Snackbar Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Http://www.zdnet.com/article/australian-attorney-general-and-esafety-commissioner-dismiss-apple-backdoor-concerns/ Is this guy wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yeah they are. They are politicians pandering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Michael Hayden, former NSA and CIA director, "I side with Apple vs. FBI on back doors" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-hayden-former-director-fbi-nsa-fbi-apple-san-bernardino-2016-race-new-book/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Are all these security experts wrong? “Security experts: FBI asking Apple to weaken encryption is 'path to hell'” http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/01/apple-fbi-encryption-fight-security-experts-rsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 32 professors from the top law schools in the US.... Are they all wrong? https://www.apple.com/pr/pdf/32_Law_Professors.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's an ethical debate. There's no right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtwo Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The FBI have called off the case anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 The FBI have called off the case anyway. Well that's settled the most significant debate in contemporary computer science. fYI the case hasn't been called off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 John McAfee, it's a 30 min job. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2449330/john-mcafee-unlocks-an-iphone-and-does-not-eat-a-shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 So, the FBI got into the phone themselves after all. Best result all round really - they get the data they need, without Apple having to compromise on security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 So, the FBI got into the phone themselves after all. Best result all round really - they get the data they need, without Apple having to compromise on security. You believe that? That the FBI magically decrypted the phone? I don't. Just face-saving BS from the idiots who knew they would lose any court case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 clearly you fail to understand an operating system and your only way out is to be abusive.. Are you a teacher per chance? That's rather unnecessary. Did you dislike all your teachers at school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 So, the FBI got into the phone themselves after all. Best result all round really - they get the data they need, without Apple having to compromise on security. You believe that? That the FBI magically decrypted the phone? I don't. Just face-saving BS from the idiots who knew they would lose any court case. I agree, of course Apple helped but this was the best way to spin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 So, the FBI got into the phone themselves after all. Best result all round really - they get the data they need, without Apple having to compromise on security. You believe that? That the FBI magically decrypted the phone? I don't. Just face-saving BS from the idiots who knew they would lose any court case. I agree, of course Apple helped but this was the best way to spin it. Nice to see at least one newspaper (the Guardian) is using skeptic language: "the Israeli mobile forensics firm that reportedly helped the FBI crack the iPhone..." (My emphasis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 Are you saying Apple has been deceptive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTee Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 clearly you fail to understand an operating system and your only way out is to be abusive.. Are you a teacher per chance? That's rather unnecessary. Did you dislike all your teachers at school? Only the ones that didn't have clue what they were talking about, and turned to abuse to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm not a cult member. I don't even own an iPhone. I just disagree with you. It's something adults can usually do without resorting to calling each other names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTee Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Interesting related post on Mashable. http://mashable.com/2016/03/30/fbi-android-crack-passcode/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-tech-link#zodNryBxyZqZIt may go over some readers heads, and it does have some concepts that are not so easy for your average teacher to grasp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 clearly you fail to understand an operating system and your only way out is to be abusive.. Are you a teacher per chance? That's rather unnecessary. Did you dislike all your teachers at school? Only the ones that didn't have clue what they were talking about, and turned to abuse to save face. May I ask, where was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTee Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 clearly you fail to understand an operating system and your only way out is to be abusive.. Are you a teacher per chance? That's rather unnecessary. Did you dislike all your teachers at school? Only the ones that didn't have clue what they were talking about, and turned to abuse to save face. May I ask, where was this? sure, feel free to ask.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 clearly you fail to understand an operating system and your only way out is to be abusive.. Are you a teacher per chance? That's rather unnecessary. Did you dislike all your teachers at school? Only the ones that didn't have clue what they were talking about, and turned to abuse to save face. May I ask, where was this? sure, feel free to ask.. No surprise that you didn't get on with your teachers if that's your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTee Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 No surprise that you didn't get on with your teachers if that's your response. I don't recall saying I didn't get on with teachers.. It is just an observation that certain teachers that fail to understand the topic, when exposed become abusive as a way of saving face. do you have a point? is this in any way related to the topic or are you just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 No surprise that you didn't get on with your teachers if that's your response. I don't recall saying I didn't get on with teachers.. It is just an observation that certain teachers that fail to understand the topic, when exposed become abusive as a way of saving face. do you have a point? is this in any way related to the topic or are you just trolling? So where was this school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008bangkok Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Whats funny in all this is Apple saying they cannot access the phone yet a vulnerability in there own code allowed FBI to get in. The bottom line is that every version on IOS has been jailbroken so it shows that IOS is not secure. Marketing, Reminds me of an ad they put out with a guy running down the road and when he gets to a certain place, he gets a location based alert telling him to remember to buy something from the nearby shop, what they dont tell you is that having location based reminders turned on will flatten your battery quicker than you can eat your dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lujanit Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Whats funny in all this is Apple saying they cannot access the phone yet a vulnerability in there own code allowed FBI to get in. The bottom line is that every version on IOS has been jailbroken so it shows that IOS is not secure. How do you know it is a vulnerability in the iOS? Since the FBI won't publicly say how access was gained it could have been a hardware hack. There has been a lot of speculation that copying the flash drive was the method used. No one knows except the FBI and the third party who accessed the phone although there is a story that the DoJ intends to brief high ranking Senators and the Senate Intelligence Committee on the method used. What is interesting is that WhatsApp has now introduced end to end encryption on all data transmitted via their App. Previously only one to one messages and VOIP call were encrypted. WhatsApp has a user base of over 1 biillion people as of February 2016. “The idea is simple: when you send a message, the only person who can read it is the person or group chat that you send that message to. No one can see inside that message,” WhatsApp said in a blog post announcing the update. “Not cybercriminals. Not hackers. Not oppressive regimes. Not even us.” You think the FBI had a headache with Apple? When all App developers are using end to end encryption the Apple/FBI dustup will seem insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Actually it's one of the most secure o/s available. Jailbreaks I believe only work if a devices is already unlocked and the password know. So yeah.... No device or computer is safe if already in with full access. Duh! There are always bugs and exploits in software. They keep working to improve them and fix them. The new iPhones with the secure enclave are vastly different and more secure than that old 5c was (the San Bernadino phone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Well......I quit watching CSI - Cyber......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Yeah right, how wrong can you be? None more wrong. What phone you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Inflammatory posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well......I quit watching CSI - Cyber......... Excellent comedy value in every episode of that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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