snoop1130 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 PM shrugs off Pheu Thai party’s idea that he heads national governmentThai PBS THAILAND -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha said today (Tuesday) that he preferred to stay home to raise his grandchildren to accepting a Pheu Thai party’s core member’s offer of premiership to lead a national government.Mr Preecha Rengsomboonsuk, a core member of the Pheu Thai party, recently floated an idea of national government with Prime Minister Prayut leading the government.“No. I will not be a prime minister for any politician. I would like to confirm right here that I will not (accept the offer). Do I have thepower to order them (politicians)? Why should I become their nominee?”The prime minister said he would better stay home to raise his grandchildren. But when asked by a reporter whether he has already had grandchildren, he said he has many grandchildren of his subordinates.Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan, meanwhile, said he was not aware of such idea but pointed out that it was a matter to be discussed among political parties.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/video-pm-shrugs-off-pheu-thai-partys-idea-that-he-heads-national-government -- Thai PBS 2015-12-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 However his word is not exactly something you can take to the bank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 However his word is not exactly something you can take to the bank... Which he actually just proved in that small interview. "I'll stay at home and raise my grand kids." "Ahh so you have grand kids then?" "Ummm, no actually...umm..my 'subordinates' grand kids, yeah....I'll raise them..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 "No. I will not be a prime minister for any politician. I would like to confirm right here that I will not (accept the offer). Do I have thepower to order them (politicians)? Why should I become their nominee?" Nothing more needs to be said. It's all about power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Because they are same same but different (uniforms and suits is about the only real difference) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time?Because they want to?Feel free to start your own thread based on your suspicions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsmith Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 He may as well be the Pheu Thai front man, he's been on their team all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Well criticizing the self-appointed "PM" really isn't much of a sport is it? So why indeed, it gets boring and repetitive with the same-old same-old, megalomaniac, but not-that-bright, all-powerful-article-44, so called "leader" and democratic-soldier... We so seldom agree, this is a real pleasure... So, your point about PTP - or at least this particular member - is dead-on right. This is butt kissing and boot-licking at an extreme ... at least if it was an even half-way serious proposal. (there is a possibility that he was just pandering to the General's ego, but ... ). Thaksin has proven himself worthless to the cause of democracy time and time again - even when handed opportunities on a golden platter... so it is either a stupid strategic manoeuvre by the PTP, a blatant lick on the boot, or a Christmas joke being played on the self-appointed ruler... Personally, my money is on the first or the second option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Because, even though he appointed himself PM, he can stand there with a straight face and say, "I won't be a part of this government". Because he just refused an olive branch from the opposition. Because the way he said (and most everything) proves that he's a buffoon. It's why he has to make a "List of Achievements" speech instead of a "State of The Union" address. There is no union nor unity, which is what a true leader does (bring people together for the common good). He just has Farcebookers in jail. Edited December 22, 2015 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Well said three times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time?Reverse psychology.Why would he subject himself to a vote, where he would lose face, when he already owns the position through use of force. Although I can picture him singing " I'm leavin', on a jet plane, will be back in 3 years to stage a coup again". Edited December 22, 2015 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time?Reverse psychology.Why would he subject himself to a vote, where he would lose face, when he already owns the position through use of force. Although I can picture him singing " I'm leavin', on a jet plane, will be back in 3 years to stage a coup again". I seriously doubt that Thailand has sufficiently outgrown the plague of "curruptionism" (as GW Bush would say) to have free and fair erections. They are hooked on the viagra of vote buying. A thug to take over was needed IMHO, but why is he so bent on turning down, what appears to be an offer of a move towards reconciliation? And why is it, that every time he says something, the most moronic things imaginable spew forth? Lee Kuan Yew he is NOT. Even Pinochet was better than this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 NCPO spurns national unity govt proposalTHE NATION PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERSBANGKOK: -- PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday rejected a proposal to form a national-unity government, saying his government would adhere to its political road map.Preecha Rengsomboonsuk, a leading member of the Pheu Thai Party, had proposed setting up a national-unity government giving all members of the political spectrum a chance to join hands to tackle national problems and create reconciliation within the Kingdom.A source in Pheu Thai said yesterday that the idea did not represent the party, but was Preecha's own idea.Prayut said he did not want to be prime minister in a unity government because he expected that no one would obey him."Never! I won't be the prime minister for any politician. I hereby affirm that I won't," Prayut said."If I am the prime minister for a national-unity government, will I be able to give orders to them? So why should I be their representative?"Prayut also noted that Pheu Thai had rejected the idea when it was in government.Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan, who is widely regarded as second-in-command of the ruling National Council for Peace and Order, said a unity government was not needed because the NCPO was still implementing its political agenda."The road map has not been completed yet," Prawit said.National Legislative Assembly (NLA) president Pornpetch Wichitcholchai said the interim government set up by the NCPO had a clear-cut road map for carrying out political reforms, so he did not understand why a national-unity government had been proposed.He added that it would be fine if the next constitution had a clause to allow the establishment of a unity government in times of crisis.Pornpetch said the so-called "five rivers" - the NCPO, the Cabinet, the NLA, the Constitution Drafting Commission (CDC) and the National Reform Steering Council (NRSC) - were already trying to bring about unity and reconciliation in the country.Regarding Pheu Thai's call for a blanket political amnesty as a condition for creating reconciliation and unity, Pornpetch said such an amnesty would have to be decided by an elected government.Meanwhile, Seri Suwanphanon, chairman of the NRSC panel on political reform, warned the NCPO not to be tempted by Preecha's proposal.Seri said that if the NCPO agreed with the proposal, opponents would use it as a campaign to protest against the junta on the grounds that it intended to remain in power.CDC chairman Meechai Ruchupan declined yesterday to comment on the proposal, saying he did not know the details.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NCPO-spurns-national-unity-govt-proposal-30275469.html-- The Nation 2015-12-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time?Reverse psychology.Why would he subject himself to a vote, where he would lose face, when he already owns the position through use of force. Although I can picture him singing " I'm leavin', on a jet plane, will be back in 3 years to stage a coup again". Haha, although by that time he might actually be busy raising his grandchildren. No worries, they have plenty of other generals to stage a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarathi Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 General Prayuth expects to run his own 'National Unity Govt.' of nominees, when a national crisis occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 If you lie down with dogs, expect to get up with fleas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERS see, there you have it. He's not a democratic soldier, ... he's just a soldier. He gives the orders, the others take it the way he serves it up. Period. This kind of answer shows 2 things 1) that he understands nothing about politics and democracy, and 2) that he thinks the PTP offer is not in good faith, and that it is just an effort to entrap him... I'm certain that he understands nothing of politics and democracy. He's proven that again and again. I think it is likely that this offer from PTP is not genuine or is just sucking up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERS see, there you have it. He's not a democratic soldier, ... he's just a soldier. He gives the orders, the others take it the way he serves it up. Period. This kind of answer shows 2 things 1) that he understands nothing about politics and democracy, and 2) that he thinks the PTP offer is not in good faith, and that it is just an effort to entrap him... I'm certain that he understands nothing of politics and democracy. He's proven that again and again. I think it is likely that this offer from PTP is not genuine or is just sucking up... OTOH PTP MPs were quite free to vote any way they wished. On one controversial bill, someone went as far as to abstain. No report was given on the effect on his monthly stipend for being a member of and obeying party rules. Edited December 22, 2015 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERS see, there you have it. He's not a democratic soldier, ... he's just a soldier. He gives the orders, the others take it the way he serves it up. Period. This kind of answer shows 2 things 1) that he understands nothing about politics and democracy, and 2) that he thinks the PTP offer is not in good faith, and that it is just an effort to entrap him... I'm certain that he understands nothing of politics and democracy. He's proven that again and again. I think it is likely that this offer from PTP is not genuine or is just sucking up... OTOH PTP MPs were quite free to vote any way they wished. On one controversial bill, someone went as far as to abstain. No report was given on the effect on his monthly stipend for being a member of and obeying party rules. Of course PTP is hardly unique in this case. The world over you see MP's voting party line, otherwise countries would simply be not governable. Certainly in countries where the government du jour has a very narrow margin. How this is relevant to Prayuth wanting to give orders to ministers is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERS see, there you have it. He's not a democratic soldier, ... he's just a soldier. He gives the orders, the others take it the way he serves it up. Period. This kind of answer shows 2 things 1) that he understands nothing about politics and democracy, and 2) that he thinks the PTP offer is not in good faith, and that it is just an effort to entrap him... I'm certain that he understands nothing of politics and democracy. He's proven that again and again. I think it is likely that this offer from PTP is not genuine or is just sucking up... OTOH PTP MPs were quite free to vote any way they wished. On one controversial bill, someone went as far as to abstain. No report was given on the effect on his monthly stipend for being a member of and obeying party rules. Of course PTP is hardly unique in this case. The world over you see MP's voting party line, otherwise countries would simply be not governable. Certainly in countries where the government du jour has a very narrow margin. How this is relevant to Prayuth wanting to give orders to ministers is beyond me. How many MPs the world over are PAID to be members of their party, selling their vote to the party head? If you somehow missed Thaksin giving orders to PTP ministers, it would have to be deliberate./ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryle Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why would he want the job he's making good tea money for the whole family for generations to come. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Mr Preecha Rengsomboonsuk must surely have been pulling someone's leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Can you trust this guy who even lie about his grandchildren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The real power and not him will decide if they want a National Government. Their wallets are shrinking with this disaster of the economy and a National Government can't be discounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren84310 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time? Because they are same same but different (uniforms and suits is about the only real difference) Because this is just one PT MP and possibly a turn coat who has been encouraged to say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why are so many criticising the PM instead of wondering what weird trick the PTP are trying this time?Reverse psychology.Why would he subject himself to a vote, where he would lose face, when he already owns the position through use of force. Although I can picture him singing " I'm leavin', on a jet plane, will be back in 3 years to stage a coup again". I seriously doubt that Thailand has sufficiently outgrown the plague of "curruptionism" (as GW Bush would say) to have free and fair erections. They are hooked on the viagra of vote buying. A thug to take over was needed IMHO, but why is he so bent on turning down, what appears to be an offer of a move towards reconciliation? And why is it, that every time he says something, the most moronic things imaginable spew forth? Lee Kuan Yew he is NOT. Even Pinochet was better than this guy. I would imagine PTP's idea of a National Government would be a way of them getting back some power and seats at the trough. They could then work on the PM and others with little side deals. "Of course you can lead this National Government sir, We just want to be part of it. Oh, and of course our party owner and boss needs to be back. He's promised to stay out of politics, but of course wants to help reconcile everything. Perhaps some nice honor type position representing the country, you know, that sort of thing. We called all have an amnesty, kiss and make up". Proven liars don't stop lying - thin end of the wedge with them, as always, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 PM SAYS HE WILL NOT HEAD ADMINISTRATION OF POLITICIANS THAT MAY NOT OBEY HIS ORDERS see, there you have it. He's not a democratic soldier, ... he's just a soldier. He gives the orders, the others take it the way he serves it up. Period. This kind of answer shows 2 things 1) that he understands nothing about politics and democracy, and 2) that he thinks the PTP offer is not in good faith, and that it is just an effort to entrap him... I'm certain that he understands nothing of politics and democracy. He's proven that again and again. I think it is likely that this offer from PTP is not genuine or is just sucking up... OTOH PTP MPs were quite free to vote any way they wished. On one controversial bill, someone went as far as to abstain. No report was given on the effect on his monthly stipend for being a member of and obeying party rules. Of course PTP is hardly unique in this case. The world over you see MP's voting party line, otherwise countries would simply be not governable. Certainly in countries where the government du jour has a very narrow margin. How this is relevant to Prayuth wanting to give orders to ministers is beyond me. How many MPs the world over are PAID to be members of their party, selling their vote to the party head? If you somehow missed Thaksin giving orders to PTP ministers, it would have to be deliberate./ Oh you would be surprised... and a but Thaksin post to boost, nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 However his word is not exactly something you can take to the bank... Which he actually just proved in that small interview. "I'll stay at home and raise my grand kids." "Ahh so you have grand kids then?" "Ummm, no actually...umm..my 'subordinates' grand kids, yeah....I'll raise them..." Thai have this 'extended family' concept. Even I seem to be grandfather to many kids and after a while one will even make an effort not to disappoint them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 "Mr Preecha Rengsomboonsuk, a core member of the Pheu Thai party, recently floated an idea of national government with Prime Minister Prayut leading the government." While the usual posters like to use the topic to bring some humour to the issue, most seem to forget that 'as all know' 'we' do not want non-elected PMs. So why did this gentleman from Pheu Thai float this distasteful idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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