rooster59 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 IS militant in Syria kills his mother in public for apostasyBASSEM MROUE, Associated PressBRAM JANSSEN, Associated PressBEIRUT (AP) — An Islamic State fighter shot and killed his own mother before onlookers at a public square in the Syrian city of Raqqa after he was told that she was not a true believer, activists reported Friday, the latest in IS's brutal public killings over the past two years in the de facto capital of the group's self-proclaimed caliphate.The killings — and there have been scores since IS blitzed across Iraq and Syria to capture large swaths of land in the summer of 2014 — are meant to spread terror and intimidate opponents. Many have been captured on camera, with the gruesome videos later posted on social media sites.In 2014, a woman was stoned to death after IS charged her with adultery. Last year, the group put a Jordanian pilot inside a metal cage, then set him on fire, apparently also in Raqqa. The Islamic State has also posted images of beheadings of captured foreigners, journalists and aid workers, including Americans, British and those of other nationalities.According to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which tracks the Syrian conflict, 20-year-old IS fighter Ali Sakr killed his mother in a public square in Raqqa on Thursday.The Observatory said the woman, Lina Qassem, who was in her 40s, was originally from Syria's coastal region but had been living in the northern town of Tabqa for more than 20 years. The group said she was trying to convince her son to leave the extremist group and flee Raqqa but he in turn informed IS on her.Abu Mohammed, a member of a Raqqa-based activist group that reports on IS, known as Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently, also reported the killing on his Twitter account. The Observatory said it took place near the local post office building, where Qassem worked.Meanwhile, clashes in Iraq between a joint Turkish-Iraqi force and Islamic State militants near a training camp outside the northern city of Mosul left at least 18 IS fighters dead, the Turkish president and a former Iraqi governor said Friday.The fighting erupted late on Thursday outside the Bashiqa camp, which was at the center of a controversy last month when Turkey moved troops there to protect Turkish trainers aiding local Sunni fighters hoping to take back Mosul from the Islamic State group.Baghdad has demanded that Turkish troops withdraw, describing their presence as a violation of international law. Ankara has pulled some troops out but not all.Turkish President Erdogan said on Friday that IS tried to infiltrate Bashiqa, triggering the clashes. Former Iraqi governor Atheel al-Nujaifi, who founded the training camp, said the attack was pre-empted.But the commander of the training camp, Maj Gen. Mohammed Yahya, told The Associated Press that he was at the camp on Thursday night and there were no such clashes."There were airstrikes on IS targets, but there's always airstrikes. Our troops were not involved in any fighting," he insisted.A commander with the Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga forces at the frontline near the training camp said airstrikes killed 16 IS fighters there on Thursday night. The commander, Saeed Mamuzini, said he was not aware of any fighting between the Sunni-Turkish forces and the IS group.The disparate accounts of the events Thursday night could not immediately be reconciled. -- (c) Associated Press 2016-01-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The religion of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The religion of peace. This is what happens when you take the Koran literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Beale Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He'll fit in nicely in Merkels Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm sure she cursed the day she gave birth to this maggot of a sub human offspring's of her.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Now now let's not be judgemental...it's just a cultural norm different to ours in the West and who's to say if it's right or wrong. Edited January 9, 2016 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkktrapper Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 friendly people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 My response is unacceptable and discriminatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futsukayoi Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The religion of peace. This is what happens when you take the Koran literally. Unfortunately all Muslims have to. They all believe it is the actual word of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Is there any way we can just turn the whole Middle East into a giant glass crater and just start over? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Edited January 9, 2016 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Just when you think there are no more depraved acts these disgusting animals can perpetrate they come up with a new act of depravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. Haven't heard of any Christians stoning someone to death or killing their mother in the name of religion recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Did he killed his mother with or without Bulgarian captagon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Got to be in awe of the lack of compassion of these people...what is next...killing your own children that do not want bombs strapped to their bodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. Haven't heard of any Christians stoning someone to death or killing their mother in the name of religion recently. I was just pointing out that it's happened in the past and that the practice is sanctioned in the "holy" books of these religions as well. The bigger problem here is the mental deficiency of religious belief itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. A serious lack of understanding in this post. For starters the story I believe you refer to is Abraham and Isaac. Neither of these two were killed. It was a test of Abraham's faith in God. He passed, nobody was sacrificed. And family sacrifice is neither a touchstone of Judaism or Christianity, in fact there are no sacrifices at all in Christianity, except for perhaps giving up your old ways in search of a better way. To attempt to compare ISIS' behaviour to these two other religions shows not only ignorance, but a simple hatred of people of faith. ISIS is drunk on hatred, blood, and violence. Clearly any comparison to them and any other religion would need to be done with other Satanic groups. Edited January 9, 2016 by canuckamuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Just how sick can you get ? Shades of the Kmer Rouge when they turn against themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. Haven't heard of any Christians stoning someone to death or killing their mother in the name of religion recently. I was just pointing out that it's happened in the past and that the practice is sanctioned in the "holy" books of these religions as well. The bigger problem here is the mental deficiency of religious belief itself. Exactly, the past, and that's exactly where these monsters and in fact their whole religion still lives. Barbarians all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. A serious lack of understanding in this post. For starters the story I believe you refer to is Abraham and Isaac. Neither of these two were killed. It was a test of Abraham's faith in God. He passed, nobody was sacrificed. And family sacrifice is neither a touchstone of Judaism or Christianity, in fact there are no sacrifices at all in Christianity, except for perhaps giving up your old ways in search of a better way.To attempt to compare ISIS' behaviour to these two other religions shows not only ignorance, but a simple hatred of people of faith. ISIS is drunk on hatred, blood, and violence. Clearly any comparison to them and any other religion would need to be done with other Satanic groups. I think thou dost protest too much...but I'll give you the names. I'm a little rusty on my old testiment as I gave up christanity for Lent many decades ago. The key point in the story of Abraham, and the reason it is taught to little kids of the religions, is his WILLINGNESS to make the sacrifice. That he was was willing to carry it out if the command to cease had not been forthcoming. The fact that it wasnt carried out is incidental to the story. This is no different than the test of faith for this ISIS fellow in killing his mother...to him, the test of his faith is his willingness to carry out the killing of his mother for her supposed wrong doing and in his eyes an his fellows he did the right thing.And you say I don't understand religion...the whole of Christanity is build around a "family" member sacrificing himself for others and the celebration of this sacrificial act is the main sacramental act of the Christian church and re-enacted on a daily basis, with believers even drinking the blood and eating the body of their sacrificed "father." There is also endless blood and gore, including the slaughter of children, in the Torah, the Jewish holy book. The point I'm making is that ALL these belief systems are equally abhorent and should be dumped in the trash bin of history. Edited January 9, 2016 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. Haven't heard of any Christians stoning someone to death or killing their mother in the name of religion recently. I was just pointing out that it's happened in the past and that the practice is sanctioned in the "holy" books of these religions as well. The bigger problem here is the mental deficiency of religious belief itself. Anyone reading the Old Testament would be shocked at the level of barbarity in those pages. As I have been saying to those that think welcoming people from an alien culture into their home is a good idea, unless you have lived amongst them you have no idea of what they are capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. A serious lack of understanding in this post. For starters the story I believe you refer to is Abraham and Isaac. Neither of these two were killed. It was a test of Abraham's faith in God. He passed, nobody was sacrificed. And family sacrifice is neither a touchstone of Judaism or Christianity, in fact there are no sacrifices at all in Christianity, except for perhaps giving up your old ways in search of a better way.To attempt to compare ISIS' behaviour to these two other religions shows not only ignorance, but a simple hatred of people of faith. ISIS is drunk on hatred, blood, and violence. Clearly any comparison to them and any other religion would need to be done with other Satanic groups. I think thou dost protest too much...but I'll give you the names. I'm a little rusty on my old testiment as I gave up christanity for Lent many decades ago. The key point in the story is that Abraham is celebrated in the story, and by contemporary religionists, for his WILLINGNESS to make the sacrifice. Not for the fact that it wasn't carried out...that is incidental to the story. And you say I don't understand religion...the whole of Christanity is build around a "family" member sacrificing himself for others and the celebration of this sacrificial act is the main sacramental act of the Christian church and re-enacted on a daily basis, with believers even drinking the blood and eating the body of their sacrificed "father." There is also endless blood and gore, including the slaughter of children, in the Torah, the Jewish holy book. The point I'm making is that ALL these belief systems are equally abhorent and should be dumped in the trash bin of history. Why are you comparing Christianity, along with Hinduism, Buddhism etc, with the atrocities that are being committed in the name of Islam? Of course other religions were guilty of barbaric acts in the past, but Isis in the name of Islam is still performing these barbaric crimes. You are coming across as some kind of apologist for these hideous acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The first Horseman of the apocalypse is now here...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxley99 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) jacko45k - The best reply I have yet read on this matter and agree wholeheartedly - Re CMNNightRider - Send in the Marines !! They would be good at this ..as they did in Vietnam ...worse than the Waffen SS ..do read 'Kill Anything That Moves': United States War Crimes and Atrocities in Vietnam, 1965-1973... a real account of what the marines are capable of ..yet if I recall they still lost !!! You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Edited January 9, 2016 by seedy Quote hidden post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The first Horseman of the apocalypse is now here...? Don't worry, it's not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. What about that story? Abraham or Jacob sacrificed people? That's a new one on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I was just pointing out that it's happened in the past and that the practice is sanctioned in the "holy" books of these religions as well. Tell me where, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You have to fear a mentality like this. I could not fathom in the slightest harming a family member based on some religious doctrine. The submission to it is beyond my grasp. It personifies evil and psychotic behaviour of the truly insane. Any religion that can create such behaviour should be abandoned by any sane and intelligent person.. Any religious belief system is susceptible such twisted thinking...ever hear of the story of Abraham and Jacob? This similar family sacrifice narrative is a key touchstone in Judaism and Christianity. A serious lack of understanding in this post. For starters the story I believe you refer to is Abraham and Isaac. Neither of these two were killed. It was a test of Abraham's faith in God. He passed, nobody was sacrificed. And family sacrifice is neither a touchstone of Judaism or Christianity, in fact there are no sacrifices at all in Christianity, except for perhaps giving up your old ways in search of a better way. To attempt to compare ISIS' behaviour to these two other religions shows not only ignorance, but a simple hatred of people of faith. ISIS is drunk on hatred, blood, and violence. Clearly any comparison to them and any other religion would need to be done with other Satanic groups. You beat me to it. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He'll fit in nicely in Merkels Germany. What on earth do you mean by that? Kindly enlighten me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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