no problem. Last skin problems just cleared up now. (yesterday I saw the last infected spot, maybe gone today).

That sounds mild to you? At 40 degree you permanent hear/feel your heart pounding.

I think it wasn't mild at all. Lost 3-4 kg in this period and when exercise I am still very weak in matter of power, cardio looks better.

But recovery was fast. I think because: I tried to keep nutrition, vitamins, fluids, etc as good as possible during the disease. When I reduced fever for some time I force feed myself. (at 40 fever I can't eat, but drank sweet things).

Even with fever, when it was lower I tried to be up and out of the bed.

I regularly exercise and be fit, that might help a lot on recovery.

The first 2 days I thought it is a flu...as I don't know how a flu feels as I never had a flu in my life (as long as I can remember) once I recognized it as Dengue it was clear that it was not hemorrhagic and so no need for a Doc.

I am 99% sure for the Dengue because everything was just like out of the guide book: quick high fever, strong headache, strong pain behind the eyes, Muscle pain, than reduced fever, skin problems and strong fever comes back.

Actually it was longer than the "clinical course" diagram suggest which shows no fever day 6/7. And for me it was more like 9/10.

Wikipedia tells: "Typically, people infected with dengue virus are asymptomatic (80%) or have only mild symptoms such as an uncomplicated fever."

[h90]

h90 did you actually get a diagnosis of dengue from a hospital or Doctor? just curious as your symptoms do seem mild and your recovery very quick

I want to add for the quick recovery....I got a blocked nose (normally never have this), than a sour throat for 3 days (very rarely have this), sometimes strange headache, some areas very outside, and more when touching the hair....like it is the skin.

Sometimes like someone would pock me with a needle into the head (just a fraction of second).

And I just looked: in the time when the fever went down....I went for a short time outside and thought I can steal some Vitamin D....just a few minutes in the morning....a day before the skin problems began....That really shot the skin on some areas....still not complete good

But I simply ignore it...Sheryl warned me a bit before about weird effects......So some might whine about these small things and call himself still sick....I ignore it and train again.....

[Bluetongue]

I had dengue fever. diagnosed through a blood test at a Hospital, initially all I felt was very weak, and a generalised ache all over, no great temperature it was a bit high, headaches or skin conditions. I actually thought I was on a second bout of malaria. After I could not eat for about a third day and the platelet count went down I hospitalised for three days. Still felt very weak for months best part of a year really.

Not wishing to upset you any further I won't comment on your self diagnosis and treatment of what possibly could have been something else, you say you've never had the flu for instance, some people display different symptoms of different things obviously so the main thing is you are on your way to recovery and don't seem to have been overly harmed physically by the experience

[h90]

I had dengue fever. diagnosed through a blood test at a Hospital, initially all I felt was very weak, and a generalised ache all over, no great temperature it was a bit high, headaches or skin conditions. I actually thought I was on a second bout of malaria. After I could not eat for about a third day and the platelet count went down I hospitalised for three days. Still felt very weak for months best part of a year really.

Not wishing to upset you any further I won't comment on your self diagnosis and treatment of what possibly could have been something else, you say you've never had the flu for instance, some people display different symptoms of different things obviously so the main thing is you are on your way to recovery and don't seem to have been overly harmed physically by the experience

Read Wikipedia for Dengue Fever. Yours is not typical. High fever is one of typical things for Dengue.

No I am not upset :-)

What surprises me is that I am so extreme weak in muscle power, but feeling well over all. Dengue normally if it is not hemorrhagic doesn't need hospital, can wait it out at home. If it is hemorrhagic, not going to the doc might been your last mistake....

Lots of people get it now....everyone knows at least 1 person.

[mommysboy]

I had dengue fever. diagnosed through a blood test at a Hospital, initially all I felt was very weak, and a generalised ache all over, no great temperature it was a bit high, headaches or skin conditions. I actually thought I was on a second bout of malaria. After I could not eat for about a third day and the platelet count went down I hospitalised for three days. Still felt very weak for months best part of a year really.

Not wishing to upset you any further I won't comment on your self diagnosis and treatment of what possibly could have been something else, you say you've never had the flu for instance, some people display different symptoms of different things obviously so the main thing is you are on your way to recovery and don't seem to have been overly harmed physically by the experience

Read Wikipedia for Dengue Fever. Yours is not typical. High fever is one of typical things for Dengue.

No I am not upset :-)

What surprises me is that I am so extreme weak in muscle power, but feeling well over all. Dengue normally if it is not hemorrhagic doesn't need hospital, can wait it out at home. If it is hemorrhagic, not going to the doc might been your last mistake....

Lots of people get it now....everyone knows at least 1 person.

It doesn't sound like the flu as this usually has a different set of symptoms. But flu, dengue, or something else you really had a serious bout of something and it is not lightly shrugged off. You really must ensure you rest up, a couple of extra hours in bed, and light exercise would be my advice.

Post viral fatigue would be almost inevitable and this can be felt as merely feeling lethargic, all the way through to full depression. In your symptoms what you actually describe is delirium albeit mild, so for sure you had a hell of a fever.

[h90]

I had dengue fever. diagnosed through a blood test at a Hospital, initially all I felt was very weak, and a generalised ache all over, no great temperature it was a bit high, headaches or skin conditions. I actually thought I was on a second bout of malaria. After I could not eat for about a third day and the platelet count went down I hospitalised for three days. Still felt very weak for months best part of a year really.

Not wishing to upset you any further I won't comment on your self diagnosis and treatment of what possibly could have been something else, you say you've never had the flu for instance, some people display different symptoms of different things obviously so the main thing is you are on your way to recovery and don't seem to have been overly harmed physically by the experience

Read Wikipedia for Dengue Fever. Yours is not typical. High fever is one of typical things for Dengue.

No I am not upset :-)

What surprises me is that I am so extreme weak in muscle power, but feeling well over all. Dengue normally if it is not hemorrhagic doesn't need hospital, can wait it out at home. If it is hemorrhagic, not going to the doc might been your last mistake....

Lots of people get it now....everyone knows at least 1 person.

It doesn't sound like the flu as this usually has a different set of symptoms. But flu, dengue, or something else you really had a serious bout of something and it is not lightly shrugged off. You really must ensure you rest up, a couple of extra hours in bed, and light exercise would be my advice.

Post viral fatigue would be almost inevitable and this can be felt as merely feeling lethargic, all the way through to full depression. In your symptoms what you actually describe is delirium albeit mild, so for sure you had a hell of a fever.

That delirium is a funny thing. When the fever was a bit lower, but still high, I could think normal.....OK they results from an IQ test wouldn't be too good.....but normal way of thinking. But when stay in the bed, I continued to think without focus and weird and at some speed. Of course impossible to sleep. I found out to listen to music with understandable intelligent text and focus on the lyrics. That gives something to think and stops that madness.

At higher temperature everything is fusing together into some mix of dream and reality...somehow you don't know the difference between sleep and wake up anymore. But it doesn't mean you are not yourself. I was exactly on 40 degree Celsius measured under the arm pit (not mouth, or axxx). I thought if it goes over 40 I go an see a doc, but it stayed there exactly.

Now bed: I always sleep as long as I need...and you are right it seems I sleep a few hours more now.....I specially try to "eat a lot". Eat regularly with some healthy mix of protein, carbs and fat. Staying alone at the moment I would sometimes only eat dinner....now I try to be reasonable

light exercise: on weight training, the weights I CAN use are like minus 30 %. I am fit so that is good and will come back fast I hope. But if someone is overweight and already struggle with the daily life and you take off 30% than he has a real problem.

On the bicycle (road bike) saw some average speed of 23 km/h....OK I didn't push myself but 23 (but that was in the first week afterwards).

I have one advantage....I am absolute needed in the office and it is my money, so if you feel weak and depressed you push yourself because you don't want to loose everything you built up the last 10 years and being busy distracts yourself. Being annoyed from the work you do some light exercises....so you fall into your routine without the chance of getting lethargic. (Beside Sunday)

[Mosha]

There are 5 known different strains of Dengue and just because you caught one strain it does not immunise you from the others - equally Dengue stays in your body and can reoccur from time to time.

My Thai wife went down with it ( her fault as she insisted on staying out at dusk when the mozzies were out and biting mad - I took the kids indoor and we stayed there.She was laid out for over a week with it and still suffers from time to time with it Re-occurring

The real problem is that the mozzie that carries dengue is active during the day so mozzie prevention is key

1) Mozzie nets on all doors and windows

2) Mozzie plugs in all rooms

3) air con on full before going to bed ( that always gets them )

4) avoid known mozzie areas

5) stay indoors when and after it is raining - that's when they are in full cry

6) they hate lemon or lime so use this as a cheap way of keeping them at bay

Last but not least check it out for yourself - you have search engines and the world awaits you

Aedes Mosquito is the one that passes on Dengue and it's a diurmal species.

[h90]

There are 5 known different strains of Dengue and just because you caught one strain it does not immunise you from the others - equally Dengue stays in your body and can reoccur from time to time.

My Thai wife went down with it ( her fault as she insisted on staying out at dusk when the mozzies were out and biting mad - I took the kids indoor and we stayed there.She was laid out for over a week with it and still suffers from time to time with it Re-occurring

The real problem is that the mozzie that carries dengue is active during the day so mozzie prevention is key

1) Mozzie nets on all doors and windows

2) Mozzie plugs in all rooms

3) air con on full before going to bed ( that always gets them )

4) avoid known mozzie areas

5) stay indoors when and after it is raining - that's when they are in full cry

6) they hate lemon or lime so use this as a cheap way of keeping them at bay

Last but not least check it out for yourself - you have search engines and the world awaits you

Aedes Mosquito is the one that passes on Dengue and it's a diurmal species.

don't trust them.....

[Lumbini]

So how concerned should we be if we live in Bangkok and how can one protect themselves ? I wanted to start a new thread but added the question here . Thailand really downplays anything that could hurt tourism and as I learn more about this feel like its downplayed to keep tourism high especially now at holiday season [emoji780][emoji780][emoji780]

[h90]

Bangkok: yes concerned because I got it in Bangkok and there are several others who got it in BKK.

Protect: no mosquito bites you and you are safe

[Lumbini]

Need to find one of these frogs I hear outside my window tonight [emoji196]

[h90]

Need to find one of these frogs I hear outside my window tonight [emoji196]ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect1449165228.682450.jpg

My wife want to kick out the geckos (because they leave excrements)....I try to protect them because everyone who eats mosquitoes is my friend.

Having some frogs in the office would be of course an improvement