jgriff Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Well, junta supporters! How about you explain to us how there was no reform under the elected administrations but there is reform now? As I have asked a few times without getting any answer: What meaningful and positive reforms have taken place under the present junta? Guess I'll have to wait a while for an answer. Maybe you missed it : the Junta are here for political reform and it has been underway for some time now. Then an election will be held under the new rules which we all hope will give the most free and fair elections Thailand has seen. You know the sort : where non-red shirt politicians campaigning in the North East don't get murdered. Then, if they are any good, the new government will set new rules to reform all the organisations under them. Why do you people think Prayuth should fix every single problem in Thailand personally ?. It's not easy to change a system which has been set up by a dirty bunch of greedy cronies you know. Supertramp did a song called " DREAMER " which IMO is perfect for the above ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Well, junta supporters! How about you explain to us how there was no reform under the elected administrations but there is reform now? As I have asked a few times without getting any answer: What meaningful and positive reforms have taken place under the present junta? Guess I'll have to wait a while for an answer. Maybe you missed it : the Junta are here for political reform and it has been underway for some time now. Then an election will be held under the new rules which we all hope will give the most free and fair elections Thailand has seen. You know the sort : where non-red shirt politicians campaigning in the North East don't get murdered. Then, if they are any good, the new government will set new rules to reform all the organisations under them. Why do you people think Prayuth should fix every single problem in Thailand personally ?. It's not easy to change a system which has been set up by a dirty bunch of greedy cronies you know. a dirty bunch of greedy cronies - by this I assume you mean the people at top level in the armed forces??? or are you referring to the police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Perhaps it's as simple as what the RTP knows about corrupt Army practice going back 30+ years? It,s simple---- don't rock my boat or yours might sink as well, Stalemate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 If its not broke, don't fix it! (Reads like a tongue in cheek "Not The Nation" article) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I no longer believe John even believes it. It's about something else with him, I'm sure. I agree. He's either insane or a shill, take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The first thing the Junta should have done was to fire every single police in the country, Georgia style. But meh, lost chance, nothing else after that matters as there's zero enforcement of anything. Flying in and out of Angola, for a couple of years, we would often see long slow moving immigration lines. Apparently the government (???) fired the lot for corruption, by demanding bribes to speed up a persons entry Then a new crop would come along, and before long, same same... But I digress To attempt a reform without changing leadership is no reform at all, it's just a very poor PR stunt, probably as a result of the lack of credibility earned by the RTP during the highly published B2 inquisition You can fool all of the people, some of the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But you can never fool all of the people all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Reforming the police would mean reforming the justice system too. Then maintaining those reforms would require impartial, fair, and just enforcement of the law, and where necessary action by prosecutors leading to trials in which the law was again applied with impartiality regardless of wealth, status, family, connections, or patrons. Doesn't look like that is likely to happen. Without that, political reforms will be somewhat meaningless and will not deliver a just and fair society. Looks like the old swings and roundabout syndrome will prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 "The Defense Minister revealed that the Royal Thai Police (RTP) is establishing a reform committee" Therefore, there will be no substantial reforms. "...and cooperation with judges and the community." So 'established' figures may remain 'established'. "...while highlighting that reform would not involve restructuring the police force." Because they are not really reforms at all, beyond a few token low hanging fruit and political and 'economic' rivals. "General Prawit reiterated that police reform would also aim at creating greater public confidence in the authority..." Which means business as usual as far as deluding the Thai public is concerned. Yes but A shiny plaster on a wood leg is a good thing.. It looks shiny.... As does a committee.... or any statement about the latest... Shiny is good, it brings happiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 "Then an election will be held under the new rules which we all hope will give the most free and fair elections Thailand has seen. You know the sort : where non-red shirt politicians campaigning" And the chances are that the old 'red shirts' will have the numbers, win a majority and the whole circus will start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 If its not broke, don't fix it! (Reads like a tongue in cheek "Not The Nation" article) Truth can be more bizarre than fiction. It must be difficult to make up articles for Not the Nation, because there is so much weirdness being spouted by the junta and others, so much could be The Nation instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 So RTP tea money pot has to be more evenly spread now and shared with other members of Junta and no changes will take place and so for the next military take over the police will be on army side even if a few students disappear mysteriously with people in uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 So RTP tea money pot has to be more evenly spread now and shared with other members of Junta and no changes will take place and so for the next military take over the police will be on army side even if a few students disappear mysteriously with people in uniform Aye, all of them around the trough patting themselves in the back; happiness has returned... Better take turn than rocking the other boats.... The one waiting his turn, please take case of those pesky flies students .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 In most of the world its accepted '' its not what, but who you know that determines your position'' Thailand seems to use a modification '' Its what you know on/ about others that determines your position''. little gets accomplished as everyone is always looking back over their shoulder to see who is sneaking up on them or watching what they are up to. This is even seen within the immediate members of some families. The interbreeding between the Chinese/Thai produced a relitive unique small breed in Thailand that has dominated both socially and economically this country for several generations, and looks as it will continue to do so for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Why mess with perfection, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 'Changes and reforms'... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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