"So,we had the Sinclair C5,Rover Jet Car ,the Rotary Engine,Toyota Prius.."

What was the "flop" element of the rotary engine and the still in production Prius?

The Rover was a prototype that never went into production so again hardly a flop. Do all the other prototype or experimental cars ever made by every manufacturer count as flops also?

Ive enjoyed the Rotary road NSU and Mazda very much,but the public didnt care for them .How the hell can you use a Tesler in say Alaska or Norway in the Winter months,You need a bucket of Kilowatts to warm it up.Seems these Battery Rides are restricted to warm climes. Just my thoughts,lets here more verdicts . .

Sales figures of an up market electric car in Alaska are not exactly indicative of a flop or otherwise. I imagine a Tesla with the appropriate tyres could be used anywhere any other car could be used and you may be surprised at the number of areas in Alaska that have electricity.

I like the Allegro. It had its flaws, but at least it wasn't boring.

Especially when you jacked it up in the wrong place.

Morris Marina...........

BL paid an Italian designer to make it look 'trendy', he did his bit and renamed it the Morris Ital....It was still...

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The second best selling British Leyland car next to the Mini, what a flop.

Don't start with a S if you want a hit.

Correct Jitar,

My first boss told me never to buy or sell a car with the name starting with S.

I don't think he was too far wrong.

My English isnt good to work this S thing out. Sunbeam wasnt a flop or most on the list.

TT Sunbeam's were pretty good in their day and the Tiger was alright, but I reckon most of the others were pretty ordinary Ace.

I served my apprenticeship on Chrysler, Hillman, Sunbeam and Talbot Alpines. Yep, they were ordinary alright.

Morris Marina...........

BL paid an Italian designer to make it look 'trendy', he did his bit and renamed it the Morris Ital....It was still...

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The second best selling British Leyland car next to the Mini, what a flop.

What else was there in the price range.........?

Cortina, Escort, Triumph 1300/Dolomite, Hillman Hunter, Avenger, Viva, Victor...

Best comment so far. Its Old, the Tornadoes recorded Telstar years ago..The Expat Lot dont think much of it..Too Expensive, be Another Barn Find eventually, no nice Sound,cant fill up n go. ATree Hugger thingy, so no support found today.

"So,we had the Sinclair C5,Rover Jet Car ,the Rotary Engine,Toyota Prius.."

What was the "flop" element of the rotary engine and the still in production Prius?

The Rover was a prototype that never went into production so again hardly a flop. Do all the other prototype or experimental cars ever made by every manufacturer count as flops also?

Yes

In London Terms its a Lame ...Kin Duck. As will be proved i recon. 4Brits n 1Norway geezer n me dont rate it. Can see Women bothering with an Electric Cable these day.They shy away from a Hoover.

The infamous Austin Allegro, affectionately called the "All Agro"..

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Wonder who dreamed up the square steering wheel ? all these years later and no one I can think of have ever followed on with square/oblong steering wheels on a normal road car.

Maybe some here are to young ? so here is a picture

In London Terms its a Lame ...Kin Duck. As will be proved i recon. 4Brits n 1Norway geezer n me dont rate it. Can see Women bothering with an Electric Cable these day.They shy away from a Hoover.

Could you give us a clue what you're talking about perhaps?

No

The infamous Austin Allegro, affectionately called the "All Agro"..

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Wonder who dreamed up the square steering wheel ? all these years later and no one I can think of have ever followed on with square/oblong steering wheels on a normal road car.

Maybe some here are to young ? so here is a picture

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. Donald Healy for fat people in small sports cars

The infamous Austin Allegro, affectionately called the "All Agro"..

allegro.jpg

Wonder who dreamed up the square steering wheel ? all these years later and no one I can think of have ever followed on with square/oblong steering wheels on a normal road car.

Maybe some here are to young ? so here is a picture

Austin_Allegro_Interior_with_Quartic_steering_wheel.jpg

D Shape steering wheels are pretty fashionable now so I suppose Austin got 1 side out of 4 right.

Sunbeam, Singer, even Hillman were all Routes brands, fink it was Chrysler who bought the lot and discontinued the names.

During the transition stage they used the Rootes name and Chrysler together. The switchboard girls at that time would answer your phone call with "Chrysler Rootes Australia, what number please?"

Toyota have sold millions of Priuses (prii?)

This thread is a pretty spectacular flop.

Well a flop in the handling stakes. They really don't like going around corners.

Toyota have sold millions of Priuses (prii?)

This thread is a pretty spectacular flop.

Well a flop in the handling stakes. They really don't like going around corners.

I doubt that cornering at speed was part of the design brief somehow.

G.M.s 61 Corvair with the Rear Engine was a total flop.Air Cooled and useless on bendy roads,but fun to drive as a kid.

Sunbeam, Singer, even Hillman were all Routes brands, fink it was Chrysler who bought the lot and discontinued the names.

During the transition stage they used the Rootes name and Chrysler together. The switchboard girls at that time would answer your phone call with "Chrysler Rootes Australia, what number please?"

I didn't know Chrysler rooted Australia.

Sunbeam, Singer, even Hillman were all Routes brands, fink it was Chrysler who bought the lot and discontinued the names.

During the transition stage they used the Rootes name and Chrysler together. The switchboard girls at that time would answer your phone call with "Chrysler Rootes Australia, what number please?"

I didn't know Chrysler rooted Australia.

Australia's rooted but not by Chrysler.

Chrysler made some OK cars + some duds, lost some cash and pulled out, leaving the market to others like Mitsubishi

Mitsubishi made some cars! lost some cash and pulled out, leaving the market to others like Ford, Holden and Toyota.

Ford and Holden made some OK cars + some duds, Toyota did what they do, they all lost some cash and .....

You get the idea.

Sunbeam, Singer, even Hillman were all Routes brands, fink it was Chrysler who bought the lot and discontinued the names.

During the transition stage they used the Rootes name and Chrysler together. The switchboard girls at that time would answer your phone call with "Chrysler Rootes Australia, what number please?"

I didn't know Chrysler rooted Australia.

Australia's rooted but not by Chrysler.

Chrysler made some OK cars + some duds, lost some cash and pulled out, leaving the market to others like Mitsubishi

Mitsubishi made some cars! lost some cash and pulled out, leaving the market to others like Ford, Holden and Toyota.

Ford and Holden made some OK cars + some duds, Toyota did what they do, they all lost some cash and .....

You get the idea.

After 45 years in the business, owning Dealerships, Distributorships, Importing & Exporting cars all over the world, I think I have a reasonable idea Jitar.

But thanks anyway.

Woodsie, I was making a light hearted remark. I don't know your back ground and aren't implying anything about your knowledge.

Considering the slang meaning of Roots in Australia, It's amazing Chrysler were so out of touch to use the "Chrysler Rootes Australia" line BSJ mentioned.

Woodsie, I was making a light hearted remark. I don't know your back ground and aren't implying anything about your knowledge.

Considering the slang meaning of Roots in Australia, It's amazing Chrysler were so out of touch to use the "Chrysler Rootes Australia" line BSJ mentioned.

No offence taken Jitar, as I do respect your frequent input.

Like you, my comment was supposed to be light hearted. As an Antipodean, I do know the meaning of roots and am quite surprised I'm the only one who picked up on the irony of the Telephonist's greeting given the demise of Chrysler in Australia.

Perhaps she should have said 'Welcome to Chrysler being helped on its way by Rootes'.

Ah, the old P38.

Perfect example of the title.

Brilliant but a spectacular flop.

Woodsie, I was making a light hearted remark. I don't know your back ground and aren't implying anything about your knowledge.

Considering the slang meaning of Roots in Australia, It's amazing Chrysler were so out of touch to use the "Chrysler Rootes Australia" line BSJ mentioned.

No offence taken Jitar, as I do respect your frequent input.

Like you, my comment was supposed to be light hearted. As an Antipodean, I do know the meaning of roots and am quite surprised I'm the only one who picked up on the irony of the Telephonist's greeting given the demise of Chrysler in Australia.

Perhaps she should have said 'Welcome to Chrysler being helped on its way by Rootes'. [/quote. Why are You Anti Pod.?.we have one in our Mango tree,eats shoots n leaves.

Perfect example of the title.

Brilliant but a spectacular flop.

Could carry a 44 gallon drum in the boot too.

We called them P38's coz they were only half a car.

Actually the V8 manual went like a rocket.

Perfect example of the title.

Brilliant but a spectacular flop.

Could carry a 44 gallon drum in the boot too.

We called them P38's coz they were only half a car.

Actually the V8 manual went like a rocket.

Yep I had one ~25 years ago so I heard the P38 line many, many times.

That was one car that was all substance and no style, definitely not purchased for the image.

It was also the final Nail in Leyland Australia's coffin.