Who Guards The Most Sacred Site In Christendom?

[TuskegeeBen]

JERUSALEM — Every Christian knows the holiest places in Christendom are in Jerusalem. The holiest of all, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, was erected in 325, over the site where it is believed Jesus was crucified, buried and rose from the dead.

Yet, few know that it is a Muslim who opens and closes the only door to this holiest of Christian sites.

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-guards-most-sacred-site-christendom-two-muslims-1161517

[TuskegeeBen]

There's no better wake-up call than the Plain Truth. Merry Christmas & Happy New Years 2016.

Edited December 11, 2015 by TuskegeeBen

[StreetCowboy]

God is everywhere. He doesn't need "Holy Places", and nor do people of faith.

SC

[AyG]

God is everywhere. He doesn't need "Holy Places", and nor do people of faith.

SC

You mistyped. It's "nowhere", not "everywhere".

[robblok]

God is everywhere. He doesn't need "Holy Places", and nor do people of faith.

SC

You mistyped. It's "nowhere", not "everywhere".

The only thing that makes sense is atheism. Religions do more harm as good.

[canuckamuck]

Not a holy place, simply a historically significant location. There is nothing in Christianity that suggests venerating patches of real estate.

With the possible exception of the deep interior of the two ancient temples and Moses' Tabernacle, but they are gone now.

[Crazy chef 1]

Why not??? We are all gods children...

[TuskegeeBen]

FYI ~ The purpose of the OP is to offset the general notion that Islam is diabolically opposed to Christianity, and that Muslims are committing acts of terrorism against Christian/Judaic-based institutions. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The Plain Truth fact is that Muslims have historically served, more as neutral referees, in keeping the peace among the multitudes of warring Christian faith denominations. The carnage that Christian Crusaders visited against each other (in the name of God ), in their different claims of possessing the right to ownership of the Holy Sepulchre, in the first place.

When the Persian King Saladin ended the Christian Kingdoms reign of Jerusalem in 1187, the Christians returned to Europe, where they immediately continued their blood-letting against each other, for the next 350 years.

Timothy McVey (the Oklahoma City bomber) was just one of many (home-grown American Christian militia vigilante terror group members) who just happened to get caught. Neither God, nor the Muslims, have (had) anything to do with that insane (Jihad) Christian behavior. The vast majority of ISIL terrorism victims are other Muslims, not Christians or Jews.

Click, then read the OP link provided, and please reply (if you must) with a focus directly related to the topic context. The OP thread topic is not about any god, or religion. Perhaps the thinkers on the forum can discern the rest of the story. Thank you

Edited December 12, 2015 by TuskegeeBen

[canuckamuck]

The article is interesting for history of the place; but is a giant leap to imply, from this one tradition, that Islam is a peace keeping referee. It is another extraordinary leap to use Timothy McVey as a representative of Christians.

poor effort all around.

[TuskegeeBen]

The article is interesting for history of the place; but is a giant leap to imply, from this one tradition, that Islam is a peace keeping referee. It is another extraordinary leap to use Timothy McVey as a representative of Christians.

poor effort all around.

Never a mention about Islam Obviously, your reading comprehension skills are top-shelf. Thank you, for your most positive contribution to the thread. I'm sure the vast majority of other readers will concur with your point view! Sorry that you just did not get the Plain English point, regarding the blanket prejudice displayed toward the general Muslim population. The point of referring to the McVey constituency, was to denote that terrorists come from no particular religion or culture base, but will conveniently use religion, as a platform excuse for their actions.

If you disagree with any particular point of the thread, then post a positive, contributing addition, or alternative point of view. Assuming you possess the ability to do so. Happy Holidays to you, sir!

Moving progressively along

Edited December 12, 2015 by TuskegeeBen

[TuskegeeBen]

The article is interesting for history of the place; but is a giant leap to imply, from this one tradition, that Islam is a peace keeping referee. It is another extraordinary leap to use Timothy McVey as a representative of Christians.

poor effort all around.

Edited December 12, 2015 by TuskegeeBen

[StreetCowboy]

The article is interesting for history of the place; but is a giant leap to imply, from this one tradition, that Islam is a peace keeping referee. It is another extraordinary leap to use Timothy McVey as a representative of Christians.

poor effort all around.

Never a mention about Islam Obviously, your reading comprehension skills are top-shelf. Thank you, for your most positive contribution to the thread. I'm sure the vast majority of other readers will concur with your point view! Sorry that you just did not get the Plain English point, regarding the blanket prejudice displayed toward the general Muslim population. The point of referring to the McVey constituency, was to denote that terrorists come from no particular religion or culture base, but will conveniently use religion, as a platform excuse for their actions.

If you disagree with any particular point of the thread, then post a positive, contributing addition, or alternative point of view. Assuming you possess the ability to do so. Happy Holidays to you, sir!

Moving progressively along

A friend of mine suggested that they would more effectively reduce terrorism in the USA by closing the borders of North Carolina.

[TuskegeeBen]

If you cannot contribute an "on topic" alternative thinking post to the thread, then why bother to post anything at all? Just ignore the OP topic, if you disagree, then move on. The Farang "one-up-manship game" playing posts, so prevalent on this platform, is totally absurd. Give it a rest, for heaven sake, and for a change. Please!

For example: "Thanks for sharing that info. I'm sure that's news to many people. However, I fail to understand how the Timothy McVey story relates to the topic. Can you elaborate on that point?"

Definitely, yes, as this is a topic debate forum ~ Capiche?

Edited December 12, 2015 by TuskegeeBen

[canuckamuck]

OP, it is your thread, but you did bring Islam and Mcvey into the discussion ( See your post #8). Why do you now criticize people for discussing your contribution?

[CharlieH]

By all means debate/discuss the subject matter, but any further "personal" remarks will lead to this thread being CLOSED.

7) You will respect fellow members and post in a civil manner. No personal attacks, hateful or insulting towards other members, (flaming) Stalking of members on either the forum or via PM will not be allowed.

[benalibina]

The "enemy" is within.

[slipperylobster]

Not a holy place, simply a historically significant location. There is nothing in Christianity that suggests venerating patches of real estate.

With the possible exception of the deep interior of the two ancient temples and Moses' Tabernacle, but they are gone now.

No holyland?

Not Christendom. Jesus and Israel were Jewish. All that came later..."Christianity".

The place where Christ was buried was a Jewish grave site...not a Christian one. As was his burial. His whole life was with the Jewish people...and he lived by their rules, as well as by Roman rule.

Yes..much later..a christian church was built....for a Jewish man who was placed underneath.

Basically...A muslim is guarding a door to a christian church for a jewish man who was buried on Jewish land in a Jewish manner.

The holyland...refers to Israel....the Chosen people.... Jesus was of the house of David (Star of David is a Symbol of...Israel)

It's all so confusing anyways.....so why not have a muslim there as well. But of course, that religion was 800 years later.

As for us Christians...here is what Jesus would tell his apostles...

"Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and do not go into any town of the Samaritans 6but rather only go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel". (Matthew 10:5-6)

Edited December 12, 2015 by slipperylobster

[StreetCowboy]

Not a holy place, simply a historically significant location. There is nothing in Christianity that suggests venerating patches of real estate.

With the possible exception of the deep interior of the two ancient temples and Moses' Tabernacle, but they are gone now.

No holyland?

Not Christendom. Jesus and Israel were Jewish. All that came later..."Christianity".

The place where Christ was buried was a Jewish grave site...not a Christian one. As was his burial. His whole life was with the Jewish people...and he lived by their rules, as well as by Roman rule.

Yes..much later..a christian church was built....for a Jewish man who was placed underneath.

Basically...A muslim is guarding a door to a christian church for a jewish man who was buried on Jewish land in a Jewish manner.

The holyland...refers to Israel....the Chosen people.... Jesus was of the house of David (Star of David is a Symbol of...Israel)

It's all so confusing anyways.....so why not have a muslim there as well. But of course, that religion was 800 years later.

As for us Christians...here is what Jesus would tell his apostles...

"Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and do not go into any town of the Samaritans 6but rather only go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel". (Matthew 10:5-6)

I think that was tactical advice, not strategic

[TuskegeeBen]

Apparently my OP "poor effort all around" was also an effort in futility, all around . Please close the thread. Thank you. Happy Holidays.

[CharlieH]

CLOSED on request