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So the problem is how bad the Thai's drive is it?

how come pedestrians are still being killed on the roads all over the world by normal everyday people doing normal everyday things every day?

The blame game is part of the reason why the situation is so bad, not part of the solution.

There is now fifty years of evidence to support that.

When we get away from wanting to find fault with others and start trying to address the core issues then we can start to move on and learn ways to avoid accidents happening so often.

We admitted that we were not in control—that our systems had become unmanageable.

Recovery from Command-and-Control: A Twelve-Step Program

The ‘human factor’ in safety nearly always seems to be a negative thing. So perhaps we associate people with bad outcomes. After all, when accidents happen, there are people there. That is a consistent finding! But when accidents don’t happen, there are also people there.

Reducing ‘the human factor’

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Pedestrian Jay walker and first rider on wrong side of road caused accident, second rider done nothing wrong (was unavoidable) he/she was in correct lane going correct direction

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I'd blame the motorcyclist who hit the pedestrian. He was riding much too fast overtaking slow moving traffic on a wet road and on the wrong side of the road.

Nah mate, it would be the nearest farang to the accident's fault, even if he was in a coffee shop minding his own business. "If farang not here in Thailand, not happen...blah blah blah"
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I find it difficult to comprehend that so many in this thread allocate blame only to the motorcyclist. I hope that those of you with children do not teach them to cross the road in the same way as the pedestrian in this video. The blame must surely be shared.

Many people, in Thailand, also get hit, when using traffic lights and pedestrian crossings. If, for just a few seconds, you actually think about it, the pedestrian not only looked, more than once, but was also standing still, for some time, before being hit, by a bike that showed no sign of braking. This pedestrian did NOTHING wrong. It is clearly the illegal actions, of the bike rider, that caused the collision.

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What more could the pedestrian have done ????? Apart from not cross the road at all.

Just wait for the motorcycle to pass. Obvious.

Wow, your nickname really does suit you, only a tosser would think like you... are you a tosser?

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Pedestrian Jay walker and first rider on wrong side of road caused accident, second rider done nothing wrong (was unavoidable) he/she was in correct lane going correct direction

According to the established definition, not one from another blog sites own dictionary, let's call him EDward, the pedestrian was NOT jaywalking, in fact the traffic had STOPPED, he looked a few times while crossing, the bike that hit him was on the wrong side, of the road, travelling a t speed, just look at the time from when the pedestrian stopped, until he was hit, it is clear the bike traveled some distance, without due care or attention, it's not as though he stepped in front of the bike, not giving the rider time to slow, or stop.

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Pretty much it should never be a pedestrian's fault for walking across a street or even running/walking on a road..

Now if the pedestrian darts out into the street - a motor vehicle needs to attempt to avoid hitting that person if possible.. Shouldn't just plow into them - unless you're having bad very bad day... Jk

Any vehicle - does not have the right of way over a pedestrian for any reason...

My opinion...

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Pedestrian Jay walker and first rider on wrong side of road caused accident, second rider done nothing wrong (was unavoidable) he/she was in correct lane going correct direction

According to the established definition, not one from another blog sites own dictionary, let's call him EDward, the pedestrian was NOT jaywalking, in fact the traffic had STOPPED, he looked a few times while crossing, the bike that hit him was on the wrong side, of the road, travelling a t speed, just look at the time from when the pedestrian stopped, until he was hit, it is clear the bike traveled some distance, without due care or attention, it's not as though he stepped in front of the bike, not giving the rider time to slow, or stop.

Don't know what blog site you on about mate?

The guy put himself in a position of danger when he could of crossed at a safer point/time, the rider was on wrong side of road - both contributed to the accident and the second rider was an unfortunate party to it - lets not split hairs about it

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Pedestrian Jay walker and first rider on wrong side of road caused accident, second rider done nothing wrong (was unavoidable) he/she was in correct lane going correct direction

According to the established definition, not one from another blog sites own dictionary, let's call him EDward, the pedestrian was NOT jaywalking, in fact the traffic had STOPPED, he looked a few times while crossing, the bike that hit him was on the wrong side, of the road, travelling a t speed, just look at the time from when the pedestrian stopped, until he was hit, it is clear the bike traveled some distance, without due care or attention, it's not as though he stepped in front of the bike, not giving the rider time to slow, or stop.

Don't know what blog site you on about mate?

The guy put himself in a position of danger when he could of crossed at a safer point/time, the rider was on wrong side of road - both contributed to the accident and the second rider was an unfortunate party to it - lets not split hairs about it

what safer point would that be?

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