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Biden: Campaign rhetoric on Mexico 'dangerous, damaging'
PETER ORSI, Associated Press
CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN, Associated Press

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that some U.S. campaign rhetoric about Mexico and immigrants has been "dangerous, damaging and incredibly ill-advised" and is out of step with most Americans' attitudes.

Speaking in Mexico City at Cabinet-level talks on boosting economic and commercial ties with one of the United States' top trading partners, Biden reassured Mexican officials that such talk does not reflect the countries' bilateral relations.

"The main message I wanted to say to you is that I understand that you can't poison the well and at the same time work out a real estate agreement to buy the well," he said.

Without naming names Biden was generally critical of Republican candidates, several of whom have proposed measures from walling the entire U.S.-Mexico border to deporting all 11 million people estimated to be living in the United States illegally. GOP front-runner Donald Trump said last year that Mexico was sending crime, drugs and "rapists" north of the border.

"Some of the rhetoric coming from some of the presidential candidates on the other team are I think dangerous, damaging and incredibly ill-advised," Biden said. "But here's what I'm here to tell you: They do not, they do not, they do not represent the view of the vast majority of the American people."

After meeting with Biden later in the day, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto referred to the immigration talk.

"There are those who have the vision to eventually close themselves off, including, I daresay Mr. Vice President, to build walls," Pena Nieto said. "But that is only isolating. This is to be alone. It may look in one way like you're closing passage to a place, but seen another way it is isolation."

Biden addressed the issue again, saying, "I feel almost obliged to apologize for some of what my political colleagues have said about Mexico, about the Mexican people."

Biden was accompanied by U.S. Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker, Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell.

Jewell and her Mexican counterparts signed agreements to cooperate on energy issues, conservation and preparing for the impacts of climate change, the U.S. Interior Department said in a statement. The secretary also commended recent Mexican reforms opening its energy sector to private investment.

"As allies and partners, the economies of the U.S. and Mexico are inextricably linked and a strong energy sector is a key part of that equation," Jewell said.

Trade between the United States and Mexico totaled about $530 billion last year, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

In an interview, Pritzker also said some of the talk emerging from the U.S. presidential campaign is not productive.

Asked about negotiating improved trade amid Trump's calls for a wall between the two countries, Pritzker said: "Any kind of rhetoric like that that is un-American is concerning. What is important is what we're doing is we're building bridges, we're not building walls."

Among goals set for 2016, Pritzker said the two countries plan to establish an energy business council to improve coordination on trade and use a mapping system for supply chains on both sides of the border to help determine where future border infrastructure projects are most needed.

The High-Level Economic Dialogue forum between the United States and Mexico was established by President Barack Obama in 2013. This is the third year officials have met to discuss economic growth, job creation and competiveness.

Also at Thursday's talks was U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Roberta Jacobson, who last June was nominated to become Washington's next ambassador to Mexico.

Her nomination was approved by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in November. But it has been blocked in the full Senate by Sen. Marco Rubio, another Republican presidential candidate, who objects to her role in implementing the Obama administration's policy of normalizing ties with Cuba.

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Biden is what's dangerous. See his deal with Iran.

What's dangerous is allowing countless millions of unvetted and illegal immigrants into the country.

Say all you want, Biden, but I'm looking forward to watching Trump make deals instead of your sorry ass.

Cheers.

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President Obama has made some statements about the (super serious) downside of even the fringe crackpot candidacy of Donald Trump for Potus, never mind Trump as a potential Potus.

A person such as the VP Joe Biden speaking out in this required and necessary way has been long overdue. It's good the VP and several US Government department heads, i.e., cabinet officers have spoken out and that they've done it in Mexico on a routine trade and investment trip.

The Obama whingers will go at it about this too but what else is new. POTUS and the VP with key administration officials needed to speak on the record for Mexico and the world to see, hear and to know. It's the responsible thing to do. Mature adult thing. Diplomacy at work.

Iran has nothing to do with it except to exploit Trump's idiot statements and extremist intemperate candidacy. Just Trump's candidacy itself does a great harm to the United States globally. Tremendous harm. Enormous.

November 8th can't come soon enough when the vast and broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center will repudiate this guy and his rightwhingenut crank supporters once and for all. Finally after all of these nutty years of 'em.

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President Obama has made some statements about the (super serious) downside of even the fringe crackpot candidacy of Donald Trump for Potus, never mind Trump as a potential Potus.

A person such as the VP Joe Biden speaking out in this required and necessary way has been long overdue. It's good the VP and several US Government department heads, i.e., cabinet officers have spoken out and that they've done it in Mexico on a routine trade and investment trip.

The Obama whingers will go at it about this too but what else is new. POTUS and the VP with key administration officials needed to speak on the record for Mexico and the world to see, hear and to know. It's the responsible thing to do. Mature adult thing. Diplomacy at work.

Iran has nothing to do with it except to exploit Trump's idiot statements and extremist intemperate candidacy. Just Trump's candidacy itself does a great harm to the United States globally. Tremendous harm. Enormous.

November 8th can't come soon enough when the vast and broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center will repudiate this guy and his rightwhingenut crank supporters once and for all. Finally after all of these nutty years of 'em.

The problem is when the broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center look in the other direction,. they will see Hillary.

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Talking about building a wall to stop illegal immigration (which also leaves a trail of dead migrants left behind by "coyotes") is bad for relations with Mexico...but the federal gov't selling guns to the Mexican cartels and losing track of 1400 of them isn't?

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The left whingnuts are whinging again. Trump is going to beat Hillary by a landslide and then we won't need to listen to Biden's crap again. All of the blinded prognosticators are failing to consider the record numbers of voters that Trump is drawing to the polls. This will be a wipeout for the Hillary.

Of course the liberal progressive whingers don't truly like a democratic process when the people rise up and say "enough". It's enough.

Trump's campaign statements are more than rhetoric. The US has a large trade deficit with Mexico including from a large number of American jobs that have been and are going there. A good deal of Mexico's GDP comes from benefits from America including money shipped there by illegals who work and send money home.

Mexico can't afford a battle with the US over trade or immigration but the US wouldn't sneeze due to any interruption. Most interruption would be good for the US.

Biden can take his opinions and shove them. He's had long enough as an ingrained Wall Street insider Washington Scum to do his damage. He can go home and retire now.

The People are speaking in a democratic process.

Cheers.

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There is a surprising amount of ignorance regards the reality of balance of trade between US & Mexico. Equally so with the reality that outsourcing keeps US companies competitive with both domestic and exports markets. Just on the facts of US / Mexican trade...

"On balance, it can be said that trade with Mexico and Mexicans is far more beneficial to the United States and millions of Americans than not. Why, then, is anyone taking Trump seriously?"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/247649-no-mr-trump-mexico-is-not-killing-us-on-trade

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President Obama has made some statements about the (super serious) downside of even the fringe crackpot candidacy of Donald Trump for Potus, never mind Trump as a potential Potus.

A person such as the VP Joe Biden speaking out in this required and necessary way has been long overdue. It's good the VP and several US Government department heads, i.e., cabinet officers have spoken out and that they've done it in Mexico on a routine trade and investment trip.

The Obama whingers will go at it about this too but what else is new. POTUS and the VP with key administration officials needed to speak on the record for Mexico and the world to see, hear and to know. It's the responsible thing to do. Mature adult thing. Diplomacy at work.

Iran has nothing to do with it except to exploit Trump's idiot statements and extremist intemperate candidacy. Just Trump's candidacy itself does a great harm to the United States globally. Tremendous harm. Enormous.

November 8th can't come soon enough when the vast and broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center will repudiate this guy and his rightwhingenut crank supporters once and for all. Finally after all of these nutty years of 'em.

The problem is when the broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center look in the other direction,. they will see Hillary.

And the vast and broad American political center in the great majority of the populous states will vote for Hillary Clinton.

No realistic person believes it won't seem close during September and October. However, come election day Tuesday November 8th, the Republican will lose. If it's Trump, the vast number of voters in the states will blow him away. A blowout so the whingenuts will need to have their panic airpump handy.

If it's Rubio he's gonna sweat a lot for nuthin gigglem.gif

Last time the right seized control of the Republican party, in 1964, R Sen Barry Goldwater of Arizona won five states. Trump will win a dozen small Electoral College vote states in the South and the West, plus Texas with big EC votes. However, North Carolina and Missouri and other respectable Red EC vote states are definitely in play. Possibly even Red state Georgia could be in play for the Democratic party in this election.

No Blue state is in play for the Republicans. The R's can forget the "purple" swing states. Florida is Blue this time too, same as in 2012 and 2008.

Wilde dayze indeed but finally the far right will get repudiated at the national polls. Decisively. And for good.

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The left whingnuts are whinging again. Trump is going to beat Hillary by a landslide and then we won't need to listen to Biden's crap again. All of the blinded prognosticators are failing to consider the record numbers of voters that Trump is drawing to the polls. This will be a wipeout for the Hillary.

Of course the liberal progressive whingers don't truly like a democratic process when the people rise up and say "enough". It's enough.

Trump's campaign statements are more than rhetoric. The US has a large trade deficit with Mexico including from a large number of American jobs that have been and are going there. A good deal of Mexico's GDP comes from benefits from America including money shipped there by illegals who work and send money home.

Mexico can't afford a battle with the US over trade or immigration but the US wouldn't sneeze due to any interruption. Most interruption would be good for the US.

Biden can take his opinions and shove them. He's had long enough as an ingrained Wall Street insider Washington Scum to do his damage. He can go home and retire now.

The People are speaking in a democratic process.

Cheers.

Alienate Mexico cut off trade with China build a wall at Canada (the politically late Scott Walker in Wisconsin) throw 11 million people out of the United States, carpet bomb Daesh. All this and more to Make America Grate Again.

These wingenuts are, well, nuts.

Extremist crackpots.

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Check out the video at the link...

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox to Trump: We're "Not Paying For That F***ing Wall"

In an interview Thursday with Jorge Ramos on Fusion, former Mexican president Vicente Fox responds to Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

"I’m not going to pay for that f***ing wall! He should pay for it. He’s got the money," Fox said.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/25/former_mexican_president_vicente_fox_to_trump_im_not_paying_for_that_fing_wall.html

Trump's response is that Fox used a bad word cheesy.gifclap2.gif

It's all a part of Trump's good neighbor policy. facepalm.gif

(Edited by Publicus to restore the exact flavor of the quote, due to programmed editing of the text).

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There is a surprising amount of ignorance regards the reality of balance of trade between US & Mexico. Equally so with the reality that outsourcing keeps US companies competitive with both domestic and exports markets. Just on the facts of US / Mexican trade...

"On balance, it can be said that trade with Mexico and Mexicans is far more beneficial to the United States and millions of Americans than not. Why, then, is anyone taking Trump seriously?"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/247649-no-mr-trump-mexico-is-not-killing-us-on-trade

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These wingenuts are, well, nuts.

Extremist crackpots.

The extremist crackpots have almost ruined this country. That's both parties which look much alike when you study under the hood. They look much alike when you look at their massive campaign contributions from all of the same Wall Street special interests who OWN them.

In just the last 7 years of Obama, the US national debt has doubled. I supposed people are crackpots for throwing out those who did that.

The US has been enriching China and Mexico at the direct expense of US workers. No amount of spin or excuses will make that go away. I suppose people who say they want to bring those jobs home are crackpots.

The US doesn't win much anymore - not wars and not trade deals and not even a lousy deal with Iran. I suppose the people who are tired of losing to China are crackpots. I suppose that people who are tired of starting wars in God forsaken places around the globe are crackpots. Yes, Obama has his own escalations if nothing else.

Lemme tell you again. People are sick of these things and are going to keep coming out and voting for Trump, clear through the general election and in record numbers.

Hillary doesn't stand a chance against this tidal wave of the people. This is an historic movement. This is something that only the blind will fail to see until Trump is inaugurated.

Cheers.

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Biden is what's dangerous. See his deal with Iran.

What's dangerous is allowing countless millions of unvetted and illegal immigrants into the country.

Say all you want, Biden, but I'm looking forward to watching Trump make deals instead of your sorry ass.

Cheers.

I know you're not going to agree on this, but Biden is much more intelligent and immensely more diplomatic that Trump could ever dream to be.

Similarly, I thought it was ugly, last night, and it showed the low-class pettiness of the Republicans by tearing in to Sec. of State John Kerry. What is it about Republicans that they're completely inept at foreign affairs? Everything in their world is love or hate. They're like Jr. High School cheerleaders at a basketball game: they love their home team to death and hate the guys of the opposing team. They are immaturity and small-mindedness personified. Their contender is going to deserve the thorough trouncing he gets in November.

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There is a surprising amount of ignorance regards the reality of balance of trade between US & Mexico. Equally so with the reality that outsourcing keeps US companies competitive with both domestic and exports markets. Just on the facts of US / Mexican trade...

"On balance, it can be said that trade with Mexico and Mexicans is far more beneficial to the United States and millions of Americans than not. Why, then, is anyone taking Trump seriously?"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/247649-no-mr-trump-mexico-is-not-killing-us-on-trade

YouTube link deleted

Did you read the info at the URL I provided? There will be exceptions to the norm for individual companies, but overall nations gain in trade and employment opportunities from outsourcing, global global trade / tariff agreements etc. Resorting to protectionism and reversing the likes of GATT agreements is not the way forward.

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President Obama has made some statements about the (super serious) downside of even the fringe crackpot candidacy of Donald Trump for Potus, never mind Trump as a potential Potus.

A person such as the VP Joe Biden speaking out in this required and necessary way has been long overdue. It's good the VP and several US Government department heads, i.e., cabinet officers have spoken out and that they've done it in Mexico on a routine trade and investment trip.

The Obama whingers will go at it about this too but what else is new. POTUS and the VP with key administration officials needed to speak on the record for Mexico and the world to see, hear and to know. It's the responsible thing to do. Mature adult thing. Diplomacy at work.

Iran has nothing to do with it except to exploit Trump's idiot statements and extremist intemperate candidacy. Just Trump's candidacy itself does a great harm to the United States globally. Tremendous harm. Enormous.

November 8th can't come soon enough when the vast and broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center will repudiate this guy and his rightwhingenut crank supporters once and for all. Finally after all of these nutty years of 'em.

The problem is when the broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center look in the other direction,. they will see Hillary.

And the vast and broad American political center in the great majority of the populous states will vote for Hillary Clinton.

No realistic person believes it won't seem close during September and October. However, come election day Tuesday November 8th, the Republican will lose. If it's Trump, the vast number of voters in the states will blow him away. A blowout so the whingenuts will need to have their panic airpump handy.

If it's Rubio he's gonna sweat a lot for nuthin gigglem.gif

Last time the right seized control of the Republican party, in 1964, R Sen Barry Goldwater of Arizona won five states. Trump will win a dozen small Electoral College vote states in the South and the West, plus Texas with big EC votes. However, North Carolina and Missouri and other respectable Red EC vote states are definitely in play. Possibly even Red state Georgia could be in play for the Democratic party in this election.

No Blue state is in play for the Republicans. The R's can forget the "purple" swing states. Florida is Blue this time too, same as in 2012 and 2008.

Wilde dayze indeed but finally the far right will get repudiated at the national polls. Decisively. And for good.

If Clinton is destined to win as the media has been saying for a few years now, then it's better she gets run through a meat grinder along the way and the other two boys can't do it.

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Biden addressed the issue again, saying, "I feel almost obliged to apologize for some of what my political colleagues have said about Mexico, about the Mexican people."

Here's what one Arizona Sheriff had to say about Biden.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/02/26/az-sheriff-biden-should-apologize-to-those-killed-by-illegals-we-have-billboard-on-border-saying-youre-home-free/

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Biden is apologizing to a mexican government which has a series of presidents apparently intimately involved in helping build the drug cartels.

But despite the risks, journalist and author Anabel Hernandez not only covers the issue, but also levels accusations of narco corruption in the country’s most powerful institution: the presidency. In articles and books, she has alleged links between kingpins such as Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and a series of Mexican presidents, including Vicente Fox, who ruled from 2000 to 2006, and Felipe Calderon, in power from 2006 to 2012. According to Hernandez, these leaders’ war on drugs was a farce in which they used soldiers and police to help out Guzman’s Sinaloa cartel. . . . Hernandez suspects the Sinaloa Cartel is only growing in power under current President Enrique Peña Nieto.
https://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2014/07/meet-journalist-who-says-she-can-prove-mexican-presidents-links-drug-cartels
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President Obama has made some statements about the (super serious) downside of even the fringe crackpot candidacy of Donald Trump for Potus, never mind Trump as a potential Potus.

A person such as the VP Joe Biden speaking out in this required and necessary way has been long overdue. It's good the VP and several US Government department heads, i.e., cabinet officers have spoken out and that they've done it in Mexico on a routine trade and investment trip.

The Obama whingers will go at it about this too but what else is new. POTUS and the VP with key administration officials needed to speak on the record for Mexico and the world to see, hear and to know. It's the responsible thing to do. Mature adult thing. Diplomacy at work.

Iran has nothing to do with it except to exploit Trump's idiot statements and extremist intemperate candidacy. Just Trump's candidacy itself does a great harm to the United States globally. Tremendous harm. Enormous.

November 8th can't come soon enough when the vast and broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center will repudiate this guy and his rightwhingenut crank supporters once and for all. Finally after all of these nutty years of 'em.

The problem is when the broad moderate, middle-thinking and minded US electorate that are the political center look in the other direction,. they will see Hillary.

And the vast and broad American political center in the great majority of the populous states will vote for Hillary Clinton.

No realistic person believes it won't seem close during September and October. However, come election day Tuesday November 8th, the Republican will lose. If it's Trump, the vast number of voters in the states will blow him away. A blowout so the whingenuts will need to have their panic airpump handy.

If it's Rubio he's gonna sweat a lot for nuthin gigglem.gif

Last time the right seized control of the Republican party, in 1964, R Sen Barry Goldwater of Arizona won five states. Trump will win a dozen small Electoral College vote states in the South and the West, plus Texas with big EC votes. However, North Carolina and Missouri and other respectable Red EC vote states are definitely in play. Possibly even Red state Georgia could be in play for the Democratic party in this election.

No Blue state is in play for the Republicans. The R's can forget the "purple" swing states. Florida is Blue this time too, same as in 2012 and 2008.

Wilde dayze indeed but finally the far right will get repudiated at the national polls. Decisively. And for good.

If Clinton is destined to win as the media has been saying for a few years now, then it's better she gets run through a meat grinder along the way and the other two boys can't do it.

That's one of the more insightful posts in all of this insanity. Many many voters feel that way and know they're going to vote for HRC on November 8th and that she'll be 45th Potus.

Yes, very true. That's what all of this is about, from the soup to the nuts of it. From voters to MSM a crucible has been laid down. The right is not participating in the fun and games because it seriously hates her guts and fears her competence and world view, and what she'll do in the office of Potus. The right wants to take her down and mash her face in it.

But not middle centrist moderate America. So many, really, want her to suffer whatever original sins she may have --whatever, even if there aren't any-- then to gain redemption and salvation in her election and presidency. HRC and Bill had finally figured this out, for sure, so lately they're just going with the flow of it all.

So yes, thanks for that.

President Hillary Clinton.

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Biden addressed the issue again, saying, "I feel almost obliged to apologize for some of what my political colleagues have said about Mexico, about the Mexican people."

Here's what one Arizona Sheriff had to say about Biden.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/02/26/az-sheriff-biden-should-apologize-to-those-killed-by-illegals-we-have-billboard-on-border-saying-youre-home-free/

That's very good but I'm afraid people won't read it. Here's what the Sheriff said, in part:

"Babeu said, “Well, the apology tour continues by Barack Obama and Joe Biden. And why don’t they stop right there, and turn to the American people, and apologize to us? Apologize to the thousands of Americans and families who have victims, their own sons and daughters, moms and dads who have been killed by some of these illegals, these criminals?

Never once have they talked to the parents of murdered children here in my state, and yet they would gladly apologize in a second to the leaders of Mexico, to leaders in Europe. And finally, we need leaders like Donald Trump, or whoever the Republican nominee is, that stands up for America, and finally puts american families, our security, our military first for once. And that’s what we haven’t had these past eight years now."

Obama and Biden are traitors and that's just part of why Trump will be the next president.

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I see Biden's concern, turning off the spigot of future Democrat voters would never do now would it?

P.s I'd love a Trump vs HRC contest, it would then boil down o a simple referendum as to whether the American people wish to be lied to or not.

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I see Biden's concern, turning off the spigot of future Democrat voters would never do now would it?

P.s I'd love a Trump vs HRC contest, it would then boil down o a simple referendum as to whether the American people wish to be lied to or not.

I think you'll find that they do like being lied to. And they like lying about being lied to too. Not everyone of course, but more than enough to swing an election.

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Biden is apologizing to a mexican government which has a series of presidents apparently intimately involved in helping build the drug cartels.

But despite the risks, journalist and author Anabel Hernandez not only covers the issue, but also levels accusations of narco corruption in the country’s most powerful institution: the presidency. In articles and books, she has alleged links between kingpins such as Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and a series of Mexican presidents, including Vicente Fox, who ruled from 2000 to 2006, and Felipe Calderon, in power from 2006 to 2012. According to Hernandez, these leaders’ war on drugs was a farce in which they used soldiers and police to help out Guzman’s Sinaloa cartel. . . . Hernandez suspects the Sinaloa Cartel is only growing in power under current President Enrique Peña Nieto.
https://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2014/07/meet-journalist-who-says-she-can-prove-mexican-presidents-links-drug-cartels

It's easy to make enemies. Even babies can do it in the sandbox. One throws sand at the other, the other throws sand back, voila, they're crying and enemies.

The trickier part is how to make friends. That's where America needs sage leaders like Obama, Hillary and Kerry. People who are willing to take the time, and partake in the long discussions - to try to find solutions to problems. In sharp contrast, there are people like the Republican 3, whose foreign policy is to shout one-liner threats and demands across borders. Kinda like the the babies in the sandbox, isn't it? That's why we get dirty little secret wars, like in Nicaragua when we had the Republican's great shepherd Reagan in charge. Or the secret bombing of Cambodia by Nixon and his shadowy buddies. Incidentally, Cambodians are still getting their legs blows off thanks to Kissinger/Nixon clandestinely expanding bomb zones beyond what Congress would allow. Well, I guess that's better than Goldwater's plan (another Republican). While he was campaigning for prez, he said he would nuke N.Vietnam.

Posted

Biden is apologizing to a mexican government which has a series of presidents apparently intimately involved in helping build the drug cartels.

But despite the risks, journalist and author Anabel Hernandez not only covers the issue, but also levels accusations of narco corruption in the country’s most powerful institution: the presidency. In articles and books, she has alleged links between kingpins such as Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and a series of Mexican presidents, including Vicente Fox, who ruled from 2000 to 2006, and Felipe Calderon, in power from 2006 to 2012. According to Hernandez, these leaders’ war on drugs was a farce in which they used soldiers and police to help out Guzman’s Sinaloa cartel. . . . Hernandez suspects the Sinaloa Cartel is only growing in power under current President Enrique Peña Nieto.
https://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2014/07/meet-journalist-who-says-she-can-prove-mexican-presidents-links-drug-cartels

It's easy to make enemies. Even babies can do it in the sandbox. One throws sand at the other, the other throws sand back, voila, they're crying and enemies.

The trickier part is how to make friends. That's where America needs sage leaders like Obama, Hillary and Kerry. People who are willing to take the time, and partake in the long discussions - to try to find solutions to problems. In sharp contrast, there are people like the Republican 3, whose foreign policy is to shout one-liner threats and demands across borders. Kinda like the the babies in the sandbox, isn't it? That's why we get dirty little secret wars, like in Nicaragua when we had the Republican's great shepherd Reagan in charge. Or the secret bombing of Cambodia by Nixon and his shadowy buddies. Incidentally, Cambodians are still getting their legs blows off thanks to Kissinger/Nixon clandestinely expanding bomb zones beyond what Congress would allow. Well, I guess that's better than Goldwater's plan (another Republican). While he was campaigning for prez, he said he would nuke N.Vietnam.

You want to make friends with narcoterrorist allied presidents of Mexico?

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It's easy to make enemies. Even babies can do it in the sandbox. One throws sand at the other, the other throws sand back, voila, they're crying and enemies.

The trickier part is how to make friends. That's where America needs sage leaders like Obama, Hillary and Kerry. People who are willing to take the time, and partake in the long discussions - to try to find solutions to problems. In sharp contrast, there are people like the Republican 3, whose foreign policy is to shout one-liner threats and demands across borders. Kinda like the the babies in the sandbox, isn't it? That's why we get dirty little secret wars, like in Nicaragua when we had the Republican's great shepherd Reagan in charge. Or the secret bombing of Cambodia by Nixon and his shadowy buddies. Incidentally, Cambodians are still getting their legs blows off thanks to Kissinger/Nixon clandestinely expanding bomb zones beyond what Congress would allow. Well, I guess that's better than Goldwater's plan (another Republican). While he was campaigning for prez, he said he would nuke N.Vietnam.

You want to make friends with narcoterrorist allied presidents of Mexico?

Imagine two caves, a mile apart. In one lived a mean apeman. In the other was a meaner apeman. If Apeman1 had a problem with Apeman2, he could get a hornets nest, wrap it gently in banana leaves and toss it into Apeman2's cave at night. Now imagine the same scenario, except this time Apeman1 came over to discuss the problem with Apeman2, to see how they could best resolve the problem.

Republicans are like the Apeman with the hornets nest. Democrats are like the Apeman who is mature enough to engage in discussion.

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I'd love a Trump vs HRC contest, it would then boil down o a simple referendum as to whether the American people wish to be lied to or not.

What's continually amazing to me is that the Trump fanboys have a complete and total disconnect to reality. They say Trump is going to stand up for the little guy. Based on what? His history indicates anything but that. They say he's a true conservative. Just look at this statements about abortion, gun rights, the Reagan tax cuts, etc... They say he's a truth teller. See the link below.

Among South Carolina Republicans who preferred above all else a candidate “who tells it like it is,” 77 percent voted for Donald J. Trump. That is astonishing, given that Donald Trump’s entire life has been an extended exercise in deception.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431755/donald-trumps-huge-lies

If these pathetic fanboys stop slurping on "the Donald" for just one minute and look at the actual facts, they might realize they're being conned.

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I'd love a Trump vs HRC contest, it would then boil down o a simple referendum as to whether the American people wish to be lied to or not.

What's continually amazing to me is that the Trump fanboys have a complete and total disconnect to reality. They say Trump is going to stand up for the little guy. Based on what? His history indicates anything but that. They say he's a true conservative. Just look at this statements about abortion, gun rights, the Reagan tax cuts, etc... They say he's a truth teller. See the link below.

Among South Carolina Republicans who preferred above all else a candidate “who tells it like it is,” 77 percent voted for Donald J. Trump. That is astonishing, given that Donald Trump’s entire life has been an extended exercise in deception.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431755/donald-trumps-huge-lies

If these pathetic fanboys stop slurping on "the Donald" for just one minute and look at the actual facts, they might realize they're being conned.

Biden is not stupid, though his tongue slips often suggest he is. Biden is knowledgeable about diplomacy and foreign policy; for certain. However, Biden's progressive views are more of the same package of deceits that have corrupted the entire American landscape.

There is little reason to believe Trump will represent Americans as they are now indicating they demand to be; Americans hope, Trump promises, but there is little reason to believe it. Why then the viral support? It matters less for analysis whether Trump can deliver then what the American people are stating is absent by their support for Trump. Americans no longer have any hope.

Americans are demanding any action, any effort, even derailment, to stop the US from crashing entirely. That says far more about what the socialist/progressive machine (yes, and Republicans too) have done to America then promises Trump makes.

All politics aside, America is F,.,.d. There are no indices showing a brighter tomorrow. None.

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Who cares about vicente fox....the guy was governor of a state where the sinaloa cartel is based...they were at the height of their power when he reigned so draw your own conclusions. Another crook besmirching mr trump with his tripe.

Is there no other country south of mexico that could manufacture cheap goods for the usa without exporting millions of illegals over in return?

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Biden is apologizing to a mexican government which has a series of presidents apparently intimately involved in helping build the drug cartels.

But despite the risks, journalist and author Anabel Hernandez not only covers the issue, but also levels accusations of narco corruption in the country’s most powerful institution: the presidency. In articles and books, she has alleged links between kingpins such as Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and a series of Mexican presidents, including Vicente Fox, who ruled from 2000 to 2006, and Felipe Calderon, in power from 2006 to 2012. According to Hernandez, these leaders’ war on drugs was a farce in which they used soldiers and police to help out Guzman’s Sinaloa cartel. . . . Hernandez suspects the Sinaloa Cartel is only growing in power under current President Enrique Peña Nieto.
https://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2014/07/meet-journalist-who-says-she-can-prove-mexican-presidents-links-drug-cartels

The trickier part is how to make friends. That's where America needs sage leaders like Obama, Hillary and Kerry. People who are willing to take the time, and partake in the long discussions - to try to find solutions to problems.

Like that horrible deal Obama and Kerry made with Iran?

Like that horrible deal when President Obama “traded” five hardened terrorists imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay for the release of traitor Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl?

Like Obama's decision to take out Qaddafi and leave Libya to the terrorists? That was Obama, you know. The "mature" people talked to him and set him straight, right? What a joke.

Obama's stupid boast "We’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq" only to leave it for ISIS? Those kinds of mature decisions?

Obama running up as much national debt as all other presidents combined for 240 years? That kind of leadership?

Trump will be President in 327 days due to the total lack of leadership in DC.

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I'd love a Trump vs HRC contest, it would then boil down o a simple referendum as to whether the American people wish to be lied to or not.

What's continually amazing to me is that the Trump fanboys have a complete and total disconnect to reality. They say Trump is going to stand up for the little guy. Based on what? His history indicates anything but that. They say he's a true conservative. Just look at this statements about abortion, gun rights, the Reagan tax cuts, etc... They say he's a truth teller. See the link below.

Among South Carolina Republicans who preferred above all else a candidate “who tells it like it is,” 77 percent voted for Donald J. Trump. That is astonishing, given that Donald Trump’s entire life has been an extended exercise in deception.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431755/donald-trumps-huge-lies

If these pathetic fanboys stop slurping on "the Donald" for just one minute and look at the actual facts, they might realize they're being conned.

Biden is not stupid, though his tongue slips often suggest he is. Biden is knowledgeable about diplomacy and foreign policy; for certain. However, Biden's progressive views are more of the same package of deceits that have corrupted the entire American landscape.

There is little reason to believe Trump will represent Americans as they are now indicating they demand to be; Americans hope, Trump promises, but there is little reason to believe it. Why then the viral support? It matters less for analysis whether Trump can deliver then what the American people are stating is absent by their support for Trump. Americans no longer have any hope.

Americans are demanding any action, any effort, even derailment, to stop the US from crashing entirely. That says far more about what the socialist/progressive machine (yes, and Republicans too) have done to America then promises Trump makes.

All politics aside, America is F,.,.d. There are no indices showing a brighter tomorrow. None.

Americans will vote on Tuesday November 8th. The post presumes to speak for Americans yet it speaks only for the right and for Republicans. Before learning to run one has to walk.

The only people presently voting for Trump are Republicans. In some few primary states Independents can choose a party ballot if they want. But 90 percent of the people voting for Trump are Republicans in Republican state party primaries or state caucuses of Republicans in the Republican party. Democrats vote in their own party primaries and caucus.

So the leap in the post to say "Americans" is wild and reckless when one speaks of Trump, votes cast, and what "Americans" want. This is all about Republicans voting. It has only been Republicans voting with a tiny number of Indepentents.

The vast moderate centrist middle of Americans vote for the normal candidate and that happens on Tuesday, November 8th. Until then Trump = Republicans and other rightwhingers. Republicans up for reelection in Blue and swing states will get thrown out of the Senate too this time around.

Of Mr. Trump, Mr. McConnell has said, “We’ll drop him like a hot rock,” according to his colleagues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?_r=0

Institutional Republicans are not in a panic because of Donald Trump the radical rebel who's goind to straghten out the country and everything everyone doesn't like about their life and to screw the masters of the universe. The Establishment Republican Party is in a tizzy because the wild radical con artist Trump is going to lose in a blowout and take the GOP with him.

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