One million and counting: EU migrant deal has little effect on Greece

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One million and counting: EU migrant deal has little effect on Greece



BRUSSELS: -- Greece is bearing the brunt of the migrant crisis. Following the EU-Turkey deal, migrants and refugees attempting to cross the Aegean Sea to Greece now face a multitude of barriers, including patrols by Frontex, NATO and the Greek and Turkish Coast Guards.

The International Organization for Migration (IOM) reports that 144,899 of the 158,361 migrants and refugees reaching Europe since the start of the year have landed in Greece. That represents around 90 percent of the total arrivals since January.

The one millionth migrant entered Greece by sea on Saturday (March 19), according to the IOM.

Stamatis Giannisis, the head of euronews’ Greek bureau, sent us the latest figures from the country on Monday, March 21.

50,000 migrants and refugees are currently residing in Greece
13,000 people seeking shelter in the Idomeni camp on Greece’s northern border
5,500 refugees and migrants are on the eastern Aegean islands
14,000 said to be in the greater Athens area
18,000 scattered around mainland Greece from the capital up to the border with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Last week’s EU-Turkey deal, Stamatis says, appears to have done little to halt the flow of new arrivals.


-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-03-22

[SgtRock]

One million and counting: EU migrant deal has little effect on Greece

Over 1 million arrived in 2015, exact numbers unknown.

Everyone of them has taken to multiple social media sites, inviting family, friends, distant cousins, goats, camels and any other rag-tag that they can think of to join them.

The migrant deal means NOTHING to the migrants. They are coming and no deal is going to stop them. No border is going to stop them. Nothing is going to stop them.

Get used to it.

This is the future of the EU.

[boomerangutang]

Roughly 46,000 years ago, homo sapiens migrated NE up into the European region using similar land routes as today's migrants. Back then, the indigenous residents were Neanderthal.

[Kabula]

Perhaps not for Greece, but lets not forget the immigrants that were forced from their homes, most with nothing, no water, no food, no job, little to no money, no extra clothes, struggling with different religious beliefs and discrimination and no medical care. Not to mention the daily fear for their children and missing family members. They risk their lives daily with little help, only to be stopped at borders and some placed in camps. Over time all will be affected in Greece and other countries in my opinion.

[simple1]

The premise of the OP that the volume of people departing Turkey for Greece should already be reducing is nonsense. The EU - Turkey agreement was only reached four days ago, with a fair amount of fine detail, financing and resources to be put in-place still to be nailed down.

A fairly good article in the FP magazine covering the Agreement, stages and so on , including...

With the March 18 agreement, Ankara agreed that all migrants arriving in Greece from Turkey will be sent back to Turkey. And for every Syrian migrant sent back to Turkey, a Syrian in Turkey will be given asylum in the European Union. The plan, however, caps the number of Syrians who can be sent to Europe from Turkey at 72,000. If that limit is reached, the European Union and Turkey would have to renegotiate.

https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/eu-and-turkey-reach-tenuous-immigration-agreement?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=turkeyimmigrationsend&utm_content=bodylink1&_hsenc=p2ANqtz---tdP6lC0bX8Y3KGRYwO7Bjr8jLkDB5DPTVQCQdmoylEv82NW--aEuTzlJmr6-IvKwYMq-FH4cgMhWfpaiB0HiH9S9EQ&_hsmi=27475521

[billd766]

Perhaps not for Greece, but lets not forget the immigrants that were forced from their homes, most with nothing, no water, no food, no job, little to no money, no extra clothes, struggling with different religious beliefs and discrimination and no medical care. Not to mention the daily fear for their children and missing family members. They risk their lives daily with little help, only to be stopped at borders and some placed in camps. Over time all will be affected in Greece and other countries in my opinion.

From what I understand these people PAID people smugglers to make the trip as it is not free and gratis. This jibes with your words that they escaped with nothing. Their differing religious beliefs have little to do with it.

Most of them appear to be men in their 20s and reasonably fit so why are they not in their country of origin and fighting for their lives and families? If they can afford to pay for the trip I am sure that they can afford to buy weapons to defend. themselves.

Why are they heading for the EU where the food, language,customs etc are all foreign to them and not to the other countries around the Gulf region? With the exception of Turkey and Jordan the rest of those countries are doing nothing to help the fellow Arabs.

[jesimps]

Perhaps not for Greece, but lets not forget the immigrants that were forced from their homes, most with nothing, no water, no food, no job, little to no money, no extra clothes, struggling with different religious beliefs and discrimination and no medical care. Not to mention the daily fear for their children and missing family members. They risk their lives daily with little help, only to be stopped at borders and some placed in camps. Over time all will be affected in Greece and other countries in my opinion.

They're getting a similar welcome to returning expats only with freebies thrown in.

[SgtRock]

The premise of the OP that the volume of people departing Turkey for Greece should already be reducing is nonsense. The EU - Turkey agreement was only reached four days ago, with a fair amount of fine detail, financing and resources to be put in-place still to be nailed down.

A fairly good article in the FP magazine covering the Agreement, stages and so on , including...

With the March 18 agreement, Ankara agreed that all migrants arriving in Greece from Turkey will be sent back to Turkey. And for every Syrian migrant sent back to Turkey, a Syrian in Turkey will be given asylum in the European Union. The plan, however, caps the number of Syrians who can be sent to Europe from Turkey at 72,000. If that limit is reached, the European Union and Turkey would have to renegotiate.

https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/eu-and-turkey-reach-tenuous-immigration-agreement?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=turkeyimmigrationsend&utm_content=bodylink1&_hsenc=p2ANqtz---tdP6lC0bX8Y3KGRYwO7Bjr8jLkDB5DPTVQCQdmoylEv82NW--aEuTzlJmr6-IvKwYMq-FH4cgMhWfpaiB0HiH9S9EQ&_hsmi=27475521

Considering that over 200,000 will have arrived by the end of March, which is considered to be the slow season.

A 72,000 upper cap limit will be reached by the 2nd week in April, which makes this deal as much use as t!ts on a f!sh.

[tonbridgebrit]

The EU has about 500 million people, and basically, accepting another 1 million people who are refugees is no big deal.


Okay, all this talk about Greece and Turkey, yes, a fair number of Syrians are in Turkey, and they are trying to get into Greece. Okay, bearing in mind that Britain is in the EU, well, what does this mean for Britain ?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34171148

From the above BBC article, lets look at some numbers. The article is from September 2015. Okay, Britain has accepted about 5,000 Syrians since 2011, yes, 5,000 !!! It's hardly a big number. Britain plans to accept another 20,000 by the year 2020. Roughly 26,000 people applied for asylum in the UK in the year to the end of June 2015. About 2,200 of them were from Syria.


Basically, to cut a long story short, the impact of the refugees on Europe and Britain has been grossly exaggerated. You want to talk about a load of people from Poland and Romania (those people are from the EU) entering into Britain, fine. But lets not make ourselves look silly and stupid by claiming that Europe or Britain is being flooded by a load of people from outside the EU.


And Britain being in the EU. So, 20,000 Syrians will come into Britain by 2020. If Britain does pull out of the EU, will those 20,000 people be rejected ? And if they are going to be rejected, well, 20,000 less people in a Britain with almost 65 million people makes almost zero differance.

Get real, stop making this into a big deal.

[bassman]

The EU has about 500 million people, and basically, accepting another 1 million people who are refugees is no big deal.

Okay, all this talk about Greece and Turkey, yes, a fair number of Syrians are in Turkey, and they are trying to get into Greece. Okay, bearing in mind that Britain is in the EU, well, what does this mean for Britain ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34171148

From the above BBC article, lets look at some numbers. The article is from September 2015. Okay, Britain has accepted about 5,000 Syrians since 2011, yes, 5,000 !!! It's hardly a big number. Britain plans to accept another 20,000 by the year 2020. Roughly 26,000 people applied for asylum in the UK in the year to the end of June 2015. About 2,200 of them were from Syria.

Basically, to cut a long story short, the impact of the refugees on Europe and Britain has been grossly exaggerated. You want to talk about a load of people from Poland and Romania (those people are from the EU) entering into Britain, fine. But lets not make ourselves look silly and stupid by claiming that Europe or Britain is being flooded by a load of people from outside the EU.

And Britain being in the EU. So, 20,000 Syrians will come into Britain by 2020. If Britain does pull out of the EU, will those 20,000 people be rejected ? And if they are going to be rejected, well, 20,000 less people in a Britain with almost 65 million people makes almost zero differance.

Get real, stop making this into a big deal.

The Poles and Romanians are not coming to Europe bearing gifts of hatred and death. With what is going on now in Brussels I doubt there will much sympathy to increase the numbers of invaders. Buy another box of tissue, sure you will have more crying to come.

[i claudius]

Roughly 46,000 years ago, homo sapiens migrated NE up into the European region using similar land routes as today's migrants. Back then, the indigenous residents were Neanderthal.

So no change there then .

[llz]

Wonderful picture in the opening post. Sure a lot of time was needed to find enough women and children to pose and to wait for the light to allow a wonderful backlight effect.

Perfect composition to manipulate european public opinion.