Lifetime ban to be considered on Mercedes Benz driver in Ayutthaya fatal crash

[Jonmarleesco]

'Upon completion of the operation and when he is able to walk again his family stated that he will be making reparations and compensation to the family of the deceased victims, and will also enter monkhood as a merit making.' Oh, for Christ's sake, spare us the merit making nonsense!

[Lokie]

Disgusting

[mercman24]

re: driving licences.talking to an Isan lady.i say you got scooter,? yes. you wear helmet ? no, you got licence/insurance ,,? no,,not need in Isan so not need here in Bangkok. yep thai logic.

[Moti24]

If gambling was legal in Thailand, we could open a book on the eventual sentence; winner take all! I'd go for community service, loss of driving licence and a 500 Baht fine. Of course, he would have to re-enter Thailand in order to do the community service.

[Nemesis7]

i keep on being amazed in the amazing Thailand

[silent]

"The new Mercedes Benz models have a black box just like planes."

No, they don't. They do have an ECU controlling the cars various functions, that's all, no "black boxes".

Same same but different,

you say potato I say potato.

It is a combination of Hardware and software like a computer with memory, so they can take out the data from last trip. It is not a black box, but it does have the same functionality (logs of incidents)

please see wiki info on ECU

In automotive electronics, Electronic Control Unit (ECU) is a generic term for any embedded system that controls one or more of the electrical system or subsystems in a motor vehicle.

Types of ECU include Electronic/engine Control Module (ECM), Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Transmission Control Module (TCM), Brake Control Module (BCM or EBCM), Central Control Module (CCM), Central Timing Module (CTM), General Electronic Module (GEM), Body Control Module (BCM), Suspension Control Module (SCM), control unit, or control module. Taken together, these systems are sometimes referred to as the car's computer. (Technically there is no single computer but multiple ones.) Sometimes one assembly incorporates several of the individual control modules (PCM is often both engine and transmission)

Some modern motor vehicles have up to 80 ECUs. Embedded software in ECUs continues to increase in line count, complexity, and sophistication. Managing the increasing complexity and number of ECUs in a vehicle has become a key challenge for original equipment manufacturers (OEMs).

Very impressive. Can you tell some of us hillbillies when these ECU's might have been introduced. I'm betting some of us forget.

[Sunderland]

Local justice is equal to injustice. No more to add.

[silent]

"The new Mercedes Benz models have a black box just like planes."

No, they don't. They do have an ECU controlling the cars various functions, that's all, no "black boxes".

Same same but different,

you say potato I say potato.

It is a combination of Hardware and software like a computer with memory, so they can take out the data from last trip. It is not a black box, but it does have the same functionality (logs of incidents)

please see wiki info on ECU

In automotive electronics, Electronic Control Unit (ECU) is a generic term for any embedded system that controls one or more of the electrical system or subsystems in a motor vehicle.

Types of ECU include Electronic/engine Control Module (ECM), Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Transmission Control Module (TCM), Brake Control Module (BCM or EBCM), Central Control Module (CCM), Central Timing Module (CTM), General Electronic Module (GEM), Body Control Module (BCM), Suspension Control Module (SCM), control unit, or control module. Taken together, these systems are sometimes referred to as the car's computer. (Technically there is no single computer but multiple ones.) Sometimes one assembly incorporates several of the individual control modules (PCM is often both engine and transmission)

Some modern motor vehicles have up to 80 ECUs. Embedded software in ECUs continues to increase in line count, complexity, and sophistication. Managing the increasing complexity and number of ECUs in a vehicle has become a key challenge for original equipment manufacturers (OEMs).

Very impressive with the proper use of acronyms.

[Bangkok Barry]

A lifetime driving ban. And that would be policed and enforced how, exactly? Usual hot air.

[dlclark97]

Have to agree with other posters. 10 years MINIMUM in jail, lifetime forfeiture of driving license and an ankle bracelet to verify his location for life. No excuse for this type of driving and I see it every day. Lots of police roadblocks stopping cars for seatbelt and document problems. Also motorbike operators for not wearing helmets and document issues. Never see any local police on the road stopping speeders and those violating other 'Rules of the Road'. Added, would like to see a law requiring all motorized vehicles and cycles to have operating lights front, rear, and side at ALL times, DAY or NIGHT. Many drivers think if they can see they don't need lights. They also help other drivers see you BEFORE IT"S TOO LATE!

[sagittarius6999]

I used to race saloon cars and that car is doing approximately 150 mph and by the look of it does not appear to be braking the speed of the vehicle is not reducing and at such high speed if maximum braking was being used the front end should be dipping down under the braking force. Like someone else said, he was going extremely fast, do not need to know how fast, anyone crashing into the rear of another is automatically guilty and why would he want to be trying to undertake a car that is in inside lane with carriageway to pass on, obviously must be drunk or on drugs. I see there is no mention now in official comments that was given earlier that he knocked a motorcyclist off on this same journey or the guy who was hit by his previous BMW, presume they have been bunged to reduce the mud in the water. Question? Do the Thai authorities read Thai Visa and do we have any effect apart fro getting our frustration off our chests

[tuanku]

Here's an idea...........why not build the worlds first prison monastery so all those criminals who want to atone for their crime can do it while serving their sentence? It could be staffed by all the criminal monks we keep reading about.

[robertson468]

How long does it take to fly out an expert to do the calculations the speed the perp was traveling at, 48 or 72 hours? This is a none issue and a feeble excuse and it does not even need to be a Benz Expert. As for the Transport Department giving their opinion on how long he should not drive for, hello, I thought there needed to be a trial first and that the driving ban would be part and parcel of the sentence? The issue of Monkhood is also a none issue. He can still be charged and the Court can decided if he is/is not guilt of the charges and if he is guilty, deliver a sentence. This should be getting dealt with by the Justice Department and the rest who offer "their" opinion, should be told to get lost.

[TheCruncher]

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This guy should be in prison for life. A complete disregard for other's lives and bribery.

Lifetime ban for driving. They're getting desperate.

Of course accidents of this impact NEVER happen where we come from, and while I have knowledge of several such accidents in the past in Europe, I don'y recall any of them was sentenced to life in prison.

But then the judge also wasn't a keyboard warrior.

[DavisH]

How long does it take to fly out an expert to do the calculations the speed the perp was traveling at, 48 or 72 hours? This is a none issue and a feeble excuse and it does not even need to be a Benz Expert. As for the Transport Department giving their opinion on how long he should not drive for, hello, I thought there needed to be a trial first and that the driving ban would be part and parcel of the sentence? The issue of Monkhood is also a none issue. He can still be charged and the Court can decided if he is/is not guilt of the charges and if he is guilty, deliver a sentence. This should be getting dealt with by the Justice Department and the rest who offer "their" opinion, should be told to get lost.

The latest estimate was that the speed was around 250 km/h, higher than the first estimate of 200 km/h. The occupants didn't stand a chance in such a small car He would be seeing at least a few years in jail in any civilized society.

[Doc46]

When is a lifetime driving ban and a revoked licence stopped anybody from driving a car?? This is the joke of the year,.He should be put in jail for the rest of his natural life (what an Maggot he is)

[ratcatcher]

I can't get my head around that rose royce seat in the background trashed .. Hmm amazing thailand

"...........that rose royce seat........"

Could you be having head trouble with the fact that what seems to be a black Rolls Royce, sitting in the background in a smashed up condition?

Very likely owned by the same calibre of '' wonka" who smashed his Mercedes into the Ford Fiesta recently. More cash than brains.

Let's hope the Spirit of Ecstasy wasn't responsible for anyone's death.

Edited March 24, 2016 by ratcatcher

[Transporter]

I thought the police were demanding proper justice on this case?

10 years minimum in prison and driving ban for the safety of others.

This fool needs time to reflect.

He has killed two innocent people and risked the lives of many others.

Does Thailand have any idea at all how to protect the innocent public from dangerous drivers.

No punishment = No deterrent

Disgraceful and insulting to the family of the victims.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

He will be back on the road next week!

[TheCruncher]

I can't get my head around that rose royce seat in the background trashed .. Hmm amazing thailand

"...........that rose royce seat........"

Could you be having head trouble with the fact that what seems to be a black Rolls Royce, sitting in the background in a smashed up condition?

Very likely owned by the same calibre of '' wonka" who smashed his Mercedes into the Ford Fiesta recently. More cash than brains.

Let's hope the Spirit of Ecstasy wasn't responsible for anyone's death.

Where does everyone see the black Rolls Royce? The black car in the background is the Benz.

[Hawk]

" his family stated that he will be making reparations and compensation to the family of the deceased victims, and will also enter monkhood as a merit making."

What a load of crap! No charges for manslaughter, etc, just a confiscation of his driving licence, and a week living in a local temple.

Then in a few months time he can legally change his name and get another driving licence.

To quote you, "What a load of crap!" indeed.

Investigations are ongoing and charges have been made re the deaths. Nowhere has it been said that only merit-making and the loss of his licence is the punishment.

Crap! You said it!

Investigations are being avoid and no charges have been made!

Only thing happening is the family making lots of monetary offers. (Check out facebook for details)

[ratcatcher]

I can't get my head around that rose royce seat in the background trashed .. Hmm amazing thailand

"...........that rose royce seat........"

Could you be having head trouble with the fact that what seems to be a black Rolls Royce, sitting in the background in a smashed up condition?

Very likely owned by the same calibre of '' wonka" who smashed his Mercedes into the Ford Fiesta recently. More cash than brains.

Let's hope the Spirit of Ecstasy wasn't responsible for anyone's death.

Where does everyone see the black Rolls Royce? The black car in the background is the Benz.

I apologize, you are quite correct,it would indeed seem to be the Benz that bends as you say. The vehicles look as if they are ready for the cruncher crusher.

[Ulic]

His father owns a luxury car import company - and why are the 'experts' from Mercedes reluctant? They don't need any 'experts' from Mercedes, what they need a physicist. Any good physicist can determine the speed of the car simply by timing the distance traveled between highway markers that anyone can go and measure the distance between the markers. Any good physicist can do that. Unfortunately Mercedes doesn't employ physicists in Thailand and would be surprised if they did. Maybe better experts in the crime forensics division.....

Apparently all modern cars have a "black box" chip which records vehicle speed, position

of the steering wheel, brake application etc...etc... on a 20 minute loop. Easy to recover

and check. That was 20 years ago. I am sure it has improved greatly since then. The

manufactures need it for "unexplained acceleration" cases etc...etc...The question is

do the police want the information. It is much easier and more profitable to cover things

up if there is no data. If there were no dash-cam video and social media this would have

been covered up instantly.

[1BADDAT]

I'm still in disbelief that he refused a breathalyser and the cops agreed. These same clowns are to decide his punishment?

It was stated somewhere else I believe that you are allowed to refuse the test. By doing this you are admitting guilt. It's the same way in USA.

Having said that, I don't believe that this will be enforced at all.

[1BADDAT]

His father owns a luxury car import company - and why are the 'experts' from Mercedes reluctant? They don't need any 'experts' from Mercedes, what they need a physicist. Any good physicist can determine the speed of the car simply by timing the distance traveled between highway markers that anyone can go and measure the distance between the markers. Any good physicist can do that. Unfortunately Mercedes doesn't employ physicists in Thailand and would be surprised if they did. Maybe better experts in the crime forensics division.....

Apparently all modern cars have a "black box" chip which records vehicle speed, position

of the steering wheel, brake application etc...etc... on a 20 minute loop. Easy to recover

and check. That was 20 years ago. I am sure it has improved greatly since then. The

manufactures need it for "unexplained acceleration" cases etc...etc...The question is

do the police want the information. It is much easier and more profitable to cover things

up if there is no data. If there were no dash-cam video and social media this would have

been covered up instantly.

i am sure the Mercedes has the information you are mentioning but all modern cars and especially cars 20 years ago do not have that technology. Airbags didn't even become mandatory in the USA until 20 years ago.

[SABloke]

The Bull Sh!t from the 'authorities' is starting to get very deep.

Expect to sell non ending excuses as to why this murderer will not be jailed. Why he will be allowed to walk free, and most likely leave the country.

Amazing Thailand, indeed. Absolutely PATHETIC.

Prayut will do NOTHING, so we, and the world, will see that there will be no reforms in Thailand. Everything is a sham.

They'll probably go with The Jatuporn: Suspended sentence, because the defendant, although fund guilty in court, has never been in jail before

[ratcatcher]

I would have thought a 20 year driving ban would be appropriate while he serves 20 years at H.Ms pleasure.

[glenmohr]

I am pretty sure a few years of pretending to be too sick will solve the problem and avoid a court appearance. After all, this is how cases involving the Amart kids are expected to end up. Really sorry for those two hapless University Students. I wonder if inviting those Hong Kong experts are going to discover a case of sudden unintended acceleration of the vehicle. Perhaps it was caused by a very heavy right foot on the gas pedal?

Everybody knows he was hurrying to the repair shop to get his brakes fixed before he caused another accident, He first discovered his brakes were faulty when his car refused to stop at the toll gate.

[glenmohr]

I'm still in disbelief that he refused a breathalyser and the cops agreed. These same clowns are to decide his punishment?

Suspend your disbelief. The driver in this case is being given no special treatment, that is a basic right that everyone has, no one can be forced to take a breath test or give a blood sample for analysis. The downside of exercising that right is that person is then treated as being drunk when it comes to court.

I don't think you understand Scouse that he actually killed two people in this tragic event. In any other country it would be a crime with quite a harsh penalty. His part in the accident is indelibly shown on the movie made by a another motorist who captured the criminal act.

[sweatalot]

"Upon completion of the operation and when he is able to walk again his family stated that he will be making reparations and compensation to the family of the deceased victims," = buying the law with their pocket money for his advantage

"and will also enter monkhood as a merit making."

= abuse of monkhood

lifetime driving ban should be mandatory as wsell as some years of prison

I remember that garbage worker in Bangkok who was put in prison for selling some DVD that he found in the litter

Where is the comparativeness with someone who killed innocent people (and then want to pay their freedom with a small amount of money compared to their fortune)