Briton arrested in Chiang Mai with child pornography

[mikosan]

I am going to play devils advocate here. Surely this scenario could be possible for anyone sharing a network. So basically any person that is using your internet connection could be the culprit.

I have some knowledge about the investigation of issues like this and whilst what you say is absolutely true, you will notice that the report states the pictures were found on 'HIS' computer hard drive. Whilst I guess his wife could have stored them there, it seems rather unlikely, but that would be part of the further investigation. The identification of the user of an IP address will identify the person who holds the Internet account to which that IP address was allocated at the time and date in question and their location. Further investigation is necessary to identify the person downloading or posting the pictures, or whatever it is. It would be very difficult, for example, to identify a culprit in a bar that has free wifi access, especially one with a transient clientele. On those occasions further investigations would be necessary. CCTV may assist, or, without going into any great detail, there are ways of identifying specific computers or devices that access the internet and often that data is collected by the service providers.

In this case, on the face of it, I'd chance my luck and say they'd got the right man and may he rot in hell, after the correct judicial process has been followed, of course and the Police have proved, beyond reasonable doubt, that they have the right man. I assume they use 'beyond reasonable doubt' here in Thailand?

Edited January 7, 2016 by mikosan

[Daniel Boon]

Lead projectile behind right ear

[Youaredoomed]

Once again the armchair sadists rant as to the torture they'd do on another human being without even the guy being convicted. I wish TV wouldn't post stories like this as it achieves nothing but provide an outlet for sadists.

The photos might be nothing more than Bilitis type ie legal. Of course, some on here would castrate David Hamilton.

Sadists? I'd say the 'sadists' are the vile deviants who peddle this filth and pose a threat to innocent kids.

[thaibeachlovers]

I heard BKK and CM were #1 and #2 for human trafficking in all of Asia.........and then we have child predators and pedophiles with these pimps...

I really wonder why I like Thailand anymore.....

Every country has horrible people like this guy, but this place seems to have more.....

Not so. The US is the largest market for child porn and a majority of the world's child abuse domains are in the US, so it would be logical to assume most of the predators are in the US, Mexico is also big in that stuff. Compared to the US, numbers of perpetrators in LOS is tiny and the number of farangs involved is very small.

and then we have child predators and pedophiles with these pimps...

Have you ever seen a pimp with a child for sale in LOS? I'd bet not. I haven't seen a pimp in Thailand since the Vietnam war, when they were peddling girls to US troops on R & R.

Edited January 7, 2016 by thaibeachlovers

[cyberfarang]

I`ve met this man long time ago. Once went to a talk he did about his life story, how he became a monk and he described that he became native in Thailand. Remember being very impressed by him. Spoke Thai better then any Thais and Oxford dictionary English.

All I can say is; what a let down in human beings, especially being a fellow Englishman. Makes me feel like throwing up reading this report, a massive disappointment.

[thaibeachlovers]

I found his youtube videos heartwarming. There is certainly no sign of evil intent, quite the opposite in fact. We are given no clue as to the nature of the alleged uploaded photos. Let's hope that a bunch of British bobbies didn't fly business class half way round the world at the tax payers expense just for some innocent dreamy shots of some children bathing in a river.

and no doubt the parties at Soi Cowboy every night.

[Youaredoomed]

I`ve met this man long time ago. Once went to a talk he did about his life story, how he became a monk and he described that he became native in Thailand. Remember being very impressed by him. Spoke Thai better then any Thais and Oxford dictionary English.

All I can say is; what a let down in human beings, especially being a fellow Englishman. Makes me feel like throwing up reading this report, a massive disappointment.

Just shows the Thai Visa model for the 'perfect expat' can abaft gang agley, as the poet Burns once said........

I can imagine the faux CM 'Rotarian' types are in severe 'backtracking' mode today.......

[SOTIRIOS]

,,,sure seems guilty.....

[LarryBird]

Remember this guy is yet to be convicted of any crime.

He deserves the respect of anyone who is innocent until proven otherwise.

No, no, and no. Let me help you see why. Assume you see your neighbor walk up and PUNCH your other neighbor in the face. It goes to trial, and the assailant claims they acted in self defense, despite your testimony. He also adds that the two of you had a beef a while back about your barking dog which gives you the reason to lie. Jury finds there is not enough evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Do you still treat the assailant with the respect of anyone else in your neighborhood? Or imagine being a victim of a rape and testifying against the rapist, only to see them walk away.. Innocent until proven guilty is in the court of law. Not public opinion, and certainly not an internet forum.

[mankondang]

Some of these pedos choose isolated places, like Fang, to do their dirty work. I imagine he felt nobody would search for him there. Uploading photos is what got him nailed, but he would of been caught eventually anyways. Probably by some mom and dad wondering why their kids were hanging out at this guy's home. Sounds like he had several "hobbies" that kept him close to kids. Photography, english lessons, etc. Masquerading as a monk..lol. I knew an older man who was pimping ladies in the Philippines who claimed he used to be a Mormon "Bishop". Means absolutely nothing, as hiding behind robes is a classic technique for these guys.

Hope none of these kids were further violated, other than the shower photos.

In the internet "geographical" Fang would not be good place to hide. It has a relatively small number of Internet Service Providers (ISP), and hence easier for internet investigators to observe. However, Fang is on the boarder of Burma, and is home from home to Burmese and Hill Tribes children who become targets for these sick hunters.

The Chiang Mai Police Division working on child protection uses many western resources, and with the arrest, for these same offences, last month of the America, James Craig Neumann in another district of Chiang Mai, I'm sure that the US department investigating/interrogating him, and sifting through all his internet details and connections, would, as reported, notified their Chiang Mai colleges about this guy, and hence his arrest. It's good too see that Thai and other farang police are working together to try to get scum like this put away.

[mully]

Just to be clear, it's not child 'pornography' its images of child sexual abuse.

[NextStationBangkok]

Need a powerful vacuum cleaner to suck his balls out!

[lostmebike]

These peados are everywhere, in every society around the world. They prey on young kids pretending to be kind and generous but behind that look of good intent lies a devious, sinister monster.

Death is too good for them. Castration followed by endless beatings still wouldn't give back what they take from children.

All those saying he's still not been found guilty of anything blah, blah, are you saying it's normal to have naked images of kids on your possession? Is it normal to search for and download images of kids? No it isn't so stop attempting the 'but, but, but' crap.

[mankondang]

I`ve met this man long time ago. Once went to a talk he did about his life story, how he became a monk and he described that he became native in Thailand. Remember being very impressed by him. Spoke Thai better then any Thais and Oxford dictionary English.

All I can say is; what a let down in human beings, especially being a fellow Englishman. Makes me feel like throwing up reading this report, a massive disappointment.

I feel your embarrassment. You've done nothing wrong. Infact, what you have said here shows the lengths these people go to, too deceive others. Just think, if he was smart enough to fool an educated adult like you, then what chance do little kids have.

[spidermike007]

instead of trawling through facebook and pursuing people who click 'like' the police should be concentrating their IT resources fighting crimes such as the one highlighted here, and not relying on foreigners to do the work for them.

I agree with you entirely, but I don't think the police here are so interested in this type of crime.

Take a walk along Sukhumvit and there is still child porn readily available.

Not along ago I was at the Marriot Hotel. When I came out some guy approached me and asked if I wanted a lady. After a polite no, he asked if I wanted a man. Again I said "No thanks" to which he replied "A young boy or young girl?"

The police could easily get these guys, but they are not interested.

True that. I am sure it is only with regard to pressure from the US agencies, that this is pursued. All American laws apply to all US citizens, worldwide. And the justice department has nothing better to do, than pursue Americans worldwide, who are offending their sexual tastes. I am certainly not in any way supportive of child porn, or for that matter any sort of underage sex practice. But, I am also absolutely opposed to the long reach of the US government. That is ugly. That is heinous. We are talking about the same government that is pursuing growers of ganga, even though dozens of states have legalized it.

The US govt. has been on a moral crusade for quite some time. And you don't even want to know what those same officials do in their spare time. Kind of an Eliot Spitzer sort of thing. Ugly, unnecessary, and mean spirited.

[Dancealot]

I wonder wether he's allowed to play candy crush on his smartphone in prison. Must be very boring in there for him inbetween visiting hours..^

[mully]

Just to qualify what I mean, to call these kinds of images of children engaging in sexual activities 'pornography' dangerously conflates it with pornography in general. Whatever your moral point of view is, and whether or not it degrades women, adults usually consent to taking part in that sort of stuff. Pornography or the viewing of it is also often seen as 'titilating' , laddish behaviour or otherwise trivialised. There's nothing trivial about what is happening to the children in the pictures in question here, nor can they give informed consent. They are images of child sexual abuse, and that's what it should be called.

Just to be clear, it's not child 'pornography' its images of child sexual abuse.

[smokie36]

I found his youtube videos heartwarming. There is certainly no sign of evil intent, quite the opposite in fact. We are given no clue as to the nature of the alleged uploaded photos. Let's hope that a bunch of British bobbies didn't fly business class half way round the world at the tax payers expense just for some innocent dreamy shots of some children bathing in a river.

Normal people don't take "dreamy" or any other type of pictures of other people's children without their parents permission.

This guy is a paedophile getting his kicks out of this much the same as a paedophile sitting on a park bench in the UK.

He is scum and deserves no better than a jail cell.

[mad mary]

The phrase thick as thieves comes to mind here. How certain members have gathered,defending,excusing,deflecting... Disturbing.

[mickyboy]

good news for the children bad news for him

[Asiantravel]

Some of these pedos choose isolated places, like Fang, to do their dirty work. I imagine he felt nobody would search for him there. Uploading photos is what got him nailed, but he would of been caught eventually anyways. Probably by some mom and dad wondering why their kids were hanging out at this guy's home. Sounds like he had several "hobbies" that kept him close to kids. Photography, english lessons, etc. Masquerading as a monk..lol. I knew an older man who was pimping ladies in the Philippines who claimed he used to be a Mormon "Bishop". Means absolutely nothing, as hiding behind robes is a classic technique for these guys.

Hope none of these kids were further violated, other than the shower photos.

" Means absolutely nothing, as hiding behind robes is a classic technique for these guys. "

same as so many Catholic priests in USA and Australia and the biggest issue in the end was fighting tooth and nail to avoid the Catholic Church from paying out too much compensation instead of properly addressing the criminality and moral issues

Edited January 7, 2016 by Asiantravel

[cyberfarang]

I`ve met this man long time ago. Once went to a talk he did about his life story, how he became a monk and he described that he became native in Thailand. Remember being very impressed by him. Spoke Thai better then any Thais and Oxford dictionary English.

All I can say is; what a let down in human beings, especially being a fellow Englishman. Makes me feel like throwing up reading this report, a massive disappointment.

I feel your embarrassment. You've done nothing wrong. Infact, what you have said here shows the lengths these people go to, too deceive others. Just think, if he was smart enough to fool an educated adult like you, then what chance do little kids have.

I`m sure he wrote a book and was a tutor of Thai language, culture and a philosopher. I`m not into religion but was inspired by this man after reading about him in a Farlang Chiang Mai magazine how he managed to cross the boundaries between English and Thai culture and why I went to his talk intrigued by what he had to say. At the time I thought he was an intellectual a genius in fact.

I think he had a lot of people fooled, just like Jimmy Savile, a person who was believed to be an outstanding member of a community, someone to admire. This is a smack in the face for all Chiang Mai expats and it is indeed a great embarrassment.

[Jeremy50]

Once again the armchair sadists rant as to the torture they'd do on another human being without even the guy being convicted. I wish TV wouldn't post stories like this as it achieves nothing but provide an outlet for sadists.

The photos might be nothing more than Bilitis type ie legal. Of course, some on here would castrate David Hamilton.

Actually if you are caught in possession of one of world renowned photographer's David Hamilton's highly artistic 'coffee table' books of soft focus shots of beautiful young naked females, in the UK, you would go on the sex offenders register. But that's just one example of the sad joyless place the UK has become.

[smokie36]

Once again the armchair sadists rant as to the torture they'd do on another human being without even the guy being convicted. I wish TV wouldn't post stories like this as it achieves nothing but provide an outlet for sadists.

The photos might be nothing more than Bilitis type ie legal. Of course, some on here would castrate David Hamilton.

Actually if you are caught in possession of one of world renowned photographer's David Hamilton's highly artistic 'coffee table' books of soft focus shots of beautiful young naked females, in the UK, you would go on the sex offenders register. But that's just one example of the sad joyless place the UK has become.

Some would describe the pair of you as DELETED apologists on the basis of these two posts.

Edited January 8, 2016 by seedy
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[botfly]

In the interests of transparency I commend Thai Visa to bringing to light this shocking and horrific story. I hope this individual is swiftly brought to justice.

Paedofiles and any person supporting, hiding or otherwise apologising for these activities are no better than the child abusing criminal himself.

This monster was a trusted member of the community and gained the trust of many. He has a family of his own.

I have passed on this thread link and associated comments to several news sites. Thank you again for great reporting Thai Visa. You many check out Fred the Fiddler page on Facebook, WeChat groups, Weibo, QQ, SCMP, Asia Expat, GeoExpat, pm for details.

Police track supporters.

[dunroaming]

Petedk wrote

"Not along ago I was at the Marriot Hotel. When I came out some guy approached me and asked if I wanted a lady. After a polite no, he asked if I wanted a man. Again I said "No thanks" to which he replied "A young boy or young girl?"​

Yep lots of times I have been asked the same thing over the years. In reality they are not going to supply you with anything. It is just a scam to extract money from you. If you are around Sukhumvit and you want a woman, man or something in-between, then you don't need a third party. They are looking for the gullible and Thailand certainly serves up plenty of those.

[rubl]

Remember this guy is yet to be convicted of any crime.

He deserves the respect of anyone who is innocent until proven otherwise.

Absolutely, very innocent. Probably only put in protective custody to protect him from less open-minded people ?

""With a court warrant, DSI searched this man's house in Chiang Mai this morning and found a lot of such images, some were taken by himself and some were downloaded. The man admits that the images belong to him," said Paisith."

Of course he's innocent till proven guilty. Never the less, charged and locked up for now. Some kids may feel more safe knowing that.

[rubl]

Once again the armchair sadists rant as to the torture they'd do on another human being without even the guy being convicted. I wish TV wouldn't post stories like this as it achieves nothing but provide an outlet for sadists.

The photos might be nothing more than Bilitis type ie legal. Of course, some on here would castrate David Hamilton.

Actually if you are caught in possession of one of world renowned photographer's David Hamilton's highly artistic 'coffee table' books of soft focus shots of beautiful young naked females, in the UK, you would go on the sex offenders register. But that's just one example of the sad joyless place the UK has become.

Some would describe the pair of you as paedophilia apologists on the basis of these two posts.

They're just running out of places to be 'themselves' at the costs of others.

[smokie36]

Once again the armchair sadists rant as to the torture they'd do on another human being without even the guy being convicted. I wish TV wouldn't post stories like this as it achieves nothing but provide an outlet for sadists.

The photos might be nothing more than Bilitis type ie legal. Of course, some on here would castrate David Hamilton.

Actually if you are caught in possession of one of world renowned photographer's David Hamilton's highly artistic 'coffee table' books of soft focus shots of beautiful young naked females, in the UK, you would go on the sex offenders register. But that's just one example of the sad joyless place the UK has become.

Some would describe the pair of you as paedophilia apologists on the basis of these two posts.

They're just running out of places to be 'themselves' at the costs of others.

Indeed rubl and in this matter I am happy for the arm of the law to reach as far and wide as it needs to.

Also many of us are watching and will be keeping them informed of our suspicions.

Children and young people need protecting from such vermin.

[rubl]

What would be interesting to know is just how the yanks found him online.

Big brother is watching.

Part maybe just the "he uploaded" aspect. That makes it a deliberate action and probably to a server under surveillance already.