repaid in full

[soalbundy]

I wrote about a year ago how i saved a small three week old kitten from death after it had been savaged by a rogue tom cat, it took me two months of continual care before he could even walk again.

Yesterday i walked into the kitchen in the early hours of the morning to make a coffee, it was just about getting light and i was still half asleep. While reaching for the coffee, Little Fella, that's his name, annoyingly leaped between my legs dancing around like a mad thing, i looked down and saw him fighting with a baby cobra about 18 inches long which i had nearly trodden on with my bare feet. He killed it by cracking its head between its jaws and then walked off regally, tail aloft, while my dog just watched and barked from a safe distance. My Thai neighbours told me that a baby cobra is more poisonous than an adult,whether that is true or not i don't know but Little Fella has repaid me in full.

[Rob13]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

[Youaredoomed]

Indeed! Get your local snake man in to look around for a 'nest'......

[NickJ]

I found 18 of them once. Under a small ramp leading into my friends place....Great Cat story.....

[soalbundy]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

I am hoping it came in from outdoors,the missus had been up since 4 in the morning bustling around and had left the back door open, it being cold i think it came in for the warmth.

[Brewster67]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

[Rob13]

I'd be looking to buy a pet mongoose about now if I were you.

Edited January 17, 2016 by Rob13

[dageurreotype]

Indeed! Get your local snake man in to look around for a 'nest'......

And when he's located it, avoid it, don't destroy it. It's their planet too ..

[soalbundy]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

The missus just told me,sort of by the way, she had killed another one in the courtyard so it would appear that we have a nest somewhere outside. Thai's seem quite blas'e about it, the neighbours ( this is a farming village) said that they are fairly big for babies meaning that they are at the stage where they will move off on their own anyway now, in other words,leave well enough alone.

[chrisinth]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

Not sure where you get your information from, but a bite from a baby (or adult for that matter) cobra is in no way an assured death sentence for a human.

There is little difference in toxicity of the venom between young and adult poisonous snakes.

There are some that believe that it is more dangerous to be bitten by an adolescent snake because it hasn't got proper control of how much venom is released, but that is contentious.

It could also be argued that the adolescent snake will strike more often as it hasn't yet sorted out how much aggression is needed for a particular task, making it more dangerous through amounts of venom delivered through multiple strikes. This however would conflict with the venom release theory above as it could be argued that all the venom would be released in the first strike.

But, to state that it is an assured death sentence is pure scaremongry at best.........................

[soalbundy]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

Not sure where you get your information from, but a bite from a baby (or adult for that matter) cobra is in no way an assured death sentence for a human.

There is little difference in toxicity of the venom between young and adult poisonous snakes.

There are some that believe that it is more dangerous to be bitten by an adolescent snake because it hasn't got proper control of how much venom is released, but that is contentious.

It could also be argued that the adolescent snake will strike more often as it hasn't yet sorted out how much aggression is needed for a particular task, making it more dangerous through amounts of venom delivered through multiple strikes. This however would conflict with the venom release theory above as it could be argued that all the venom would be released in the first strike.

But, to state that it is an assured death sentence is pure scaremongry at best.........................

Maybe not an assured death, although people in my area have been killed by cobras, but the effects of a bite are bad enough, a carpenter in my village was bitten in the right arm and although he received an antidote injection within 30 minuets or so the muscles in his right arm remain withered and he cant work as a carpenter anymore.

[Brewster67]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

Not sure where you get your information from, but a bite from a baby (or adult for that matter) cobra is in no way an assured death sentence for a human.

There is little difference in toxicity of the venom between young and adult poisonous snakes.

There are some that believe that it is more dangerous to be bitten by an adolescent snake because it hasn't got proper control of how much venom is released, but that is contentious.

It could also be argued that the adolescent snake will strike more often as it hasn't yet sorted out how much aggression is needed for a particular task, making it more dangerous through amounts of venom delivered through multiple strikes. This however would conflict with the venom release theory above as it could be argued that all the venom would be released in the first strike.

But, to state that it is an assured death sentence is pure scaremongry at best.........................

I watched a Nat Geo documentary about them and the narrator clearly said that a baby cobra's venom is more highly concentrated albeit they have smaller doses... Take it up with them.

[Youaredoomed]

Assured death? No. But as SAB pointed out you don't want to be tagged by one of these serpents, even a baby,

When I lived in India a lad got a partial 'nip' in the hand off one when he ran over it on his bike and flipped it onto himself. Lost three fingers.

[chrisinth]

Thing about baby snakes is, there's never just one.

That is correct, and very likely that it will not be far from the nest, so chances are there is a nest of cobras very close to your home, and I would certainly ask around the local Thais who the best people to call are to find the nest and destroy them. The good news is that once the eggs hatch the parents usually abandon the babies to fend for themselves.

But it is totally true that baby cobra venom is much higher concentrated and is certainly much more dangerous than the venom of a full grown snake, if that isn't dangerous as it is.

A bite from a baby cobra is an assured death sentence. I would seriously seek the destruction of this nest if you know what is good for you, and check your whole house.

Not sure where you get your information from, but a bite from a baby (or adult for that matter) cobra is in no way an assured death sentence for a human.

There is little difference in toxicity of the venom between young and adult poisonous snakes.

There are some that believe that it is more dangerous to be bitten by an adolescent snake because it hasn't got proper control of how much venom is released, but that is contentious.

It could also be argued that the adolescent snake will strike more often as it hasn't yet sorted out how much aggression is needed for a particular task, making it more dangerous through amounts of venom delivered through multiple strikes. This however would conflict with the venom release theory above as it could be argued that all the venom would be released in the first strike.

But, to state that it is an assured death sentence is pure scaremongry at best.........................

Maybe not an assured death, although people in my area have been killed by cobras, but the effects of a bite are bad enough, a carpenter in my village was bitten in the right arm and although he received an antidote injection within 30 minuets or so the muscles in his right arm remain withered and he cant work as a carpenter anymore.

Oh please don't get me wrong, there is nothing pleasant about snake bites, and the damage they can do.

I was only disputing the fact that baby cobras will kill you every time and they are more dangerous than adults. But, if left untreated, as with all highly venomous snakes, i suppose that could be true.

Without trying to contradict myself, this is the link to a very informative site for Thai snakes, link directed at Thai monocled cobras:

https://www.thailandsnakes.com/venomous/front-fanged/monocled-cobras-venomous-very-deadly/

Excellent story about the cat........................

Edited January 17, 2016 by chrisinth

[Rob13]

And when he's located it, avoid it, don't destroy it. It's their planet too ..

Or get somebody to collect them and relocate them out to the countryside somewhere. Live and let live only goes so far for some of us

[seajae]

interesting, our dog killed one the same size(18" or so) yesterday, also killed another the same size a few weeks earlier in our yard, might have to see if I can find where they are coming from.

[soalbundy]

interesting, our dog killed one the same size(18" or so) yesterday, also killed another the same size a few weeks earlier in our yard, might have to see if I can find where they are coming from.

My case is reversed, the cat shows no interest in mice but the dog is crazy about them, the cat seems to enjoy the challenge of snakes but the dog is dead scared of them. The cat will go for lizards but doesn't know what to do with them when they are dead,probably because he didn't have any training from his mother, i had to hand rear him, feeding him cows milk from a straw and squashing mince meat into a paste and pushing it into his mouth. In my village even the hens hunt mice i have seen chickens running around with a mouse speared onto their beaks, amazing Isaan

Edited January 17, 2016 by soalbundy

[Blackheart]

One of the handlers at the snake farm in Bangkok lost a few fingers.

Would not want to be bitten by one of any age, one thing I heard that makes a cobra that little more dangerous is the very long fangs,that would I assume make an adult more dangerous.