webfact Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Republicans rush to shut borders to Syrian refugeesBy ERICA WERNER and ALICIA A. CALDWELLWASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans urged an immediate closure of America's borders to Syrian refugees Tuesday, drawing angry denunciations from some Democrats and igniting an emotional debate about U.S. values in the wake of the deadly Paris terror attacks."Pause" was the word used by both new House Speaker Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, urging at least a temporary halt in the resettlement of Syrians and disputing Obama administration claims that the small numbers making their way here so far are being thoroughly investigated.The administration showed no sign of backing off its plans to bring an additional 10,000 Syrian refugees to the U.S. and mounted a hasty defense of its vetting process, which Attorney General Loretta Lynch assured Congress is "robust."Yet there were signs that Democratic allies might abandon the White House on the issue. Chuck Schumer of New York, the third-ranking Senate Democrat, broke with most in his party and told reporters that a pause in accepting Syrian refugees "may be necessary."Schumer's comment underscored what could become an increasingly uncomfortable position for Democrats as worried voters seek assurances that Friday's carnage in the streets of Paris will not be repeated here. Some lawmakers pointed to indications that one of the Islamic State attackers carried a Syrian passport and may have arrived in France among waves of desperate refugees. Yet Germany's top security official said the passport might have been a fake intended to stoke fears.Amid the uncertainty, Ryan confronted an unexpected foreign policy test in his third week on the job. Ahead of a classified briefing Tuesday evening for lawmakers he assembled a task force of committee chairmen to bring refugee legislation to the floor as soon as this week."This is a moment where it's better to be safe than to be sorry," he said. "So we think the prudent, the responsible thing is to take a pause in this particular aspect of this refugee program in order to verify that terrorists are not trying to infiltrate the refugee population."McConnell echoed that call within hours, remarking: "It's pretty clear how the American people feel about this."After an initial meeting of the House GOP task force Tuesday, aides to Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said the focus of legislation would be on stopping Syrian refugee resettlement until the administration can offer assurances that no terrorists are being admitted, including via FBI background investigations. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the vetting process should be made stronger if possible and the White House was looking at how to do so.On the campaign trail, GOP presidential candidates denounced the Obama administration's strategy against the Islamic State group that has claimed responsibility for the Paris attacks.Donald Trump accused the administration of sending refugees primarily to Republican-led states, and more governors announced their objections to receiving any refugees from the civil war in Syria. Those governors included at least one Democrat, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, who is running for the Senate.Jeb Bush endorsed the idea of a pause in accepting Syrians while officials determine how best to evaluate them. He said that refugees "don't normally come with embedded terrorists in their midst, and that's the challenge."The backlash against Syrian refugees rose up just a few months after a photo of a small boy lying lifeless on a beach sparked calls of compassion for Syrians facing brutality in their home country. Some Democrats and refugee advocates likened the GOP reaction to the U.S. government turning away Jews fleeing Nazi Germany and placing Japanese in internment camps during World War II.The emotions were also reminiscent of the waves of fears that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, and they emerged with immigration already a fraught issue on Capitol Hill and in the presidential campaign."Let us, as legislators rise above petty politics, rise above sectarian fears, rise above the underlying layer of xenophobia that often surfaces in this country at moments like this throughout our history," Democratic Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois urged on the House floor. "And let us maintain America's commitment to being a beacon of hope."Yet few Democrats were so outspoken, and even Republicans sympathetic to their view said they saw a need to act."Even amongst the most pro-immigration wings of the Republican Party there is a sense that national security absolutely has to come first," said Republican Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina.The U.S. has admitted roughly 2,500 Syrians since the civil war erupted in that country in the spring of 2011, State Department officials said. Of that number, about half are children. About 2 percent are single men of combat age. The overall pool is almost evenly split between males and females.Officials emphasized that screening for Syrian refugees is the most rigorous for any set of travelers wishing to enter the United States, including an interview overseas, biometrics, fingerprinting and biographical investigations to determine if individuals are truly worthy of refugee status or if they pose security risks.The current acceptance rate for Syrians is around 50 percent. The others include denials and cases pending further investigation.Such assurances did little to move GOP lawmakers. McConnell pointed to a case in his home state of Kentucky where two Iraqis who had been granted refugee status were arrested on federal terrorism charges.___Associated Press writers Bradley Klapper, Mary Clare Jalonick, Andrew Taylor, Deb Riechmann and Alan Fram contributed.-- (c) Associated Press 2015-11-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Until all travel documents will get sorted out and proven to 100% bona fied and correct, all 'refugees' from Syria should be paused indefinitely.... even the risk of one terrorist coming in under the guise of a refugee, make it ok to be extra careful.. have you all forgotten 9/11 already and the patriot act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSully Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 As usual.. xenophobes and racists will use the data to exploit their agenda no matter what the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And it is not just Republicans ... Americans who have no political alignment, people registered as Independent and even some politicians who are Democrat are against bringing in these so called 'refugees' who will likely have some radical Islamist among them. Not to mention the disaffected and malcontent who can easily be recruited by the likes of ISIS ... These guys photos below - refugees - killed and maimed Americas when they bombed the Boston Marathon a few years ago ... AND they were on a terrorist watch list ... And Obama and the deranged Democrat Party want to bring in thousands then tens of thousands of Syrians - who are not vetted -- and cannot easily be vetted - because they either have no documents or they threw them away ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMNightRider Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. ........and how very naive of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The difficulties between the US government and the Assad government are government to government, with little involvement with the people. A significant number of the Syrian refugees are Syrian Kurds and they are very much pro-US. The number of refugees is set and people might want to consider whether having middle class Syrians with an education are preferable to the next wave of fighting from somewhere in the interior of Africa. Or maybe some Afghanis, or Pakistani's. The politicizing of the situation may not have a positive result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It won't be too long before the Democrat leadership including Hillary will fully realize that if even ONE Serious terrorist attack occurs in the U.S. in the next 11 months done by stealth ISIS fighters hiding in the refugee hoard - that it will mean a total 50 state Landslide for Republicans come the November 2016 Presidential Elections. And even without such an occurrence of terrorism - the overwhelming voter resistance to allowing the Syrian 'refugee' in to the U.S. will cause a 'RE-THINK' on the part of the Democrats. I think the Dems will join in with House Speaker Ryan and call for a 'pause' in the acceptance of 'refugees' from Syria and most any other Islamic country ... until after the elections. One thing about American Politicians - they want to be elected and re-elected. In a run up to a National Election in November 2016 - Members of the U.S. House of Representatives will be up for election for another two year term of office. And in the Senate - about 1/3 are up for re-election and for both Houses of Congress - there are the Primary Elections to face this Spring 2016... Watch and see how things change... despite what Obama wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And it is not just Republicans ... Americans who have no political alignment, people registered as Independent and even some politicians who are Democrat are against bringing in these so called 'refugees' who will likely have some radical Islamist among them. Not to mention the disaffected and malcontent who can easily be recruited by the likes of ISIS ... These guys photos below - refugees - killed and maimed Americas when they bombed the Boston Marathon a few years ago ... AND they were on a terrorist watch list ... And Obama and the deranged Democrat Party want to bring in thousands then tens of thousands of Syrians - who are not vetted -- and cannot easily be vetted - because they either have no documents or they threw them away ... FB_IMG_1447802695427.jpg Oh wow. An Internet meme. That settles it then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. It does not have much to do with being Christian, but the Christian refugees are just as desperate as the Muslims and a LOT less likely to be hiding radical Muslim terrorists amongst them. It is a matter of self-defense. Edited November 18, 2015 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Knee jerk reactions like this were so predictable. Worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And it is not just Republicans ... Americans who have no political alignment, people registered as Independent and even some politicians who are Democrat are against bringing in these so called 'refugees' who will likely have some radical Islamist among them. Not to mention the disaffected and malcontent who can easily be recruited by the likes of ISIS ... These guys photos below - refugees - killed and maimed Americas when they bombed the Boston Marathon a few years ago ... AND they were on a terrorist watch list ... And Obama and the deranged Democrat Party want to bring in thousands then tens of thousands of Syrians - who are not vetted -- and cannot easily be vetted - because they either have no documents or they threw them away ... FB_IMG_1447802695427.jpg Oh wow. An Internet meme. That settles it then! Not a meme - except for the gullible who believe in fairy tails that the refugees are all innocent boy scouts and girl scouts. It has been proven to the satisfaction of French authorities that at least one of the Paris Terrorists entered hiding as a refugee. It is a FACT - Hungarian officials verified in public announcements that the refugees they processed very often did not have ID documents ... Reports from Greece and several other countries tell of finding ID documents that had been thrown away... Google a while and see... oh but perhaps you are of those who only believe what supports your POV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 TV Station Poll... Illinois, USA http://wqad.com/2015/11/16/poll-should-the-u-s-accepting-syrian-refugees-or-not/ Thank you for voting! No, there is too much potential risk to the security of Americans. 72.62% (1,244 votes) Yes; we should not let fear stop us from helping refugees who need us. 24.64% (422 votes) It should be a state-by-state decision. 2.39% (41 votes) Don't know or don't care. 0.35% (6 votes) Total Votes: 1,713 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. ........and how very naive of you. What would baby Jesus do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 He would cast a magic spell on the Muslims, so they would not kill anyone, but he is probably not real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. Only let the atheists come I say. The religious are nothing but trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 A post disrespecting the President of the USA has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And it is not just Republicans ... Americans who have no political alignment, people registered as Independent and even some politicians who are Democrat are against bringing in these so called 'refugees' who will likely have some radical Islamist among them. Not to mention the disaffected and malcontent who can easily be recruited by the likes of ISIS ... These guys photos below - refugees - killed and maimed Americas when they bombed the Boston Marathon a few years ago ... AND they were on a terrorist watch list ... And Obama and the deranged Democrat Party want to bring in thousands then tens of thousands of Syrians - who are not vetted -- and cannot easily be vetted - because they either have no documents or they threw them away ... FB_IMG_1447802695427.jpg Oh wow. An Internet meme. That settles it then! Not a meme - except for the gullible who believe in fairy tails that the refugees are all innocent boy scouts and girl scouts. It has been proven to the satisfaction of French authorities that at least one of the Paris Terrorists entered hiding as a refugee. It is a FACT - Hungarian officials verified in public announcements that the refugees they processed very often did not have ID documents ... Reports from Greece and several other countries tell of finding ID documents that had been thrown away... Google a while and see... oh but perhaps you are of those who only believe what supports your POV... What, that the Syrian passport found on him was a fake? All designed to get the caged wingnuts to go apesiht. Clearly it has worked. I swear, if the Jedi mind trick was real, you'd be an easy victim. I'm sure Achmed the bomber checked for his keys, wallet, eplosive vest, kalashnikov, before he left, but turned around and went back in the house - oh yes, musn't forget my passport - when he was on his was to the Stade de France... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And it is not just Republicans ... Americans who have no political alignment, people registered as Independent and even some politicians who are Democrat are against bringing in these so called 'refugees' who will likely have some radical Islamist among them. Not to mention the disaffected and malcontent who can easily be recruited by the likes of ISIS ... These guys photos below - refugees - killed and maimed Americas when they bombed the Boston Marathon a few years ago ... AND they were on a terrorist watch list ... And Obama and the deranged Democrat Party want to bring in thousands then tens of thousands of Syrians - who are not vetted -- and cannot easily be vetted - because they either have no documents or they threw them away ... FB_IMG_1447802695427.jpg Oh wow. An Internet meme. That settles it then! Not a meme - except for the gullible who believe in fairy tails that the refugees are all innocent boy scouts and girl scouts. It has been proven to the satisfaction of French authorities that at least one of the Paris Terrorists entered hiding as a refugee. It is a FACT - Hungarian officials verified in public announcements that the refugees they processed very often did not have ID documents ... Reports from Greece and several other countries tell of finding ID documents that had been thrown away... Google a while and see... oh but perhaps you are of those who only believe what supports your POV... What, that the Syrian passport found on him was a fake? All designed to get the caged wingnuts to go apesiht. Clearly it has worked. I swear, if the Jedi mind trick was real, you'd be an easy victim. I'm sure Achmed the bomber checked for his keys, wallet, eplosive vest, kalashnikov, before he left, but turned around and went back in the house - oh yes, musn't forget my passport - when he was on his was to the Stade de France... As it turns out -- while maybe not fake it was used by 6 others who came from Syria... and they could be just innocent lambs or ISIS - no one knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them.I suggest opening them again albeit briefly to kick out undesirables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Weren't the Boston Bombers refugees? Edited November 18, 2015 by Mosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 "Economic migrants and potential Islamic terrorists" please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It is very disturbing when politicians play the racist card to win elections. Demagogues have done so before in history with frightening results. Sad to see it happening in the USA. I hope voters can see through the charlatans. Very interesting article on the subject from the BBC Paris attacks: Why is 1939 invoked in Syrian refugee debate? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34849891 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMNightRider Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. ........and how very naive of you. What would baby Jesus do? Why don't you hold that thought and ask him when you meet him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Christian rufugees are welcome. After that, shut the Gates and lock them. How very Christian of you. I fully agree with Ulysses G. and I am Atheist.....(would also let in Syrian Atheist, Buddhists, Hindu, but I doubt there are many). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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